Spring has sprung

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Warmth may be returning in a big way if these two idiots don’t settle down

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But life goes on

 

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Footy Finals are here. Good luck to all involved. ( Go The Cowboys )

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I can’t wait till this waste of time is over

 

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And Just to remind you all

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According to the big retailers.

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Chin up folks. Things can only get better

1,096 thoughts on “Spring has sprung

  1. Not just Old White Males, bloody well-off ones too!

    From an article by Bernard Keane on Crikey, discussing the social class of the main political campaigners for Vote No to SSM.

    Keane points out that while these campaigners like to portray themselves as standing up for the common folk whom they represent, against those who want force people to marry their toasters, they actually come from very exclusive backgrounds. They access resources only a few Australians have the privilege of doing so.

    I think the breakdown of their backgrounds needs to be shared more widely but the Crikey article is for subscribers only. We are not only fighting ignorance and bigotry, IMO, but also people who took advantage of exclusive resources and use it to maintain their rank, and to keep the peasants in their place,

    I have no problem with people taking advantage of what is available to them, as long as the benefit of those resources supports the community and underprivileged (i.e. the poor) people. But maybe I am an idealist,

    Keane[s theory fails a little because Howard did not come from a privileged background; he married into it and spent his life trying to validate his existence in that group. There are elites in the Yes campaign and women in the NO camp. But his assertion that the leaders of the No camp are privildged elite white males does hold water.

    They’re not merely elites in the obvious sense that they are mostly old white males, the most privileged section of Western society. They are, literally, part of a sub-section of Australian society that virtually none of us will ever have access to.

    Tony Abbott: salary, $200,000 a year, with expectations of a multimillion-dollar superannuation when he leaves politics; educated at Riverview, St John’s College at the University of Sydney and Oxford. A political staffer and politician since the early 1990s.

    Barnaby Joyce: Joyce, too, was educated at the exclusive Riverview, has been a politician since 2004 and enjoys a $400,000-a-year salary.

    John Howard: long-serving former PM, now enjoying retirement on a massive parliamentary superannuation.

    Lyle Shelton: former Queensland Nationals politician, now professional Canberra lobbyist, often to be found lunching at the National Press Club, heads the taxpayer-subsidised Australian Christian lobby.

    Mark Latham: a political staffer in the 1980s, local councillor and then politician including former party leader, author of tomes such as Civilising Global Capital, since 2004 living off taxpayer largesse via parliamentary superannuation, columnist and commentator for News Corp and other outlets (including, at various times, Crikey);

    Paul Kelly: News Corp eminence grise, “editor at large” for The Australian with a platform on Sky News, serial author.

    Eric Abetz: multi-decade Senator, former Senate government leader and Howard/Abbott government minister, one-time student politician.

    Cory Bernardi: educated at Adelaide Establishment school Prince Alfred, former elite rower, now into his second decade as a politician.

    Kevin Andrews: a former barrister and associate for Sir James Gobbo, educated at Newman College, University of Melbourne, MP since 1991.

    Top-flight private schools, sandstone universities and colleges, long careers inside the Canberra bubble funded by taxpayers, high-profile media platforms on which to opine about public affairs, wealth, privilege and opportunity that few Australians will ever enjoy:

    https://www.crikey.com.au/2017/10/02/advocates-in-the-no-camp-are-chattering-class-elitists/

  2. It’s about time Labor stopped bleating about resettling refugees in other countries and instead joined the calls to Bring them Here. I know, I know, it might cost votes, or that’s the excuse. Let’s remember that one of the reasons for Howrd’s defeat in 2007 was many people were fed up with Howard’s Pacific Solution and welcomed Rudd’s more humane ideas on refugees and asylum seekers.

    Too many Labor voters are disgusted by Labor’s continuing support for government refugee policies and that WILL cost votes.

    Another tragic suicide as Manus claims another victim

    A Tamil refugee was found hanging next to the Lorengau hospital kitchen in the early hours of this morning (Monday, 2 October). His death is the second suicide on Manus in less than two months.

    The 32-year-old Tamil man had been sent to the hospital three days ago, after a self-harming incident at the East Lorengau Transit Accommodation centre.

    Like Hamed, and others on Manus, the refugee had been mentally distressed for some time. But there are no facilities on Lorengau to provide proper assistance for mentally distressed people.
    “He was sent to the hospital but there is no treatment and they neglected him,” one refugee told the Refugee Action Coalition

    http://www.refugeeaction.org.au/?p=6201

  3. Young people must be too intelligent to see through Hanson.

    Mavbe she has been spooked by the surge in younger people enrolling for the postal survey.

  4. Might have been Sunday night when I saw an ad that was very positive about the NBN.. I wondered whose it was. Who was telling us how well things are going with the roll-out, and how happy people are, and how great it is for the whole country? Yep, it was a Federal Government ad. My reaction was loud enough to startle my two cats into leaping from lap to floor.

    Maybe the ad has been around for a while, but I did wonder if it was a response to the release of the Joint Standing Committee’s less than complimentary report on the NBN late last Friday.

  5. gigilene
    They just want them to die out of our sight and out of mind.The drowning concerns? A fig leaf enthusiastically taken up by the anti “reffo” racists. I first heard such from some anti reffo LNP back benchers , soon after Shout Back radio embraced such concerns. Sounds so much “nicer” when you say “won’t someone think of the poor drowned children” rather than your usual railing against the AS being Muslims,criminals,disease carriers,terrorists, non whities.

    • Labor started that line after the Christmas Island tragedy, then the right-wing nutters picked it up.

      Labor, to the party’s great shame, still trots it out as an excuse for mandatory off-shore detention.

    • That line is also used in Europe. That’s why Macron and others want camps in Lybia and elsewhere to stop migrants crossing the Med.

  6. Massive incident in Las Vegas. Gunman shooting at concertgoers from a balcony at the Mandalay Bay Hotel, 32nd floor. Ongoing.

  7. leonetwo
    It was out and about before the Xmas Island drownings. Both among some LNP pollies and in the “talk back radio” demographic. But yes, to Labor’s great shame they picked it up and helped make it “mainstream” . Bustards.

  8. As much as I want the refugees to be brought here from Manus and Nauru, I also do not want the ALP to say one word different to the Coalition policy. We lived through the evisceration of the ALP campaign through ‘Stop the Boats’ by Abb0tt.

    The same thing would happen again. The ALP cannot do anything in Opposition and if they do or say anything that allows Labor to be wedged by this issue, they will not, and I repeat, will not win the next election. Then they cannot help anyone, especially refugees.

    It is completely fucked, but that is the Australia we live in.

    A Royal Commission into the government’s handling of asylum seekers, going back to PM John Howard is one of the first things, after bringing the refugees to Australia, a Labor government should set in motion.

    It is time we were told the truth, and face up to what has been done in our name.

    • I have to disagree.

      As long as Labor keeps on being ‘in lockstep’ (their words) with the Coalition on refugee/detention policy the bigots and haters on both sides will keep on supporting those policies.

      What is needed is massive public education on the issue. The Coalition will never do this but Labor can. It worked for Rudd, it can work again.

      Just waving it away by saying’ electoral poison’ is giving in to the bigots and haters. I think the majority of Australians are better than that, if they are made aware of the facts, not simply fed garbage about ‘saving lives at sea’ and similar lies.

      You look at the huge response to keeping asylum seekers and refugees here once they have been brought to the mainland for medical treatment and you get a bit of hope. You look at the strength of the ‘Bring them here’ campaign and you see more hope. Australians of good heart (and I believe that is a majority) regardless of their political affiliations do not want atrocities carried out in their names. It’s obvious Dutton is out of control and is delighting in thinking of new ways to torture refugees who have already been found genuine. His disgusting comments about the 50+ genuine refugees flown to the US sickened many people, and not just Labor voters. The international community and the UN see Australia as callous and hateful because of our treatment of refugees and asylum seekers. That’s not a good thing

      Just remember, Australia’s willing and enthusiastic involvement in US-initiated conflicts has caused the refugee problem we have to deal with. This country has a responsibility and a duty to care for the people our war-mongering made into refugees in the first place. The least we can do is care for those people, but instead we turn them into pariahs.

      You can say what you like about ‘electoral poison’ but that is the weakest possible excuse for Labor supporting this abysmal government I know Labor’s record is not good. Labor, under Keating, introduced remote detention. Read this and weep –
      http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/BN/2012-2013/Detention

      Labor under Julia Gillard, spooked by Abbott’s constant harping and too scared to stand up to him, reinstated Howard’s Pacific Solution and Labor then took that dreadful policy to new levels. I never supported any of that, and I’m not about to start supporting this government’s revolting policies simply because trying to be better is ‘electoral poisin’. It wasn’t electoral poison in 2007. It doesn’t have to be now. All we need is a Labor leader with courage instead of a milksop who agrees with the government on every nasty action, and who, to make things worse, seems willing to involve us in more wars that will only add to the flood of refugees around the world. Can Shorten find the strength to change Labor policy ? I really doubt that.

    • 100% wrong, Puffy. Nobody wants boats back but they aren‘t coming back—boat turnbacks has seen to that. OTOH people don’t want the last of the ASs tortured indefinitely.

      A policy to keep boat turnbacks but bring the rest of the ASs here will be immensely popular.

      ASs now fly in on dodgy 457 type visas and overstay.

      Labor can do the right thing, the moral thing and look good doing it.

      I base this on numerous polls I have seen (Essential mainly.) Nobody wants BOATS! Most want humane treatment. Bring them here!

  9. Respect4 Spirit Walk (@PuffyTMD)

    It was all over when Kimbo rolled over for Howard. It was the time to stand firm but once the levee broke it was no holding back the flood.

    • I disagree – again – Rudd, to his credit (and I don’t like giving that man any credit at all) proposed more humane treatment of those seeking refuge and implemented it when he was elected in 2007. Julia Gillard wound it back, then Rudd Redux, to his eternal shame, made it even worse simply because he thought it would get him re-elected. It didn’t. The Abbott and then the Coalition governments just carried on making things even more draconian. Never forget the appalling ‘no-one who comes by boat will lever be settled in Australia’ thing was Labor policy first. Those who arrive by plane and seek asylum though, are allowed to stay. Try and work that out, I can’t.

      i can never forget, forgive or excuse Labor’s weakness in this.

  10. From the Facebook page for Refugee Action Coalition Sydney RAC

    The Tamil refugee who suicided on Manus was sent to hospital three days ago in severe mental health distress. Why didn’t he get proper treatment? These are the “hospital” facilities on Manus Island for those in the Lorengau Transit Accommodation near the main town

    https://www.facebook.com/RACsydney/

    A comment –

    Unfortunately yes it is like this and the emergency dept is worse…..I can’t describe how bad that is. One open large room all treated there in sight of each other by a nurse and if you are sick..(vomiting) too bad no bowls etc just on the floor

  11. Another thing to remember about Labor’s position is the dirty little secret about how d’accord slabs of Labor have been re boo his non whites over the decades. After all White Australia was to keep out the cheap non white labour as much as anything. Not only but also I can assure you that having spent a number of years on construction sites and a couple of other blue collar jobs the stuff Howard and Talk Back radio spewed out reflected exactly the attitudes I saw and heard at work. A special BOO HISS from me to the UK tradies so common on site ,Maggies Refugees, for being particularly anti “immigrant”.

    It was very depressing listening to much of Howard’s crap as I knew how well it would go down in Labor heartland. 😦

    • I keep saying this – we need massive public education but we don;t get that. Instead we get both major parties spreading the hate and the lies.

      it isn’t impossible to change public opinion. It’s taken decades, but most Australians are now supportive of marriage equality and of anyone who is not 100% heterosexual. It took a long time to get to this point, but it has happened. It’s not impossible for Australians to understand we have been seriously mislead on asylum seekers and our treatment of refugees. It will take politicians with courage though, and there don’t seem to be many of them..

      Let’s hope it doesn’t take decades to bring Australians to their senses. Waving it all away as simply vote losing isn’t going to help.

    • I do not want to be in Opposition for decades waiting for the public to change its attitudes. All the while the Coalition will have its hands on the levers of power and can keep telling lies about Asylum Seekers. And the right wing MSM keeps up its disinformation campaign. In power the ALP can lay bare the truth of our cruel actions, shove it right in the face of the Australian people, saying ‘You did this.’

      Hence the need for a Royal Commission and revealing the truth about the myth of boat turnbacks, and the terrible camps.

      Of course, building sites etc were racist, they feared the cheap labour. They feared the equivalent of the 457 viSA farce that we have now. Australia was always casually racist. It is something we still have to work at changing, although much improvement has been made. (by ALP governments).

      If the ALP had refused to fight for election until marriage equality was achieved, we would never have had an ALP government until now. How much of the change in attitude to ME came about because Labor has been in power at various periods and drove social change?

      I do not like it, but I understand it. To be on the Opposition benches is to be powerless.

    • kaffee
      I will never forget those stupid timber workers in Tasmania applauding Howard. It sickened me how stupid and ungrateful that bastards were. Bloody traitors!

      Socially conservative, wife at home doing the books, proudly ignorant and having every right to pass judgment on other groups. Yep, plenty of those in the trades.

  12. On the 22nd of October Japan will go to the polls. Shinzo Abe has basically called this poll to sure up his position in the governing Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) and to take advantage of the rise in his approval rating that has occurred as a result of North Korea’s missile tests.

    Abe’s main challenge is not from the centre or the left but from the right in the form of Tokyo Governor Yuriko Koike’s Party of Hope. Another development is that the main opposition Democratic party has effectively disbanded itself and sought to join Koike’s party, however she has blocked more left leaning members of the DP from joining, these left leaning have formed their own party the Constitutional Democracy Party.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/10/02/national/politics-diplomacy/former-dp-heavyweight-yukio-edano-seeks-fill-void-new-liberal-minded-party/#.WdIdBRNL-LI

  13. I think Australians are better than that

    That is where we differ,

    I don’t.

    Evidence? Howard and Abbott. And Dutton. They were not voted in by dandelions.

    And no education campaigns while in Opposition is going to change that, and how is the ALP supposed to pay for it anyway.

    You do not need to convince me of how evil those camps are, and the horrors we as Australians support. I just have the firm belief that the ALP has to choose between being in government where it can change things or be in permanent opposition uselessly pushing for changes to our refugee policy.

    It was the lesson I learned from the Gillard/Abbott years, and it is not the inherent goodness of Australian voters.

    • The ALP learned that lesson as well. The Australian voters heavily punish any political party which is perceived to be ‘soft’ on Asylum Seekers.

      Once the SLP is in power there is scope to do something about these appalling ideas. Then they can run the education campaigns, change the policies and move the refugees off Manus and Nauru.

      We just have to hope things do not go up in another country in our area, like Sri Lanka for Rudd/Gillard, that sends flotillas of boats to our shores just as we are trying to reverse years of dreadful refugee policies.

      IMO, Australians are miserable racist selfish bigots when it comes to refugees. Any party who does not recognise this and work within those parameters will never form gov’t. e.g. The Greens.

  14. Respect4 Spirit Walk (@PuffyTMD)

    My “evidence” started at the first Australian airport I landed at , Brisvegas. Part of a rugby tour I was asked by a customs chappie if we had any Maori on tour. Yes said I , we have about 6 in the squad. To which he said “Oh I guess that is what the trailer is for”. What he said completely Que? for me. Until getting to the bar for some cleansing ales as we waited for everyone to get through customs. Outside was our tour bus and behind the bus was a trailer ! ‘Twas the first time my blood boiled over racism and has forever coloured my view of Australia.

    Spending time up the Pilbara and mid west W.A. has only reinforced those views. Not that what i found in Perth was much better.

    • It is not only Australians but Europeans in general; while they were subjected to name calling in the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s, it didn’t do much to change their prejudices against Koori, African, Asian,Indian or Arab. I see it and hear it every day. including whispers in both major political parties, e.g. the Palestinian situation.

  15. I have a bit of faith in people. I do not believe Australians are all miserable, racist, selfish bigots. Some are, some will never change. Others can and do change. I’ve seen it happen.

    Maybe I’m too optimistic. I’d prefer to be optimistic than just dismiss everything as hopeless and say all Australians are bastards.

  16. Foiling US Plans to Steal Syria’s Oil

    Yet this was the “news from Syria” according to Australia’s government broadcaster the ABC, and broadcast four days after the Idlib attack:

    SABRA LANE: “In Syria the race to control the oil-rich east of the country is gathering pace, and the risk of conflict between Russia and the US along with it.

    The eastern province of Deir al Zour is the largest remaining stronghold of the Islamic State group and US backed militias are in competition with the Syrian government to lay claim to the turf. It’s a competition which has brought them within just a few kilometres of each other.”

    This “TURF” is actually part of Syria, and can’t be “claimed” or “controlled” by anyone other than Syria’s legitimately elected representatives, the Syrian government. Nor can the oil beneath the desert “turf” be removed and sold without the cooperation and approval of the Syrian people to whom it belongs. Such a detail should hardly need explaining.

    But expanding on the “may the best force win” theme, the ABC’s Middle East “correspondent” Matt Brown continued:

    “In that section near the Iraqi border still held by IS, there’s plenty of Oil, making it a valuable prize for whoever gets there first, and the commander of the SDF in Deir al Zour province, Ahmed Abu Ghawla, has told the ABC he intends to do just that with the help of US airpower”-

    (Abu Ghawla, in Arabic) – “We have an agreement with the international coalition to liberate territories from the Terrorists” he says, – “If any force bombs our SDF positions the agreement is that the Coalition will defend us – they’ll retaliate with air-power, and we’ll fight back on the ground.”

    Brown’s presentation of the “Deir al Zour Military Council” and its Sunni Arab commander would have sounded fair enough to the ordinarily ignorant ABC listener, who would assume the “Syrian Democratic Forces” are a legitimate force who deserve a reward for driving IS out of their country. Yet the title is an anachronism; not only is the SDF almost entirely Kurdish, but it has now moved into territories where Kurds were a minority.

    http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/foiling-us-plans-steal-syrias-oil/ri21100

  17. Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    What can one say about this? There will be plenty of prayers from legislators but zero action on gun controls. Trump’s statement finished up with lots of references to God.
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/las-vegas-shooting-reports-of-active-shooter-at-mandalay-bay-casino-20171002-gysvbi.html
    What we know about it so far.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/02/las-vegas-shooting-what-we-know-so-far
    A criminologist gives us six things to know about mass shootings in America.
    https://theconversation.com/six-things-to-know-about-mass-shootings-in-america-48934
    In Nevada, like in most states, it’s legal to openly carry long guns, like rifles and shotguns. No permit is required for this sort of display. That means people are allowed to walk down the Las Vegas Strip with a military-style rifle slung over their shoulder. Inexplicable!
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2017/10/02/its-completely-legal-to-walk-around-las-vegas-with-a-machine-gun_a_23230163/?utm_hp_ref=au-homepage
    Paul Bongiorno writes that the looming state election in Queensland is being nervously watched by the major parties in Canberra. Their apprehension was worsened by a weekend poll suggesting Pauline Hanson’s One Nation is running at 18 per cent.
    http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2017/10/02/pauline-hanson-spooking-major-parties/
    Adam Gartell examines the results of recent polling over SSM survey voting intentions and the news is not good for the NO mob.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/three-quarters-of-voters-have-participated-in-marriage-survey-poll-20171002-gysrmp.html
    Coalition MPs are threatening to turn religious freedoms into an election issue by warning Australians that a vote for Bill Shorten would see more people trapped in an “intellectual and moral straitjacket” if same-sex marriage is legalised. The creepy Andrew Hastie is in the thick of it. Google.
    /national-affairs/coalition-warns-labor-will-restrict-freedoms/news-story/a62118350615dab34913528931c4e0b5
    Abbott’s aggressive campaigning against marriage equality has claimed a valuable friendship – that of transgender advocate Cate McGregor.
    http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/cate-mcgregor-ends-friendship-with-tony-abbott-over-selfish-and-expedient-campaigning-20171002-gysmqk.html
    Children need to be raised in an environment where they are ¬surrounded by happy, loving ¬relationships, and it does not ¬matter whether their parents are of the same sex or heterosexual, says the nation’s most senior ¬family law judge. Google.
    /news/nation/ssm-family-court-chief-justice-diana-bryants-plea-for-kids/news-story/b76fff682d5f998ddb958ce928c8f97d
    Will Shinzo Abe’s snap election call backfire on him as a populist opposition leader gains momentum?
    https://theconversation.com/shinzo-abe-gambles-on-sending-japan-to-a-snap-election-but-it-may-yet-backfire-84966

  18. Section 2 . . .

    Former senior public servant Paddy Gourley looks at the mess Barnaby Joyce has made of the shift of the APVMA to Armidale and the secrecy that now surrounds it. A good forensic analysis.
    http://www.smh.com.au/national/public-service/secrecy-now-shrouds-the-public-services-decentralisation-mess-20170928-gyqkoi.html
    Nick Miller looks at the inept actions of the Spanish government and declares that out of this a new country will be born.
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/catalonia-referendum-new-countries-have-been-born-of-moments-like-this-20171001-gysfro.html
    Sydney house prices have declined for the first time in 17 months, the latest CoreLogic data reveals.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/property/sydney-property-prices-slide-for-first-time-in-17-months-20171001-gysh6l.html
    On this Elizabeth Knight wonders if Sydney house sellers have left their run too late.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/property/sydney-house-prices-finally-start-to-slip–have-sellers-left-their-run-too-late-20171002-gyspxw.html
    Michael west writes “There is no peak body in the country which conducts its business as belligerently, and its proponents would say as successfully, as the Minerals Council of Australia (MCA). Flush with funding thanks to the contributions of its multinational mining company members such as BHP, Rio and Swiss-owned coal giant Glencore, the miners’ peak body can raise a campaign war chest at a moment’s notice. And it is uncompromising, often venomous, in its rhetoric.”
    https://www.michaelwest.com.au/the-minerals-council-coal-and-the-half-a-billion-spent-by-the-resources-lobby/
    Professor Richard Mulgan examines whistleblower laws and protections and concludes that they come up short.
    http://www.smh.com.au/national/public-service/pushing-the-limits-of-whistleblowing-laws-20170927-gyps6k.html
    Norm Abjorensen says that inequality is growing and wonders if it can really be reversed.
    http://www.smh.com.au/national/public-service/income-inequality-is-growing-can-it-really-be-reversed-20171001-gys6x3.html
    Superannuation chief Stephen Anthony says that Australia’s banks are failing to meet their public obligations to drive growth and raise community welfare. He infers that Australian banks would rather earn a fast buck than support real, longer-term investments and jobs that better all Australians.
    http://www.smh.com.au/national/public-service/australias-banks-have-lost-their-way-we-need-to-rethink-how-to-regulate-them-20171002-gysmdn.html
    Hugh Hefner, gone to his reward at the age of 91, was a pornographer and chauvinist who got rich on masturbation, consumerism and the exploitation of women, aged into a leering grotesque in a captain’s hat, and died a pack rat in a decaying manse where porn blared during his pathetic orgies. Some obituary!
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/so-long-hugh-hefner-you-lecherous-lowbrow-peter-pan-20171002-gysl4b.html

  19. Section 3 . . .

    India’s former environment minister says he’s appalled by Australia’s decision to approve Adani’s massive new coal mine in Queensland, and the company’s record in environmental management in India “leaves a lot to be desired”.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/former-indian-environment-minister-says-adanis-track-record-leaves-a-lot-to-be-desired-20171002-gysky0.html
    A new payments systems is “on track” to be able to deliver real time bank transfers and the ability to ditch BSB numbers from Australia Day. While most people take a break over summer, banks will be putting the finishing touches on the biggest overhaul in the payments system in years. One to watch.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/realtime-payments-to-be-launched-after-australia-day-20171002-gysjby.html
    Streets is moving to install 90 surveillance cameras across its Sydney plant to monitor employee performance, provoking angry workers to claim “this is how an ice cream factory would operate if it was run by North Korea”. What is this crowd up to? Google.
    /business/companies/streets-surveillance-of-ice-cream-workers-likened-to-north-korea/news-story/ab8f1018020decd045443120ddd9cc62
    The only government MP not to put his name to a dissenting report rejecting a federal parliamentary paper criticising the NBN has said he believes some of the complaints about its rollout have merit.
    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/oct/02/nationals-mp-andrew-broad-bemoans-rollout-of-faceless-nbn
    Adani’s ambitions face a grave new risk in Australia, where its grip on its only operating asset, a Queensland coal port, is threatened by a crash in income unless its contentious Carmichael mine becomes a reality, a new report says.
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/oct/03/adani-needs-carmichael-mine-to-stave-off-income-crash-report-says
    Is the CBA suffering from a talent flight?
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/cbd/talent-withdrawal-the-new-problem-plaguing-catherine-livingstones-commonwealth-bank-20171001-gysgpj.html
    Energy costs may soon shrink if a bill before the Senate allows the abolition of transmission and networks’ right to appeal decisions relating to their operational costs.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/energy/power-cut-to-energy-networks-may-lead-to-lower-bills-20171002-gysmy8.html
    Small Business Ombudsman Kate Carnell has floated the idea of a taxpayer-backed bank to support lending to small businesses, saying the current system is starving firms of reasonably-priced finance.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/kate-carnell-flags-governmentbacked-business-bank-20171002-gysqhq.html
    The UK’s biggest peacetime repatriation is under way after the collapse of Monarch Airlines, with 110,000 customers to be brought home on specially chartered planes and a further 750,000 told that their bookings have been cancelled. Bloody hell!
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/02/monarch-airlines-flights-cancelled-as-airline-goes-into-administration

  20. Section 4 . . . Cartoon Corner

    David Rowe brilliantly sums up the US after the latest mass shooting.

    David Pope justifiably goes after Potatohead.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0
    Cathy Wilcox goes to Catalonia.

    Ron Tandberg with an angry and desperate Abbott.

    Mark David unveils the new superministry.

    Two more from Mark David.


    Peter Breolman rubs it in yet again.

    Trump gets some advice from his generals. Paul Zanetti,

    No, there’s nothing exceptional about America and its gun laws is there?

    Matt Gilding and Liplomacy.

    Mark Knight sees an outbreak of Dustymania in Melbourne.

    Pat Clement goes upstairs to see how the SSM debate is going.
    http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/de8139b647873fb838ba18bf9a7a22e8

  21. puffy

    I don’t wish to be disrespectful but this line:

    “I do not want to be in Opposition for decades”

    sounds very much like this other line: “we don’t want people drowning.”

    • I learned my lesson when Abbott was voted in. I have no faith in Australian voters. The only way for the Alp to help asylum seekers is to win gov’t and to do the ALP has to not let a sliver of difference shine between them and the coalition. It needs to be a non-issue because it does not take much to get the Aussie voting public to vote against brown people, especially brown people who have anything to do with the sea and boats.

      It is cynical, horrible and an indictment of our society, but that is my analysis of it. I reckon itis the ALP analysis too.

  22. BB – “David Rowe brilliantly sums up the US after the latest mass shooting.”

    That’s Spain devouring Catalonia. (I had to google the flag.)

  23. But guitarist Caleb Keeter went further, describing the ordeal as a revelation.

    “I’ve been a proponent of the [second] amendment my entire life,” he posted on Twitter. “Until the events of last night. I cannot express how wrong I was.”

    Keeter said that members of the band’s crew have concealed handgun licenses, and legal firearms on the bus.

    “They were useless. We couldn’t touch them for fear police might think that we were part of the massacre and shoot us. A small group (or one man) laid waste to a city with dedicated, fearless police officers desperately trying to help, because of access to an insane amount of firepower. Enough is enough.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2017/oct/02/las-vegas-two-dead-in-mandalay-bay-casino-shooting-latest-updates

  24. John Oliver took aim at Donald Trump’s angry response to problems over hurricane relief in Puerto Rico, calling him “horribly racist”.

    During his HBO show Last Week Tonight, the comic played footage of Trump happy with what he saw as a successful first response. “How are you even trying to take a victory lap right now?” Oliver asked.

  25. Barca playing in an empty stadium

    https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/3dcf9f7f9e6b41e8692b680abe44c09dd8e6d9c5/4_304_5748_3450/master/5748.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=b4f71ef578c66f6e69cb6b66d3be5b36

    Then, 24 minutes before kick-off, it was finally official: Barcelona would play Las Palmas, but behind closed doors.

    By late evening, the Catalan government announced that 2,262,422 votes had been cast; 2,020,144 of them voting Yes to independence.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/oct/02/barcelona-in-strange-and-symbolic-eye-of-a-storm-over-catalonia

  26. David Rowe, on Twitter, acknowledged today’s cartoon was ‘after Goya’. The inspiration was one of a group of fourteen paintings known as the “Black Paintings”. I never liked much of Goya’s work. I had to study it when I was at high school, part of my art course. A lot of his work gave me the creeps.

    The painting is “Saturn Devouring His Son”. It’s grim, nightmare stuff.I won’t post an image, you can look it up.

  27. I’m sure he’ll give them a jolly good finger-wagging

    The Prime Minister’s efforts to guarantee domestic gas supplies don’t address the “elephant in the room” of high power prices, a Federal Government MP has said.

    Malcolm Turnbull will meet gas exporters again today, to refine the details of their commitment to meet the expected domestic shortfall over the next two years.

    But the Nationals MP for the seat of Mallee, Andrew Broad, said that agreement doesn’t go far enough.

    “The Prime Minister has been very proactive in this space and he’s to be commended, what he’s trying to do is shore up supply, but it doesn’t appear that there’s a lot on price,” Mr Broad told the ABC’s AM program.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-03/malcolm-turnbull-deal-with-gas-exporters-fails-to-address-price/9009578

  28. Andrew Broad seems to bef ed up with Turnbull. In the last 24 hours Mr Broad has spoken up about the NBN roll-out, said the GST should not be used to bribe the states into CSG exploration and now he’s refusing to follow the government line on gas exports.

    Good on him for all that, it’s not often a National MP breaks ranks.

    Is Broad thinking about turning independent?

    • Red fell over in the street and hit his head a couple of months ago. He allegedly suffered a serious brain injury, but no-one can tell the difference, he’s just as awful as he was before.

  29. But but our ex-pm found it!

    Australian investigators have delivered their final report on the disappearance of Malaysia airlines flight MH370, saying the inability to bring closure for victims’ families was a “great tragedy” and “almost inconceivable” in the modern age.

    It has now been three-and-a-half years since MH370 and its 239 passengers and crew were lost during a journey between Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/03/mh370s-location-an-almost-inconceivable-mystery-final-report

    • Makes me wonder just who benefits from the information gained by such extensive sweeps of the sea bed in that area … and how many exploration licences will be issued in the next few months/years in that area.

      Cynical? Moi? Wish I were not …

  30. Another superb effort by Fizza.

    You may have gas – at our prices

    East coast gas exporters on Tuesday signed a formal agreement with the government to offer enough gas to meet to an expected shortfall for next year and 2019 “and any emerging additional shortfall”.

    The agreement, to which Malcolm Turnbull was the government signatory, ties down arrangements reached in talks last week and follows estimates that the east cost market faces a shortfall of 54 petajoules (PJ) in 2018 and 48 PJ for 2019.

    According to the estimates, there could be an extra shortfall of 53 PJ in 2018 and 54 PJ the following year.

    The agreement is not specific on price, referring to “the good faith offering of gas to the domestic market on reasonable terms”.

    It says that uncontracted gas won’t be offered to the international market unless equivalent amounts have first been offered to the local market “on competitive market terms”.

    https://theconversation.com/price-still-up-in-the-air-as-gas-producers-sign-supply-deal-85082

  31. The commentators seem to have stopped the innuendo about Trump and are just saying what they really think. Just listen to the first 15 seconds to get my drift –

    • I keep on wondering what Adani has on Anastacia. It must be something really juicy. Why else would she keep pushing that lie about ‘10,000 jobs’ when everyone knows she is telling porkies.

    • Very emotional, but I’m not going to weep over this latest shooting. The US tolerates gun violence, accepts (mistakenly) gun ownership as a right. They lack the will to do anything about the problem, so they can just stop sobbing and deal with it. Am I hard-hearted? Probably, but until the people of the US demand changes to their laws and demand restrictions on gun ownership they can live with the consequences of the idiocy they support.

      Howard managed to summon up the will to do something to restrict gun ownership in Australia (he didn’t go far enough, but that’s another debate entirely). Why cant law-makers in the US do the same? A constitutional amendment written for conditions in the late eighteenth century is not relevant today, yet no-one has the will to change that constitution. It seems they would rather see civilians shot down while attending concerts or just going about their business than change their outdated constitution.

    • leonetwo
      I agree. I gave up on the USA gun problem after Sandy Hook, If that can’t motivate people to change the law, then nothing will.

      I was on Twitter just after it happened and replied to a couple of gun-nuts on the GunControlNow thread,

      They were pushing the line, ‘While the bodies are still warm these lefty fascists politicize this tragedy’ wtte.

      I dumped my ire upon a couple of them, not that they will change their stance but at least I felt better.

  32. leonetwo

    Is Broad thinking about turning independent?

    Or positioning himself in the event Joyce and/or Nash are rubbed out by the HC?

  33. Wow ! check out the clarity of this 1888 photo of Bertha Benz and her 13+15 yo sons as they set off for the world’s first automobile road trip over 200 kms. Sassy lady did not tell hubby Karl before setting off.

    In the early hours of a fine August day in 1888, together with her sons Richard and Eugen, and without the knowledge of her husband, Bertha Benz took to the road with the Benz Patent Motor Car. She was undeterred by the fact that some stretches of the roads, which were normally used only by horses and carriages, were anything but suitable for the automobile. Lack of fuel, clogged valves or wiring chafed-through to breaking point – she found a solution to every difficulty on the journey. She resorted to a garter, a hat-pin, and plundered the ligroin stocks of pharmacies along the route. Even when the fuel ran out completely outside Wiesloch, and the Motor Car had to be pushed for several kilometres, she was not too proud to get down herself and help.

  34. Things not going too well, Tessa?

    Theresa May has defended her decision not to sack Boris Johnson for making public demands about her Brexit policy, arguing she does not want a “cabinet of yes men”.

    Asked why the foreign secretary was still in his job, the prime minister said she was showing strong leadership by having a “diverse range of voices around the cabinet table”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/03/theresa-may-defends-decision-not-to-sack-boris-johnson

    Another “strong” leader.

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