Extended thread

                                                     Not Quite The Neverending Story



This will be the thread that will be in use for a extended period of time unless some one else wishes to post one.Now that Ned is well again I will be away for some time doing bits and pieces, going back and forth ,flying,boating but no driving or as little as possible.

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Things are still relatively quiet even with Barnyards rorting so the blog will just continue along with all your wonderful comments . I’m sure things will heat up as the year rolls along and we can expect the later half of the year to get busy as we get closer till the next federal Election .



The people here are what makes this place special so keep commenting,chatting and sharing your thoughts. I will still checking in and keeping a eye on things .

As always enjoy The Pub and yourselves.



1,575 thoughts on “Extended thread

  1. “I fidget with the digit dot, to cry an anxious tear, as the XU1 connects the spot but the matrix grid don’t care…”

  2. The tax cuts for big business reduce the value of dividend imputation for the retiree in a zero tax environment

  3. jaeger

    It is but knowing there are many CA’s and what the CA’s can do then surely governments can and do.

    • “A motif tune from the movie Brazil perhaps”

      It was, in various forms (e.g. see below.)

      I was most intrigued by the bit between 0:20 and 0:30; it sounds very familiar – an intro. to something?
      Emerson, Lake & Palmer Works Vol. 1 came to mind.

  4. If the theme from “Brazil” sounds familiar it’s because it is, it’s been around for ever. It’s called “Aquarela do Brasil”, or sometimes just “Brazil” – not because of the movie though.

    It’s not my sort of music. There are vocal versions, they are all horrid.

  5. @Jaeger

    Centrelink did not go well. They basically told me that I am not entitled to Austudy if my course does not match with their approved course list, so I remain on Newstart.

    However, my teacher told me yesterday that this problem isn’t out of the blue, and that she’s working with others at my university to put the course on the approved list for Austudy. She told me that hopefully the next update will happen on Monday.

    But still, since I’m still on Newstart, I’m going to have to still waste employers’ time by sending out 20 job applications next week. I don’t know who benefits from this other than evil bastards in the Liberal party who get off from making poor people suffer but that’s simply something that I can’t fight.

    Also if this Master’s – Austudy thing fails, I’m going to go into Catherine King’s local MP office and ask for help there. Her staff helped me out a long time ago and I hope they can help me out with this one.

    • Hope you have printed out heaps of applications, or do you have to do them individually. 20 a week is extreme, in fact it is insane if you are in an area where there not many jobs available.

  6. Good morning Dawn Patrollers. There’s a LOT of reading for you today.

    In separate early findings against the banks by counsel assisting Rowena Orr, QC, ANZ Bank, the CBA and NAB were all found by the commission to have breached their obligations to ensure a customer can afford a loan without going into financial hardship. Rowena Orr delivers!
    The banking royal commission may delay banking’s artificial intelligence nirvana. Google.
    And the home loan industry is heading for a shake up after what we heard at the royal commission.
    The Financial Services Royal Commission has seen evidence that bank directors and executives deliberately put in place policies to ignore the law. But research suggests the very organisational structure of banks makes it difficult to hold directors and senior executives criminally responsible for systemic misconduct.
    Questions are expected to arise at the banking royal commission over executive responsibility for NAB’s flawed Introducer program. Google.
    Rod Meyer writes that the big banks are in the firing line, with the financial services royal commission hearing they leave themselves open to findings of significant breaches of companies and credit law.
    Richard Dennis wonders why in the hell we need a $65b company tax cut while most of the Howard/Costello structural deficit remains. This is an excellent contribution.
    Ross Gittins writes on another taxation bugbear by saying most people don’t realise it, but we’re on the verge of letting foreign multinationals pay less tax on the profits they earn in Australia because we locals don’t mind paying higher tax to make up the difference.
    Obama delivered a very good speech in Sydney last night.
    Franchising is under the spotlight again with the competition watchdog turning its attention to the beleaguered sector after receiving 600 franchising related complaints last year. Bring it on!
    This week has been a signal moment for the Big Tech sector. It’s a moment where American politics and officialdom are rethinking their hypertolerant approach, and governments everywhere need to do the same.
    Mike Seccombe goes into Dutton’s white farmers’ untruths.
    A UK-style bank tax is emerging as a compromise that might get the Turnbull government’s proposed company tax cuts through the Senate.
    But Cormann rejects Hinch’s call for the exclusion of the banks from the corporate tax cut.
    Phil Coorey writes that the company tax battle is over and now the war will begin. Google.

  7. Section 2 . . .

    Stephen Koukoulas explains why the tax debate is getting hot.
    Paul Bongiorno opines that Shorten’s strategies are paying off.
    Katharine Murphy has a good look at the malaise of The Greens.
    Following the Greens’ loss in Batman, the party is coming to terms with the calibrated and carefully timed attacks from within.
    Not even John Bolton knows what Donald Trump will do on North Korea.
    The blueprint for how Cambridge Analytica claimed to have won the White House for Donald Trump by using Google, Snapchat, Twitter, Facebook and YouTube is revealed for the first time in an internal company document obtained by the Guardian.
    Kirst Needham writes that Australia’s great fear of a trade war breaking out between its largest trading partner and closest security ally is unfolding, as China and the United State exchange threats and release multi-billion dollar punitive tariff plans targeting each other.
    Yet another designer lady spills the beans on Trump.
    Paul Karp writes that Trump could yet impose import quotas on Australian steel and aluminium after it emerged the tariff exemption he granted Malcolm Turnbull would now have a deadline of 1 May.
    A woman has told Melbourne magistrates court that her brother said a bishop had exposed himself to him while he was a choir boy and that the culprit was “fucking George Pell”.
    And two men have alleged Pell sexually offended against them while playing games with them as children at a swimming pool in Ballarat.
    The Saturday Paper tells us abut the pugilistic strategy of Pell’s defence.

  8. Section 3 . . .

    Julia Baird examines the impact of the decision on marine parks.
    Chris Wallace lays the case against Malcolm Turnbull.
    Michaela Whitbourn tells us that Eddie Obeid’s last chance to get out of the slammer early has been squashed.
    Peter FitzSimons’ weekend sports column.
    Nicholas Stuart writes about our relationship with ASEAN.
    Students of the Parkland school gave guest edited this Guardian article on gun control in the US.
    The SMH editorial says that the stadiums issue is slipping out of control.
    An open letter to the students of America from one in Australia.
    How lowering the voting age to 16 could save democracy.
    Is Australia coping with the massive structural adjustments occurring in the media and their possible impacts upon our society?

  9. Section 4 . . . Cartoon Corner

    David Rowe just LOVES ridiculing Trump!

    Mark David goes to dinner with the Uber Tuber.

    Cathy Wilcox makes a good point.

    Another dig at the precious Dutton.

    And yet another!

    Two good ones from Peter Broelman.

    Paul Zanetti on Facebook.

    Cathy Wilcox goes to a tax haven.

    Here’s a couple from Matt Golding.

    Glen Le Lievre with a new breakfast cereal.

    Mark Knight at the Melbourne Grand Prix.

    Sean Leahy and the face of the Commonwealth Games.

    And he celebrates International Puppy Day.

    David Pope goes to the movies with the BCA and Cormann.
    Jon Kudelka welcomes Bolton to the Oval Office.
    More cartoons in here.

  10. Some pleasant Sat. morning reading.

    “The case against Malcolm Turnbull

    There is a moral case for moving Turnbull on. If principles of right and wrong mean anything, using one standard to unseat a rival and another to hold on to the job you stole from him while failing to meet that standard yourself is hypocrisy on a very grand scale. It is the marker of a weak, untrustworthy person.”


  11. Dutton – excels at having a sook, abysmal at leading a ministry.

    Border Force staff have little confidence in senior management, survey reveals

  12. On the bright side, because I live in a regional area, it makes it less likely I’ll have my studies interrupted. The only jobs available that apply to my degree seem to be very short term casual factory jobs in Melbourne and Geelong. My last offer for an interview was in February for a factory job in Lara.

    I’ve already applied for 320 jobs since graduating in November 2016 (that’s 20 a month every month), making it 340 is no biggie.

  13. I am in sunny Tasmania.

    It is raining!

    Oh well, I have some nice Tassie cheese and some great Tassie pinot noir, will live 🙂

  14. Labor’s newest federal MP, Ged Kearney, says she will play a role in Labor’s national conference in the middle of this year arguing for a more “humane” policy on asylum seekers and offshore processing.

    In an interview with Guardian Australia before her arrival in Canberra on Monday, Kearney acknowledged that some people in her Melbourne electorate of Batman – the seat the former ACTU president held for the ALP in last weekend’s byelection – would be “on watch” as she made the transition from candidate to her new life as a federal parliamentarian.

    Kearney said her constituents “will want to see me argue and work within the party for some change [on asylum policy], and that is what I have promised them, and that is what I will do”.

    “I’ve been clear to people that I may or may not be successful with that, but we are going to work through priorities, and some of those can be achieved,” Kearney said.

    “I think getting people off Manus and Nauru needs to be a priority, and hopefully if Labor is elected that is something we can actually deliver on.”


  15. Kirsdarke I am sorry to hear about your Centrelink woes

    If you decide to defer or dropout do so before March 31, university census date, after which you incur a HECS debt

    If by chance you land a job, a distinct possibility once employers see you are keen to study try to switch to night classes

    In my former life I had something to do with student selection and ensuring IT subjects got accreditation for professional associations and I don’t believe that Ballarat haven’t completed course accreditation for Austudy. I reckon the course is not accredited for Austudy and you are being strung along until after March 31 when you incur a HECS debt

    • Thanks, Billie.

      Well, to be honest, even if this all goes balls-up, I think I can do this, even on Newstart. For one thing, I’m over 30, so, when the time comes around to throw me on work-for-the-dole, I only have to do so for 15 hours a week rather than 25 as before. Also I can choose to do an online course rather than physical work.

      The Work for the Dole program is turning out to be a disaster it seems. And hopefully will be abolished soon.

      And applying for 20 jobs a month isn’t too much of a chore, at this point I’m just throwing my resume at 20 employers on the Seek website and reporting that.

      I am not going to pull out of this one and spend the rest of this year as I spent last year – unemployed, depressed, angry and drunk. I’m going to re-train myself this time and make something work.

  16. And Leone,

    Confirming as I instinctively supported, your account of that Greens-Labor squabble on Marine National Parks. A tweet from Tony Burke confirms Josh was telling porkies on ratification and Greens either bought it, or didn’t know what they were talking about.

    • Yes- Frydenberg has been making up porkies again, and Tony Burke isn’t allowing him to get away with it. Josh just makes himself look stupid – or more stupid – every time he opens his mouth.

  17. Good articles in the Saturday Paper this week. Better than last week’s crap about “Wither Labor?” assuming that they’d lose Batman.

    I like this line from Bongiorno’s article in particular.

    Some in shadow cabinet weren’t convinced opposing a new government’s first budget was a good idea. It’s hard to believe now, but then treasurer Joe Hockey’s 2014 effort initially won wide support in the media for its tough but necessary measures. In his reply speech two days later, Shorten slammed it, saying the budget was “built on lies and will make Australia a meaner place”. The budget, he told parliament, broke every pre-election promise Tony Abbott had made and Labor would not have a bar of it. He promised to block a string of measures in the Senate and dared the government to call another election. According to the adviser, “that speech was the beginning of Labor’s recovery”.

  18. I knew about Dutton’s alleged kidnapping of aboriginal boys, but I can’t give a link because the one I had has vanished from the internet. In fact, a lot of unflattering stuff about Dutton seems to have vanished.

    I didn’t know about the Kernot/Beazley business though.

    It’s way past time Dutton was investigated, not that it’s going to happen now Dutton controls everything.

    The comment about Pezzullo comes from this –

  19. Is dutton setting up his own separate government, first he hoovers up just about every department he can get his slimy hands on and now he wants that monstrous department he has established to start instigating taxes.
    When will our spineless pm drag this neanderthal back into line?

    • The super-ministry was a Turnbull captain’s pick. He was advised it wasn’t necessary but did it anyway. Making Dutton the minister in charge was another Turnbull pick. He was advised against that, too, but as keeping Dutton happy and powerful is the only way he can stay PM he went ahead and did it.


      Turnbull used to be against the idea of a huge super-ministry, but as with every other opinion he ever has had, he has backflipped..

      Back in 2008, when Turnbull was the leader of the Opposition, he defended the Howard government’s arrangement that saw each security agency operate independently.

      “Labor’s answer was to bring it all into one gigantic superbureaucracy, and today the Prime Minister [Kevin Rudd] himself has exposed that proposition as the hoax it always was,” Turnbull said.

      He went on to describe a potential merger as a “wasteful and costly exercise in bureaucracy” and said it would end up “confusing and complicating the existing practice of reporting lines within and between those agencies.”

      Nine years later, he decided to create the “gigantic superbureaucracy”


  20. Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    I’m well and truly sick of our prima donna cricket team. This is the last straw!
    Not a good week for Eddie. Now he has to cough a million dollars.
    Massive crowds have turned out in the US in protest about gun laws inaction.
    Matt Wade writes about Australian immigrants being amongst the happiest in the world.
    At last the Howard/Costello structural deficit is being recognised. Mark Kenny reports – and he’s not that enthusiastic about the big corporate tax cuts.
    Harold Mitchell defends income tax.
    A coalition of Australia’s most prominent welfare groups has implored Senate crossbenchers to reject the Turnbull government’s corporate tax cuts, saying the policy is “unconscionable” when millions live in poverty.
    Michael Koziol has information that proves how Catholic educators shift money from their poor schools to the rich ones. It’s a racket!
    Here’s Peter FitzSimons’ weekly column.

  21. Section 2 , , ,

    Jess Irvine won’t be quitting Facebook. She tells us why.
    The chief executive officer of the Consumer Action Law Centre writes that banks should be made to forgive bad debts granted irresponsibly.
    When it comes to jobs in a global context, Australia’s missing out. Alan Austin reveals the unemployment rates the mainstream media won’t.
    The former federal Privacy Commissioner Malcolm Crompton has blasted Australia’s major political parties as “incredibly secretive” about the information they gather on voters and suggested their exemption from privacy laws is indefensible.
    Here’s a Barnaby Joyce legacy that we should not be proud of. Appropriately it’s about rats.
    According to Nick Cohen UKIP is dead but Nigel Farage remains the most significant politician since Margaret Thatcher, his influence everywhere.
    Apple Chief Executive Tim Cook has called for stronger privacy regulations that prevent the misuse of data in the light of the controversial leak of Facebook user information.
    A whistleblower who worked for the official Vote Leave campaign has broken cover to raise concerns that the masterminds behind the 2016 vote – including key figures now working for Theresa May in Downing Street – may have flouted referendum spending rules and then attempted to destroy evidence.
    How is Australia traveling with the massive structural adjustment in media, activities of the “digital giants” of social media and impacts on society?
    The Australian Tax Office has conceded that website outages that dogged the agency in December 2016 and February 2017 were due to the failure of fibre-optic cables in its system hardware. The hardware that failed was also supposed to provide a “resilience factor” for the website, which would prevent problems in the system from bringing down the whole website.


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