Introducing our new management



It is with great pleasure that Inform Pubsters that Leonetwo and TLBD have agreed to take over management duties of  THE PUB

THE PUB needs a more hands on team that I can offer now and I can’t think of 2 other people that are more suited to this than Leone and The Duck.

I am sure that they will continue THE PUBS traditions of respect ,information and fun that has the made it a popular place with all Pubsters.

I along with all of you I’m sure look forward to their first posts and wish them all the best in their stewardship of THE PUB

My Thanks go to Fiona and Bushfirebill for their valuable contributions to THE PUB over the years.

I will still be around as a occasional contributor

I’m sure you all wish them well and will forgive any minor mishaps during the transition.






798 thoughts on “Introducing our new management

  1. re Tony Abbott’s pre-selection

  2. 2gravel

    The ladies are wearing pants instead of dresses?

    Yes with the ‘shock horror’ being that it was a wedding photo with bride and bridesmaids wearing them for the marriage ceremony.

  3. The Libs are broke, they don’t have the money for an election campaign so they are choosing candidates on the basis of who will bring in the most cash. Now they have lost Turnbull there will be no more $1.75 million donations. They are talking up Sharma as a great choice because he will bring in big donations – or so they hope.

  4. 2gravel

    It was part of an article highlighting some of the battles for equality in NZ for women. Anniversary NZ women getting teh vote in 1893 is coming up. A couple of snippets……..
    By marrying and being photographed in knickerbockers, Walker quite possibly clocked up another New Zealand first: the first woman to marry in pants. Walker and Wilkinson were founding members of the New Zealand Dress Reform Association, set up in May 1894, and jointly authored a 35-page pamphlet on dress reform calling for women to adopt “rational dress”.
    “Kate Edger ……. was as pioneering as our first women cyclists becoming, on July 11, 1877 the first woman in New Zealand to obtain a university degree and the first woman in the whole of the British Empire to earn a Bachelor of the Arts. ”
    Benjamin graduated in July 1897; two months later, on September 17, she became the first female lawyer in the British Empire to appear as a counsel in court, representing a client for recovery of a debt. At the head of her own law firm, working mainly as a solicitor, she handled many family law cases and did so in the face of considerable opposition from the Otago District Law Society.
    It’s taken decades for women’s sports teams to accorded some of the benefits, not to mention respect, of their male counterpoints and here it’s worth noting that the first try to get women’s rugby off the ground was in 1891 when a Mrs Nita Webbe advertised for prospective players. The idea was roundly condemned;

    • It is just such a hard, never-ending slog to get anywhere near equal rights. It is about time all women in sports were paid the same as men in the same sport. No ifs, buts or TV rights about it.

  5. The below is paywalled. I couldn’t get Outline to work. Bu it opens easily with my new Firefox add on (see last page for link).

    High-profile doctor Kerryn Phelps to stand as independent in battle for Wentworth
    Sharri Markson, The Sunday Telegraph
    September 15, 2018 8:44pm

    SHE’s changed laws on gay marriage, medical indemnity and adoption — all from outside of Canberra.

    Now, high-profile doctor, Kerryn Phelps wants a seat at the political table and will today announce she’s running as an independent for Malcolm Turnbull’s old seat.

    The 60-year-old former Australian Medical Association president told The Sunday Telegraph she wants to become the MP for Wentworth to “represent the sensible centre”.

    She would not, she said, block supply, and said the possibility of forming a partnership with the government if it lost its majority was “a long bow to draw”.

    • If you wear a dress like that you are positively begging for commentary about your enhanced mammaries. The woman’s poor taste extends to her ridiculous too large bag for evening wear

    • Very inappropriate dress.

      I suppose she spent a fortune on silicone implants and wants to show off the result, but she really is just begging for the wrong sort of attention. Her husband is the short, baling chap on her left.

      Her husband is Scummo’s media adviser, that explains a lot, especially that video. A totally mindless, tasteless pair.

      Ms Leembruggen has degrees in law and communication and has worked for a string of Liberal ministers and shadow ministers before moving to Paul Fletcher’s office. Interesting that she worked in Ciobo’s office at the same time Vicki Campion was there.

      LinkedIn gives these details –
      February 2018 – last change of PM
      Adviser to Senator the Hon Concetta Fierravanti-Wells, Minister for International Development and the Pacific

      November 2016 – January 2018
      Office of the Hon Steven Ciobo MP, Federal Minister for Trade, Tourism and Investment

      October 2015 – November 2016
      Media Adviser to Senator the Hon Michaelia Cash Minister for Employment, Minister for Women, Minister for Employment, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service

      December 2012 – October 2015
      Media Adviser The Hon Bob Baldwin MP, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for the Environment, Parliamentary Secretary to Minister for Industry, Shadow Minister for Tourism and Regional Development.

      Ms Leembruggen, judging by online photos, is addicted to plastic surgery, it’s not only her breasts that have been “enhanced”. She has had a lot done to her face as well.

  6. Good morning Dawn Patrollers

    Morrison will call a royal commission into the aged care sector. No doubt it will show, Oakden aside, the stark differences between the for profit and not for profit outfits.
    And it certainly should look at outfits like this!
    Greg Jericho says there are great economic figures, but it’s a shame about the leadership.
    David Crowe writes about Abbott’s close call with an empty chair.
    Nicole Hasham tells us that Shorten has encouraged Morrison to establish a federal ICAC in the light of the low esteem in which the public currently holds politics.
    Australians are sick and tired of politicians. The community is deserting the major political parties in droves. Most recently, we have seen it in Longman and Wagga. We have lost trust in our major political parties — most particularly the Liberal and National Parties in recent months. John Menadue calls for a national summit to restore trust in our democracy.
    Jacqui Maley explains what the PM’s offensive rap tweet says about this government.
    Drought-stricken farmers are challenging the Coalition’s climate change stance in a TV ad campaign.
    Phelps has announced that she will run in Wentworth.
    Nigel Gladstone explores how high-rise parenting is putting kids at risk as they are raised in apartment complexes that were not designed to house them and are often unsafe for small children.
    In quite an about face from a year ago Frydenberg has warned federal regulators to lift their game on policing the financial services industry, warning the authorities have a “case to answer” over scandals exposed by the banking royal commission.
    McDonald’s workers across the country have voted to stage a one-day strike next week, protesting on-the-job sexual harassment. The McDonald’s strike is not just brave, it will be historic. According to the organizers it will be the first multi-state strike in America focused on sexual harassment.
    Can Australia lead the way in standing up to Trump’s bullying?
    A good Sunday column from Peter FitzSimons.
    A good contribution from Jane Caro about living and struggling with shame.
    A United Nations body has condemned Australia’s arbitrary detention of three asylum seekers, one of whom has been held without charge or trial for nearly nine years.
    You have to admire Lleyton Hewitt and his passion for representative sport!

    Cartoon Corner

    Some Matt Golding recipes.

    Lovely work from Peter Broelman.

    Zanetti and the potential for a new persona non grata.

    Come cold comfort for the new Liberal leadership team from Alan Moir.

    Jon Kudelka takes us to New York with Malcolm and Lucy.

    A few more in here.

  7. BK thanks for your news roundup

    With respect to Aged Care, nothing will change until there are mandated nurse patient ratios. I know of a 120 bed Adelaide aged care facility that rosters on only one registered nurse for night shift

    A friend researched Aged Care facilities about 20 years ago and found very little difference in standard of care between for profit and not for profit. Not for profits tended to hire people for their religiously rather than competence. For profits have allowed their owners to become renowned art collectors cf The Stokes Collection in mount Macedon Vic

    In Geelong the dementia ward of last resort is the state run Grace McKeller which operates out of unmaintained cream brick buildings. It ran an occupational therapy program for its inmates whereas the smarter looking Salvation Army home plonked patients in front of big screen TV showing ballet videos.

    Honestly I reckon the frail elderly would be better cared for in state run homes that would be cheaper to run, as there won’t be fat fees paid to the operators

    • Just like Super. Funds run for members (industry) need to make a return, Retail funds need to make a return and a profit and guess which wins in the profit v return choice ? 😦

    • No-one wants to end up in a nursing home. I’ve never met anyone who said they couldn’t wait to be incarcerated.

      Why not allow the obvious alternative – voluntary euthanasia at a time of our choice, to avoid the need for aged “care”?

  8. Leroy

    Global financial crisis: Reflections from the heart of Australia’s government 10 years on

    Saw an NZ Herald article earlier this week about how Australia’s response cost NZ $2 Billion. Well actually Kevin Rudd. Helen Clark was about to announce gov. guarantees for the banks etc but not all financial institutions when word came through about an impending announcement from Aus about a blanket guarantee. Phones were rung and a call made to Wayne Swan who was in New York. He knew nothing about it and nor did others, seems it was a Rudd ‘Captain’s Call’ . The blanket guarantee meant NZ gov. ended up having to cover a few of the less reputable lot who later went under.

    • Rudd seems to have done a lot without consulting his Ministers. He always had to be seen to be doing something, imo. Even if that something was stupid.

      And I remember with despair the ‘evil people smuggler’ speech, that tied the ALP to the Libs Stop The Boats at all Costs manifesto. He could have taken a stand, he had the popularity, the win in the election, the support of the party. If he had said, ‘Hang on, mate. Let’s look at the reality of the situation. Kicking people when they are down is not Aussie, fair suck of the sav, let’s do this right and say no to Lib’s racist cowardice!’

      But Rudd bottled it, he went to water and look where we are now. The ALP is totally hamstrung on the issue. Gillard did not stand a chance, even though she got close (thanks for nothing, The Greens. When the chips are down you learn who your real friends are!)

      So we have a party too close to the reactionaries on boats, immigration, and security. Because Rudd was a gutless wangker.

  9. I think Morrison’s RC into aged care is just a delaying tactic. It will not be wound up before the next election, (if it is it will be a rushed and very shonky RC indeed) so during the election campaign Morrison can just wave away any questions on the damage caused by the ATM governments’ cuts to aged care funding by saying “We will wait for the final report from the commissioners before we make any comment”.

    I have absolutely no confidence in any RC cooked up by the Coalition, no matter who is PM.

    Never forget – Morrison was Minister for Social Services when the revamp of the now failed home care system was started. He is responsible for the current dire shortage of packages, he’s responsible for older people stuck on the waiting list for so long that they die before they receive a package. Never forget Morrison was Treasurer when aged care funding was cut in all his budgets.

    As Treasurer he was responsible for funding cuts to aged care. In this year’s budget there was no extra money for aged care, it was just a shonky pea-and-thimble trick with money taken from residential care and given to home care in a desperate attempt to try to distract attention from the overall failure his policies over several years had caused.

    Now he says he wants an RC to look at the mess he himself helped cause? How dumb does he think we are?

    Why would he now be trying to fix a system he helped destroy? Why would he be wanting to put substantial donors to the Liberal Party off-side by investigating the huge profits they make from aged care via their skimping on staff and care? He doesn’t want to fix anything. It’s just a distraction, an attempt to head off criticism over whatever will be shown by Four Corners over the next two weeks by allowing this farce of a government to claim they are “doing something”. .

  10. Any RC into Aged Care which does not include the retirement ‘industry’ is not good enough. But the Libs (and maybe some Labor? who knows?) have fingers in those pies. The rancid filling under the attractive pastry is resistant to being exposed to the public’s nose.

  11. I am never going into a nursing home nor definitely not into a retirement village. If worse comes to the worse, I have built in a contingency. I will not asset strip my family of a home one or more of my kids may need for their later years. Fvck it, the Liberal shonks and spivs are not getting my lifetime’s worth of assets in my old age.

  12. I won’t have to worry about going into a retirement village .Even if I wanted to, I can’t afford it, which is fine with me because I really cannot understand why anyone would want to be in one of those places. I’m not alone in that opinion, it’s not just me being my usual weird self, most of my friends feel the same way.

    I just don’t see any advantages, maybe someone here can enlighten me.

    If you believe the family home is now too big to manage then why not sell it and downsize to a smaller place suitable for your retirement? Why move into one of these rip-off villages with their on-going fees and their rules and restrictions?

    I have friends who have downsized into smaller homes, not in retirement villages, and still have plenty of space for vegie gardens, family and guests staying over, entertaining, pets, whatever. They have stayed in town, with their friends, community, church and sports groups still close by, instead of doing what too many oldies do, moving across the state to somewhere they know no-one. It seems nuts to me, to give up all that.

  13. I have been wondering why NZ Herald have been full of articles about women’s suffrage lately, dates don’t match. Found out today. Voting was in November but teh change in laws happened in September. 🙂

    On November 28, 1893, women in New Zealand were able to vote for the first time.

    Nearly 90,300 women aged 21 years and over cast their votes at polling stations all around New Zealand.

    Despite possibly hopeful warnings from opponents of women’s suffrage that ”lady voters” might be harassed at polling booths, election day passed off in a relaxed, festive atmosphere.

    According to a Christchurch newspaper, the streets ”resembled a gay garden party” and ”the pretty dresses of the ladies and their smiling faces lighted up the polling booths most wonderfully”.
    And it was nae just European ‘wimmin’

    By 1893 Mere Te Tai was establishing Ngā Kōmiti Wāhine, committees which addressed issues confronting women and their whānau, such as domestic violence, smoking, alcoholism, religion, single mothers and the retention of traditional skills.

    Her historic address to Kotahitanga (the Māori parliament of which her husband Hāmiora Mangakāhia was leader) sought recognition of Māori women’s rights as owners of land and resources, and the decision-making power many women of mana had over men.

    Pākehā women had fewer ownership rights and had long endured male domination.

  14. After Cutting All UNWRA Humanitarian Aid, US to Award Israel with $3.3B/Year in Military Aid

    The bill, combined with even more aid given to Israeli missile defense, would give $38 billion to Israel over the next ten years, roughly equivalent to $23,000 for every Jewish family living in Israel over the next decade.
    by Whitney Webb

    WASHINGTON — A massive spending bill, which would deliver $3.3 billion dollars in military aid to Israel over the next year, passed the House on Wednesday under cover of a media blackout. The U.S. Senate had passed a different version of the same bill in early August, a vote that also went largely unreported.

    Now, after the House’s passage of a slightly altered version of the Senate’s spending bill, officially titled the “Ileana Ros-Lehtinen United States-Israel Security Assistance Authorization Act of 2018,” all that remains is for the two chambers of Congress to reconcile their versions before the product is sent to President Trump’s desk to be signed into law. According to Skopos Labs, the bill now has a 90 percent chance of being enacted. If enacted, the bill will be the largest aid package in American history.

    As MintPress previously reported, $3.3 billion was supposed to be the annual limit for U.S. military aid to Israel. However, the figure is actually set to be higher this year as a result of Congress’ recent passage of a massive $716 billion defense bill that provides an additional $550 million in U.S. aid for Israeli missile defense systems. That defense bill also authorizes an additional $1 billion for U.S. weapons stockpiles in Israel.

    Furthermore, the $3.3 billion in annual aid is set to continue for the next decade based on the current text of the bill and the 2016 Memorandum of Understanding between Israel and the Obama administration — totaling over $38 billion over the next decade when accounting for annual military aid and annual aid given specifically to fund Israeli missile defense.

    That startling figure roughly equates to $23,000 for every Jewish family living in Israel.

  15. The main Fairfax news articles on the poll are not online yet. 53-47 to ALP.

  16. The umpteenth consecutive poll in a line that stretches back to August 2016 showing Labor in an election-winning position and all Crowe of Fairfax can say is the government is “holding steady”.

    What a laugh!

    It’s like saying “Titanic holding steady on iceberg” or “Hindenberg holding steady at Lakehurst mooring mast”.

    The best Crowe can do is spin the “attributes” numbers like mad while ignoring everything else. Fairfax is running the usual protection racket for Liberal PMs, no matter how appalling and incompetent they are there’s always some little piece of trivia that can be spun into a positive story. The bleeding obvious – Morrison is leading his government to an election loss every bit as bad as Turnbull would have had, if he had been allowed to stay – is conveniently ignored.

    How does Ipsos do this polling? Anyone know?

    Do respondents to their political polls get cold called, are they using robo-polls or are they done online, like a lot of Ipsos consumer surveys? I’ve rummaged around the Ipsos site and they are very cagey about their methods.

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