Yes Friends It,s Friday Night and we all Know what that means
lets be positive. Abbott and his mates
Will be
As Tony Said
But at least we can say
So lets enjoy the next 3 years as best we can
Xmas time is here
And the festive spirit will soon be upon “The Pub”
Enjoy your weekend and don.t forget to get your raffle tickets
Have Fun.
THE PUB 
Re: Parsing Abbott…
Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
Ah, it’s good to see a man of principle at work.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/treasurer-joe-hockey-seeks-deal-with-greens-to-scrap-the-debt-ceiling-20131201-2yjum.html
There’s no confusion Mr Abbott. You bloody lied! (Just as Peta instructed you to do, no doubt.)
And by the way, we’re not idiots. We know exactly what was said.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/prime-minister-tony-abbott-blames-gonski-funding-confusion-20131201-2yjr3.html
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/01/abbott-defends-gonski-reversal-misunderstood-promise
I suppose they will still stick to the specious line that Australia is the only place in the world with a price on carbon.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/chinese-provinces-emissions-trading-move-leaves-australia-behind-20131201-2yjvb.html
Walkley Award winner Joanne McCarthy tells it as it is regarding church child abuse. And she really serves it up to Abbott at the conclusion of the fine article.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/arrogant-churchmen-should-have-taken-time-out-for-a-cup-of-tea-with-victims-of-abuse-20131201-2yjlj.html
Section 2 . . .
If this is only half true it is a disgrace! Pyne must go.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/public-schools-left-with-a-fifth-of-funds-warns-union-20131130-2yii8.html
MUST SEE! Hockey’s canine confliction from Alan Moir.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/alan-moir-20090907-fdxk.html
Just for fun here’s David Poe’s Pyneocchio effort again.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0.html
Ron Tandberg rolls out Morriscum and his toy soldier.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/ron-tandberg-20090910-fixc.html
BK,
Moir’s portrait of Bananaby Joyce is a barking likeness.
And from the Land of the Free –
Some cartoons on US politics vs women.
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2013/12/01/cartoons-day-politics-vs-women/
And some more on the guns society.
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2013/11/30/cartoons-day-guns-r-america/
Rick Santorum. This religious freak could have been the US President. Just imagine . . .
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/santorum-denying-women-contraception
Those two airheads, Sally Warhaft and Libby Gore, have just been doing a “compare and contrast” of the smashing of Gonski and the carbon “tax”. Gore mentioned JULIAR and asked whether there might be an element of sexism involved in the different treatments. Warhaft’s response?
Oh, I dunno … it’s a bit early to say
That’s it. The radio stays on ABC Classics this summer.
And about bloody time too – what a colossal waste of money. Seven days in court, thirty witnesses, tens of thousands of dollars to be spent all for $900 that Slipper was not allowed to pay back. If it all goes well for Mr Slipper we won’t hear a word about the final outcome.
Peter Slipper to face ACT Magistrates Court over alleged misuse of Cabcharge vouchers
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-02/slipper-to-face-court-today-over-alleged-misuse-of-cabcharges/5127844
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Craig Thomson is also back in court today.
http://wixxyleaks.com/2013/12/02/youre-not-listening-craig-thomsons-trial-by-media/
Leone,
With any luck we will be getting a report from Billie on Craig Thomson’s matter.
Somebody on Twitter has just mentioned how the use of the word “quantum” indicates dishonesty in politicians. They’re not wrong. I just looked the word up, so as to be sure of what it indicates. While there are a few variations about, these ones caught my eye:
I believe Abbott is under the impression using words like ‘quantum’ make him sound intelligent. I bet Peta told him to use it as part of her new ‘Get Tony Onto Bigger Words’ program. (Note that spelling, I refuse to use the bastardisation The Idiot wants us to use.) What a shame Peta didn’t look up the meaning first.I look forward to more big word gaffes from PMBO.
But, but, Leone – “programme” is so refeened.
‘Programme’…. ‘soiree’……what next? Candlelight suppers?
This just landed on my Facebook page. So true…..
Leone,
Candlelight suppers? No, not quayte quayte.
I’m looking forward to something like this:
Oh geez, a debutante ball. I can see it now, the Great Hall decorated with roses and asparagus fern, Australian flags and Union Jacks draped from the valuted ceiling, Prince Harry, replendent in his full dress uniform, dragged back to the colony to be presented with the finest young gells of the bunyip arisitocracy…..and Fridget and Brances, in tight white frocks leading the procession.
Excellent summary of the lies of Christopher Pyne – paywalled. but you know how to get arouind that.
Christopher was so tied to the new school funding model we thought his name was Pyneski
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/cutandpaste/christopher-was-so-tied-to-the-new-school-funding-model-we-thought-his-name-was-pyneski/story-fn72xczz-1226772523424#
Fiona
Me too, but not classical. We have a community radio here and they play all the 50’s, 60’s, 70’s and 80’s. Time just flies when you have something to sing (badly in my case) along to.
The “She Lied” campaign was a racist one based on Gillard’s race, and her gender.
Julia Gilliard is Welsh. The term to ‘welsh’ on a bet comes from an English belief that the Welsh are untrustworthy oath-breakers.
(As an anecdote, I had an English migrant tell me adamantly, never turn your back on a Welshman.)
This has historical beginnings. In the 14th Century, Welsh chiefs would make allegiances with the bordering English lords. As normal these deals lasted until they were no longer useful. But the Wales being tiny collection of fiefdoms next to a bigger Kingdom which was eyeing off its resources was a hotbed of deals, intrigues and switching allegiances was the norm. King John finally killed off the strongest chieften who was close to uniting all Welsh chiefs under his rule as Prince of Wales. By making the King’s son and heir the Prince of Wales King John made sure no Welshman would ever be the ruler of Wales. The Welsh still hate the English for it, and the English reckon the Welsh are lying oath-breakers.
Abbott is English, and was educated in England. Gillard is Welsh.
Abbott knew exactly what he was doing when he branded Gillard an oath-breaker.
It was never about which words Gillard used in a sentence. Abbott would have found a phrase somewhere in her speeches as the vehicle to prosecute his race-baiting campaign.
He knows it, Gillard knows it.
He is a nasty, vindictive scheming racist, hiding his psychopathy behind a religious facade. In the olden days he would have burnt Julia Gillard at the stake.
Free article, mentions other items of parli agenda this fortnight
http://www.afr.com/p/national/fofa_rollback_leads_abbott_cabinet_jRGi1m2WDxCWk9Yg3DfcVK
FoFA rollback leads Abbott cabinet agenda
PUBLISHED: 7 hours 56 MINUTES AGO | UPDATE: 0 hour 57 MINUTES AGO
Laura Tingle Political editor
Federal cabinet is expected to consider, as early as Monday, measures to wind back Labor reforms to the financial planning industry, despite apparent concerns by Treasury and Finance about some of the measures.
Cabinet will meet at the beginning of the last two weeks of parliamentary sittings for the year, with the government seeking passage of legislation to lift the Commonwealth debt limit from $300 billion to $500 billion as well as repeal of the carbon and mining taxes, along with their associated spending measures and carbon infrastructure.
New MP Clive Palmer is also scheduled to give his maiden speech to the House of Representatives on Monday, and has threatened to table “a certain amount of evidence” that could disgrace the Queensland premier and his ministers.
free article
http://www.afr.com/p/business/sunday/qantas_lobbies_against_sham_virgin_dWERo3DoDzSwrBUjc10yUN
Qantas lobbies against ‘sham’ Virgin structure
PUBLISHED: 01 Dec 2013 10:24:00 | UPDATED: 02 Dec 2013 04:17:57
Nabila Ahmed and Jamie Freed
Qantas Airways chief executive Alan Joyce, who is seeking government assistance to shore up the airline’s credit rating, is pushing Deputy Prime Minister Warren Truss to revoke the international flying rights of rival Virgin Australia Holdings.
In a letter obtained by Nine Network’s Financial Review Sunday, Mr Joyce describes Virgin as a “newly minted sovereign-owned airline” and says it has “the ability to do great harm to not only Qantas but severely disrupt Australia’s critical national infrastructure and aviation policy”.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/investigations/iron-exports-defy-clive-palmer/story-fnk76wj3-1226772624644#
Iron exports defy Clive Palmer
HEDLEY THOMAS The Australian December 02, 2013 12:00AM
THE Abbott government has backed a major Chinese company with a decision out of Canberra that sidelines political rival Clive Palmer and thwarts his attempts to prevent valuable iron ore concentrate being shipped to China from the Pilbara region of Western Australia.
The high-level decision to give the green light to the first loading of a Chinese vessel with concentrate from Mr Palmer’s tenements means West Australian Premier Colin Barnett will today mark the occasion with Chinese dignitaries at Cape Preston, near Karratha, just hours before Mr Palmer’s maiden speech in federal parliament.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-02/class-action-over-anz-bank-fees/5126286
ANZ class action: 38,000 customers take bank to Federal Court over fees
By consumer affairs reporter Amy Bainbridge
Updated 29 minutes ago
The largest consumer class action in Australian history begins in the Federal Court in Melbourne today as 38,000 ANZ customers appeal over the bank’s fees.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-02/clive-palmer-to-set-partys-agenda-in-maiden-speech-in-fed-parlia/5128104
Sunshine Coast MP Clive Palmer to set party’s agenda in maiden speech in Federal Parliament
Updated 44 minutes ago
Queensland businessman and Sunshine Coast MP Clive Palmer will today deliver his maiden speech to Federal Parliament.
Mr Palmer, who is the Member for Fairfax, says he will set out the agenda for his Palmer United Party (PUP) in his speech.
Puffy,
That is a very interesting proposal. I find it intuitively plausible (and I’m not being condescending).
free article
http://www.afr.com/p/opinion/gonski_becomes_the_pm_carbon_tax_rdQ7HX7FfeSF2dLPOxExUK
Gonski becomes the PM’s carbon tax moment
PUBLISHED: 5 hours 44 MINUTES AGO | UPDATE: 1 hour 19 MINUTES AGO
Phillip Coorey
For as long as she remains on this mortal coil, Julia Gillard will contend she never broke her pre-2010 election promise that there would be no carbon tax under a government she leads.
Technically she can continue to argue the policy she implemented in cahoots with the Greens was an emissions trading scheme with a fixed price for the first three years, just as the original carbon pollution reduction scheme under Kevin Rudd was designed with a one-year fixed price before it floated.
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They are seeking the very nuance they denied Gillard for three years.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/dec/02/carbon-tax-repeal-unworkable-if-applied-retrospectively-industry
Amy Bainbridge is incorrect – the class action against the ANZ has already been fought in court with some fees being deemed as illegal and others able to be levied.
The action today is the appeal lodged by both sides, to strike out or extend the initial ruling.
http://delimiter.com.au/2013/12/02/labor-demands-turnbull-release-nbn-strategic-review/
Written by Renai LeMay on Monday, December 2, 2013 10:14
Labor demands Turnbull release NBN Strategic Review
The Opposition has demanded the Federal Government release the Strategic Review report which NBN Co has conducted into its operations and possible future plans. However, the report has not yet been delivered to the Government, even in draft form.
The Strategic Review is being led by NBN Co’s Board and executive management. Its primary objective is to evaluate both the current NBN operational and financial performance as well as the timing, financials and product offers under alternative models of delivering very fast broadband to homes and businesses across Australia. Its recommendations will help shape the Government’s decisions regarding the future of the project.
I just saw Abbott’s latest video – some lies about $500 – but what intrigued me was his makeup. They seem to have missed one eye when they applied the fake tan and the other eye looks like Abbott is auditioning for a new version of Kiss.
Take a look – I recommend turning the sound off. Has Margie finally cracked and given him a good punch in the eye? It’s not a shadow, it doesn’t move.
Leone
I’ll trust your interpretation, I couldn’t stomach watching, let alone hearing.
Well, Coorey can talk around it all he wants, but the fact is that what Gillard did was not a lie but a false prediction. Post-election in 2010, the two statements:
– there will be no carbon tax under the Government I lead
– there will be action on carbon pollution
… were incompatible. They could not both be true – they were potentially both true prior to the election, but not any more – thanks to the minority government in the lower house. One had to go. It was only sensible to keep the one that was best for the environment. And of course to make the first statement as true as was humanly possible. Negotiate for it, try to strike a deal.
Now, when a party promises something in the election campaign, and then when in government says, “Oh no, we’re not even going to try to do that, we won’t even negotiate for it, we’re just not going to do it,” – that’s a lie.
Coorey in full “That Media, That One Over There” mode:
To “the vast majority of voters” we can add The Media. How else could Abbott have nailed Gillard except with the Media’s help?
The Media have shown not the slightest sign of deviating from the he-said/she-said mode of reporting political news.
What Coorey is essentialy saying is that, if Abbott had so decided to “nail Gillard to the wall”, the Media would have gone along with it. How else could all that nailing have been perpetrated, except if the Media joined in?
The Media knew the difference – the separation between fixed and floating prices – as Coorey points out, but did little to make that distinction clear at the time, or since… other than the odd parenthetic mention to cover their arses. The Media went along with their own Group Think, and the public’s “perception” of “The Carbon Tax” being defined as “any action at all on carbon emissions”. They gave up telling the truth, insisting that truth should be part of the debate, and instead went with common wisdom, the “front bar” scuttlebutt, the “barbeque stoppers”, wrong though they were. It was far too easy to just slag off the Prime Minister and have a laugh between themselves at her predicament on Insiders.
How many times did we hear them say, “She just can’t take a trick”? It became almost a national journalistic pastime to queue up to say it. Har-Har.
Even as recently as last week, polls sampled the public’s attitude towards repeal of the carbon tax, some without differentiating between the “tax” component and the “ETS” component. This allowed journalists to write stories saying – in my view without sufficient evidence, and in defiance of some of it – that the public wanted the whole lot thrown out, baby and bathwater.
I would suggest that Coorey himself would have gone along with the blurring of distinction between and ETS and tax components. I didn’t see him writing “J’Accuse!” type columns tut-tutting at “the Media” missing the very real separation between a fixed price and an ETS… until today, of course.
It’s all so easy now when Abbott has been elected to write obscure columns in the AFR (circulation 75,000) lamenting how Abbott, inevitably through “the media”, treats things, while being one of the chief guilty parties yourself.
To be fair, it could be the lighting of the video, or just Mr Abbott’s peculiar bone structure.
It could also be that he is not sleeping well, or had insufficient endorphins flow due to lack of exercise because he’s having to actually turn up in parliament and do stuff indoors instead of spending time on his bike … ?
And we were never at war with East Asia. There is no Indonesia crisis. The relationship is good, and getting better. They are our best friends, you know.
This is all aimed at shutting up at least the ABC.
Once Abbott declares that the difference between “black” and “white” is a political issue, in fact declaring black to be white, the ABC are obliged to provide “a balanced view”.
The best they can now say about it is that Pyne’s and Abbott’s statements have “appeared to contradict” their pre-election policies, or that “the Opposition says…” there is “some inconsistency in the government’s adjustments to Education policy.”
It’s either that or call Abbott a liar, something which is guaranteed to bring down the wrath of the Liberal Media Einsatzgruppen upon their hapless heads.
What a crawling suck-up our PM is. This is paywalled but everything we need to know is right here –
Indonesia, PNG escape Coalition’s $4.5bn aid cuts
“The Abbott government has excluded Indonesia and Papua New Guinea from its $4.5 billion in cuts to the foreign aid budget, creating headaches for the Cabinet as to where else to find the savings.”
http://www.afr.com/p/national/indonesia_png_escape_coalition_bn_T3bDkjRfVhUsJFDQRJKdXK
What would I do with an extra $550? Well, let’s step politely around the fact that my electricity costs per annum barely cross $1000, so even potentially speaking I’d be lucky to see $90 coming back to me – less than $2 a week. If I’m not mistaken, a saving of $550 would have to come to a household currently spending something like $1400 per quarter. I’d reckon that family could come up with some ways to save $550 a year without worrying about some carbon tax. And let’s also step politely around the fact that the prices won’t actually come down anyway, as power companies are already talking about hiking prices. How would I spend that hypothetical windfall? If I haven’t used it up on unicorns and fairy dust, I’d probably have to sink a lot of it into petrol. With the $A plummeting the way it is, we’re going to be spending a lot more for anything we import. Or, you know, a down-payment on an NBN connection that I was supposed to be getting for free.
The bigger question is: Why is Abbott playing the spiv? That ad is hitting the consumer on about the same level as sports betting ads. Want some free money, punters? All you have to do is subvert the process of Parliament! Guaranteed money in your pocket!* You could be as happy as these greedy, short-sighted people! Trust me. have I ever let you down before?**
* Disclaimer: Money may not actually be guaranteed. Check the fine print, and parse the words.
** Disclaimer: This is not a guarantee that I have not let you down before.
Revealed: Australian spy agency offered to share data about ordinary citizens
• Secret 5-Eyes document shows surveillance partners discussing what information they can pool about their citizens
• DSD indicated it could provide material without some privacy restraints imposed by other countries such as Canada
• Medical, legal or religious information ‘not automatically limited’
• Concern that intelligence agency could be ‘operating outside its legal mandate’
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/02/revealed-australian-spy-agency-offered-to-share-data-about-ordinary-citizens?CMP=twt_gu
I wish they would cut out the rot, on MSM including the ABC.
It is unlikely, that Abbott will get a DD election with only one bill, Unlikely he will get it, so close to new senators taking their seat.
That is reality.
The GG does not have to assent. Abbott still has to prove, Parliament is unworkable.
It is more likely that Abbott will be told to wait until the new senators take their seats.
This is another stunt by Abbott, same as the debt ceiling exaggerations.
Abbott is trying to create a parliamentary crisis, in saying parliament is being made unstable by the actions of Labor.
This is bullshit. Labor has just as much of a so called mandate, to vote as they see fit, as Abbott does.
Labor is behaving according to the constitution,.
Abbott is not, when he claims the has been given a mandate to pass all, with the Opposition runner stamping it.
This goes against the Constitution.
Martin Sharp has died. One of the original partners/contributors in Oz Magazine with Richard Walsh and Richard Neville. I was from a Labor family, so I can’t say Oz changed me, but it certainly opened my eyes at a time when Australia was a very cloistered public society. RIP.
http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/art-and-design/artist-martin-sharp-dies-of-long-term-illness-20131202-2ykk4.html
The quote is from Latika, but it was Coorey who belled the cat.
Corey’s article today is a terrible admission of how the media works.
Coorey stated that even if there had been no fixed price component (or “tax”) involved, and only an ETS used to combat carbon emissions, the media (of which he is, apparently, not a member) would have gone along with Abbott in calling it a “Carbon Tax” anyway.
He stated specifically that the same words, in the same interview, (paraphrased) “No Carbon Tax, but there will be carbon pricing”, would have been wrought into a broken promise on “The Carbon Tax”.
There is no other way Abbott could have “nailed her to the wall” without a compliant and hostile media, more interested in sparks flying than in accurate reportage and comment.
Whether they were hostile to Gillard because they are like The Alien – simple xenomorphs, their purity being in their hostility – we are yet to see.
I suspect not. But I also suspect that, with Murdoch calling the shots in the Liberal Party, there will be a few non-Murdoch media organizations that may turn nasty against this government, and for good, solid, self-interested reasons.
Abbott has today made a blanket “Promise of Promises”: he has said will never break a promise.
There’s the gauntlet, thrown down.
Who wants to be the first to accuse him of breaking promises now? Who wants to accuse him of lying, breaking a promise about the very act of breaking promises?
I bet the ABC see the writing on the wall, for one. There’s no hope for them, but they have to keep hoping nevertheless.
Who else?
Perhaps a television network that wants to keep Free To Air sport away from Foxtel – say Nine with the cricket, or 7 with the golf – may see that it’s better to go along with Abbott.
Perhaps a newspaper, like a Fairfax masthead, that needs all the government advertising it can get?
All of these can be kept sweet if Abbott dangles a carrot, by daring them to call him a liar now, that he’s confirmed he not only has not lied, but will never lie.
Is that “Never, ever”?
It all depends when the “Trust” penny drops – a double-sided penny, with two heads, each making different promises – before it becomes apparent that trusting Abbott never got anyone anywhere – from Abbott’s (now dead) girlfriend who was abandoned by him, to Barry O’Farrell years ago when he and Abbott both went for NSW state President of the Liberal Party, to Malcolm Turnbull who was “fully supported by Abbott, “to Peter Reith and the National Presidency (ditto on “full support”), right up to to Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono (who, to be fair, does seem to have caught on).
Once Abbott starts favouring Murdoch the other media organizations will begin to scream.
Alternatively, if he makes it clear to Murdoch that he won’t be helping him as much as Murdoch thought – that what was in Abbott’s mind was different to what was in Murdoch’s – then screaming will only be the half of it. Renting of garments will be the order of the day.
The basic thing you need to understand about Abbott is that he the encapsulization of the short-term politician. He does or says whatever is required to get him to the next base. There are few grand, sweeping gestures in Abbott’s political make-up. It’s not how he operates.
But when you do a deal with the Devil, as Abbott seems to have done with either Murdoch, the rest of the media, or both, then you’d better make sure your back is covered.
But who would cover it, if he gets up the Media’s nose?
bushfirebill – could be worth turning both your Coorey related comments into an actual post. Its a very hot topic on twitter right now, all aspects of Gonski, broken promises etc. A few are counter arguing that this won’t hit the govt that hard, as most people didn’t really understand what gonski was anyway.
Ominous…
It’s “Tony Abbott’s motorway”, too, remember.
When they start labelling projects under the name of the head of the government promoting them, things are getting sticky.
It seems that Alison Watkins has resigned from Graincorp. Bummer.
We already know how much Abbott and Rudd hated Gillard. Both had similar and different reasons. But why did the journos – of both sexes – hated her too. She hadn’t done anything to annoy them except little comments like: “Don’t write crap.” Comments which were said long after Gillard had had to put up with blatant imbalance from the likes of Grattan … Silly old mouse! And others.
Gillard was practically on her own. The Labor govt was very poorly served during its term.
bushfirebill
Even more galling is that several times the GG itself reported what JG said . This example from his eminence and Shanana.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/julia-gillards-carbon-price-promise/story-fn59niix-1225907522983#sthash.xmCCquWR.dpuf
Dumb and dumber on PS staffing sizes/cuts.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/public-service/the-job-cuts-pantomime-and-ongoing-idiocy-over-public-service-staff-levels-20131128-2yee7.html
Abbott and Pyne are now on ABC 24
Announcing a simple system that is fair and national. Has agreement of states that did not sign?
All in a few days????
He has agreement with the bodies that cover only 29% of kids. The other states that signed up to Gonski, covers 80%
Third scheme within a week.
Simple answers (systems) seldom work for complex problems.
This will turn into a non-transparent mess where the wealthy private schools again rape the system with the Governments blessing.
Run, Rabbott, Run …
I have no idea what Abbott is saying because i have him muted, but he Most definitely has a black eye. It’s not a trick of lighting, it’s not a shadow, it as most definitely a bruise under and around the eye. Heavily covered with makeup, but still clearly visible. I wonder who hit him?