The Women of Simpson

Just on a fortnight ago, Gorgeous Dunny emailed me with this thread-starter. Among other things, he said:

Assuming a worst-case scenario, I thought that this story might be useful. It is nothing like what we had discussed about the gutting of the CES, but I did do a useful digression at one point in the story to explain why we need to have a fairly strong bureaucracy, and that some of the work they do is extremely valuable.

We may be facing a slash and burn if Hockey gets his hands on the Treasury keys. So it could be a useful reminder of the type of thing we’d lose.

I think Gorgeous Dunny is right. We need to refocus, we need to start the campaign for the next election NOW, and we need to trumpet every broken promise, every bit of damage to the polity, every bit of stupidity that this Abbott-led government will undoubtedly commit.

Thank you, GD, for your clarion call to arms!

Simpson is a small township in the Heytesbury district of Western Victoria, roughly between the regional cities of Colac and Warrnambool. Simpson is relatively close to other larger townships of Cobden, Timboon and Camperdown. It was founded after World War 2 as a base for soldier settlement farmers.

With less concern for such matters at that time, native forest was cleared to allow farming. It was suited for dairy farming, as was the entire district. The climate is cool with a high rainfall. The soil, once part of a volcanic area, is fertile. The farming flourished in that endeavor.

As one of the country’s most productive dairy regions, butter, cheese, ice cream and powdered milk factories prospered. By the 1970s, Kraft Foods decided to establish a cheese factory at Simpson. Kraft was already a dominant influence in Warrnambool and Allansford. Thus, the Victorian Government greeted the investment with some enthusiasm.

The Minister for Decentralisation, Mr Digby Crozier, was very keen to encourage any country investment and employment prospects. When Kraft first proposed the factory, he offered to build Ministry of Housing dwellings at Simpson to accommodate the employees. Kraft accepted.


(Credit: Colac Herald)

The best-laid plans of Mice and Men oft go astray – Robert Burns

The problem was that Simpson was only about ten minutes’ drive from Cobden, and about the same in different directions from Timboon and Camperdown. These places were the most likely sources of employees needed (many having the right type of experience). By the 1970s, the private car dominated as a means of transport. It was not worthwhile for employees from these places to relocate to Simpson, even though they readily accepted the work.

The Ministry of Housing was then in the unusual position of having a quantity of rental houses available at Simpson but no prospective tenants. That was contrary to the rest of the state where prospective tenants far outnumbered the housing available. It was too good to let go.

The dilemma was resolved by using that accommodation for single mothers with children. There was an abundance of single mothers on the Ministry waiting list for accommodation. As deserted wives, the victims of domestic violence, the spouses of alcoholics and drug abusers – they were invariably without means. And as the primary carers of pre-school and school-age children, they had few options for obtaining income. So the unwanted country housing became a refuge for young single-parent families (mostly from the city) in desperate need of accommodation.

There would have been adjustments for some, but the overall impact must have been positive. For the first time they had a secure cottage and land. It was at an affordable rental, and they could get on with their lives free of many stresses associated with the basics of food, clothing and shelter.

Although Simpson had minimal resources as a tiny country town, it did have the basics of a primary school, shop and park. Cobden, with a hospital, high school, super markets and other resources was only about ten minutes drive away.

As far as can be ascertained, most such families settled in well. They would have forsaken frequent contact with other family members and friends, and with services we’d take for granted such as dental and optical and the larger range retailing and recreation. That could be balanced against the freedom from abusive and violent partners. It was a safe and healthy place to raise children.

But by 1988, changes were occurring. The social security system that supported these women and their families was changing. In the 1970s, there had been a mishmash of pensions such as Widows and Deserted Wives. They had been merged under the general title of Supporting Parents Benefit. One further change during the reforms of the late 80s, however, was that the Supporting Parents Benefit ceased when the youngest dependent child turned 16 years.

Those claiming such a benefit were then expected to register for unemployment benefit, and implicit in that, to seek employment. The little haven of tranquility was suddenly exposed to threat.

This change exposed the social problem. The very strength of their location suddenly seemed a weakness. As sole supporting parents they were given housing priority. The country location, far from being a disadvantage was actually helpful, despite their city origins. Abusive and dominant ex-spouses were unlikely to trouble them.

If they were to become jobseekers, however, that very isolation could become a disadvantage. The government, sensitive to the impact from these changes to benefits, had assigned counsellors to assist in the transition. Simpson, however, was a different matter, with such a high proportion of its tenants on Supporting Parents benefit.

How I came to be involved is part of a different era in public policy, and worthy of a digression. For the last three decades it has been fashionable to talk about “reducing public waste”. In particular there have been political demands to reduce public sector staff numbers. Usually, politicians explain it away as “only cutting out excessive administrative positions” but not reducing important public contact positions. That is the political position, but it is more wishful thinking than realistic.

In my entire career I have always been happier and more effective in public contact work than in administration. But even I know the immense value of a strong administrative base. We need it to determine that our taxes are well spent. That requires a lot more than just eliminating waste and duplication. A lot must be invested in research to ensure that the scarce resources we have are spent in the most effective way. And a lot is invested in planning and developing public policy to ensure it has the widest reach for the greatest need.

The year 1981 was proclaimed the International Year of Disabled Persons (IYDP) by the United Nations. It called for a plan of action with an emphasis on equalization of opportunities, rehabilitation and prevention of disabilities.

In Australia (in an era just before the Reagan and Thatcher age took hold), all were called on to contribute in the private and public sectors. The country got right behind the idea. Great energy and investment was put into improving access for people with disabilities. Most was done on the most obvious shortcomings such as improving wheelchair access to buildings and toilets.

Our Department (Employment, Education and Training) considered access to its services, especially training and employment.
In particular, it looked at overcoming barriers to obtaining and retaining employment. It did not look at subsidies so much as to ask the question, what does such a person need to be competitive in the job market? When considered like that, the answer seemed to be to have employment skills that were in demand. From that it devised a Labour Market Program (LMP), which became known by its acronym as DAWS (Disabled Apprentice Wage Subsidy).

An employer hiring an apprentice under DAWS would receive a wage subsidy for the duration of the apprenticeship. In dollar terms it was about $130 per week. Over the duration of the apprenticeship, that meant near 100% of the wage at first year level, and a gradually receding percentage over the succeeding years as the trainee became more skilled and experienced, and was better paid.

The DAWS program was much more than just a wage subsidy, however. It had provision for Tutorial Assistance to help trainees with trade school. If a person had a hearing impairment, an intellectual disability, dyslexia or literacy problems, it could be applied to enable success. Other LMPs could be used in conjunction with DAWS. The Modifications to the Workplace Program enabled the purchase of particular equipment to be used in work. The aim was to allow the person then to focus entirely on doing the job.

From my perspective as an Employment Counsellor, DAWS was the best ever Labour Market Program. Persons with trade qualifications and skills had something to offer an employer. In most cases that meant that they became independent of social security support through employment, and sometimes self-employment, in the community. It achieved the aim of shifting the focus away from the impairment to how he or she could work. From a public point of view, such people instead of receiving benefits became taxpayers.

I have digressed at some length to illustrate the value of public policy research, evaluation and development. The argument that we can save public money by just reducing the number of jobs in the public service, especially at the Head Office administration level, is simply nonsense.

At the time of my story (the late 1980s), a great deal of research went into developing programs of assistance to employees made redundant be the reductions in tariffs. When used effectively, they could achieve good results in redeployment.

This digression was a way of explaining the Department and my role in intervening with The Women of Simpson. When Supporting Parent Benefit ceased to become available to those whose youngest child had turned sixteen, the primary support option then was unemployment benefit. To be eligible, however, persons had to be available for work and actively seeking it, or at least obtaining skills to be able to find work.

It was not just the shock in the changed conditions of support. It could potentially lead to distress as people looked at their plight. The government, sensitive to such a situation, would have already briefed and funded the two key departments Employment, Education and Training (DEET), and Social Security (DSS) to help alleviate the potential for a backlash.

The statistical data gathered by DSS included recipients of Supporting Parents Benefits, and in particular, those likely to lose that support in the next three or four years. The data would have identified anomalies such as the high proportion of beneficiaries in the Simpson area. From that it would have been a simple step to providing funding for and planning a special project. Then it would have been a matter of liaising with the resources in the area such as the Commonwealth Employment Service (CES), DSS and TAFE.

By the time I was briefed about the project it was almost ready to go. It would always have been a priority to use whatever professional resources were available. Primarily that was an Adult Education Project Officer from TAFE, a Social Worker from DSS, and me as Employment Counsellor representing DEET and the CES. Eunice from TAFE was the coordinator of the joint project. She briefed me on the aim and the details of the plan. DSS had supplied a printout of the names of sole parents in the area.

What she proposed was a mail-out to those in the target group, inviting them to attend a meeting in Simpson about the transition. The first public meeting was essentially to be a briefing one to explain the situation and how each of us may help them.
A date was set for the meeting, to be held at the Simpson primary school. The mail-out extended to single parents in adjacent locations such as Cobden, but the largest cluster was at Simpson. We did consider the transport access of all when they responded. Since three cars (CES, DSS and TAFE) were going, we arranged to ferry any of those without transport.

The meeting was to explain the transition. Our primary concern was to assure recipients that nobody was being abandoned, and that this change could represent an opportunity to improve their lives and their future prospects. All three of us spoke to identify the role of each and how we could assist.

Eunice, as the professional adult educator, spoke about the advantages of improving literacy and basic education through to computers for broadening the horizons. The DSS Social Worker assured them of income support for the transition period and beyond, as well as offering individual help for those with personal and hardship issues. I spoke about the opportunities for changing lives and expectations through education, training and employment (which in some cases would have included preparation for work and work experience).

All three of us had graduated using the opportunities provided for free tertiary education during the Whitlam and the Fraser years. In a sense we had that in common with our group. We had all entered as mature-age students and valued the opportunities presented. The meeting was essentially for information, but we must have conveyed some of our enthusiasm to the group. There was a high follow-up response to the meeting.

We planned a second meeting for just over a week later. This one was almost a whole day (with lunch provided). There were two segments to this one. Eunice ran tests to determine their literacy and education levels and current needs. Working around that part, I, together with a CES officer, interviewed all of them to register as unemployed. They needed to be registered to qualify for LMP assistance even though not claiming benefits. I worked with those not currently being tested, and later we reversed.

It was an intense day for the group and for those of us interviewing and testing.

We arranged a third meeting to inform them of the testing results, and of the CES programs assistance available. The results and the subsequent actions are worth noting (albeit I am relying on my memory). From the mail-out we had about 16 attend the first information day. Then we had about 12 attend the second full day for the testing and registering.

It was pretty near the same number attended the third meeting for the results and the recommendations on educational, training and employment directions. The results and recommended actions were very heartening.

Four of those assessed were either functionally illiterate or close to it. Another four had little more than primary education. A further few had a reasonable enough secondary education to consider higher education or TAFE courses.

The most urgent needs were for those with no or limited literacy. That was also the first geographic problem. The nearest accredited courses in literacy and bridging education were at Camperdown. None of them had their own transport. We overcame that by liaising with the Victorian Education Department.

I worked a deal where they were able to travel to and from Camperdown on the school bus system. It was unprecedented and we had to get written authority, but it was done. From memory, seven participated, including some from Cobden. Three or four of these were in the literacy group. The others were in the educational preparatory classes in basic computers and English. I believe there were a few group sessions that all joined.

I followed up with the Camperdown coordinator some weeks after they’d commenced. She was very pleased with their progress. All had made some progress in literacy and preparation studies.

She was very impressed with a Cobden lady, Jill, who at 50 was the oldest member of the group. Jill was illiterate but made great progress. Not only did she progress in literacy. In other activities Jill showed a real talent for art and produced some excellent work. She also had a great sense of humor and kept other younger ones amused and interested.

Jill had had a long battle over her life. Her husband was in prison, and apparently didn’t add much when he was home. Poverty and the struggle to raise children had taken their toll. Somehow she had remained positive. She was looking forward to life as her children grew up. Each had an individual story, but all were about survival.

That was encouraging from where we had started with the assessments and interviews. One did Year 10 at Cobden High, which her daughter was attending. Some others, a little more advanced in education, also had good outcomes. Two enrolled in TAFE vocational courses, which normally lead to work prospects. I was able to assist another two into voluntary work experience through the hospital at Cobden and the school. In each case, it eventually led to paid work when I offered the Jobstart wage subsidy to their employers.

So starting originally with a response of sixteen to our meeting, eight moved into literacy and basic education, two into vocational training and two others into voluntary and then paid work. That was a very positive response ratio.

The success might have been helped by our backgrounds as mature-age entrants into higher education. All three of us were enthusiastic about prospects ahead for them. We seemed to have an empathy with the group. The social networking has also helped.

In my professional role as an Employment Counsellor, I was expected (in addition to my case work) to complete at least two projects on special tasks per year. This easily qualified as an important one. Some months later I reviewed and evaluated the entire project and its results, which were pretty well as described.

I prepared a study paper on it for discussion at our bi-monthly statewide meeting of Employment Counsellors. It was very well received. I was very flattered that two other Counsellors asked me to send them all the written details, with the aim of adapting a similar project to their own regions.

What we achieved then was a precursor to a program eventually promoted by DSS and the CES called JET (Jobs, Education and Training). The aim of that program was to assist single parents into one of those pathways through Labour Market Programs and Educational Assistance.

It was about opportunity, and was a little broader–based than our project. Childcare assistance could also be included. The key to its success is, I believe, to convince them that it is an opportunity, not a penalty. It can put them in control of their own future.

If we can give them hope and show a way, they will achieve.

1,054 thoughts on “The Women of Simpson

  1. I would dearly love to believe that the J’aze thing is a gee-up. There is a reason why we picked normal names for our kids. Actually, plenty of my school friends are now parents, and they’ve chosen normal names too.

  2. Fiona,

    Jacobi it is.

    We have the books and I do not really care about the liberties.

    Cadfael was humbler in the books but the TV series are still rattling good tales.

  3. Ducky,
    I must dig out my DVDs of I, Claudius – or, if they are in Canberra, make sure my mother and I watch them when I next visit.

    Soooo looking forward to Livia’s wtte Green bile? I’ve never seen green bile before …

  4. Fiona,

    I did buy the One Clavdivs DVDs. They are still waiting to be watched.

    Care to come up and see me sometime?!

  5. Reporting in from Your Nation’s Capital. started raining around lunchtime and we have had 28 mm of wonderful quiet rain. The BOM got it right!

  6. The quality of mercy is not strain’d,
    It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
    Upon the place beneath …

    It’s been raining in Melbourne all afternoon and evening. We are approaching 20mm, and with luck by 9am tomorrow should have had an inch in the old money.

    I’ve just visited the Melbourne Water site for the first time in ages, to find they’ve rejigged it. Fuming. Finally found my way to the graph I wanted, and we are not quite at the level we were this time last year. How different would it have been had the state government not reduced the level of water restriction? And how soon will it before Victorians will be thanking their lucky stars for the desal plant? (One thing I couldn’t find easily on the site was how much the desal plant is contributing to the water supply. Now, why am I not surprised?)

    Anyway, enough from me. A busy day tomorrow, so goodnight all. And good luck.

  7. It’s very disturbing how the papers are using pictures of Abbott in looming, ominous angles. Very dictator-like. Reminds me a lot of Putin.

  8. If anyone is interested in watching something so far similar to watching grass grow, there is a live streaming on this The Age piece. I’ll be amazed if they can pull it off.

    LIVESTREAM: Costa Concordia salvage

    Salvage workers brace for a toxic soup of rotting food, chemicals and other debris as they try to rotate the wrecked cruise ship off the Italian Coast.

    http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-national/abbott-unveils-ministry-with-one-woman-20130916-2ttel.html

  9. Section 3 . . .

    MUST SEE!!! Alan Moir – what can one say about this one?
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/alan-moir-20090907-fdxk.html
    SNAP! David Rowe with a beauty. (Looka at Mesma and Bronnie!)
    http://www.afr.com/p/national/cartoon_gallery_david_rowe_1g8WHy9urgOIQrWQ0IrkdO
    Cathy Wilcox delivers Abbott a good kick in the groin.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/cathy-wilcox-20090909-fhd6.html
    David Pope also has a dig. (Look at Abbott’s formal attire and what’s above the fireplace).
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/cathy-wilcox-20090909-fhd6.html
    Ron Tandberg’s had enough already.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/ron-tandberg-20090910-fixc.html

  10. A good summary of the media influence. It wasn’t so much the Col Pot headlines that sunk Labor. It was more the accumulative impact of unrelenting negativity on News Ltd tabloids and hate radio. It cannot be separated from the Party internal wars, which at least regarding Rudd, were also fed by the media.
    http://thefailedestate.blogspot.com.au/

  11. Didn’t Julia say wtte that if you voted in a Coalition government you would just get a whole lot of men wearing blue ties. Quite prophetic really.

  12. Oh ‘ello…Paul Boungiorno has sat down and had a darn good conversation with himself and come to the conclusion that Abbott is a political genius!…..and Pyne has a great sense of humour…….?…..sales of Zoloft big in the Buongiorno neighbourhood chemist!

  13. Ita Buttrose….again demonstrating her brilliant wisdom in hindsight!….: one , two , three…: “WE TOLD YOU SO!!!!!”

  14. Truly..The new LNP. cabinet could be portrayed as a sit-com adventure, where the only “compus” member of a dysfunctional family ;Abbott.. has to herd and control the other continously fidgetty and wayward members of his little family group on a trip to the shopping mall…: “…here!, Julie…come away from those beads!…Joe!….put those donuts back!…AND PLEEEASE!.. one of you please get Chrissy away from that boy-scout shop-dummy before we ALL get arrested!….God!..where is that hired carer ?…”RupERT!!”

  15. Tony Abbott said he would have an ‘adult government’. Obviously he doesn’t think women are adults.

  16. So NOW he tells us!

    Mark Kenny starts making admissions, only AFTER the election.

    Before the election, Abbott promised voters (who, incidentally, could not have cared less) that as much as possible, he would keep all his shadows in place. The pledge not only ignored the under-performance of some, but denied the new government access to any new or returning talent.

    It was sold as proof of stability and continuity, but its real purpose was to keep the Coalition peloton tight and worked a treat.

    But it ran contrary to merit.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/merit-pushed-aside-as-host-of-factors-set-seats-at-table-20130916-2tv57.html#ixzz2f66ctnOc

    Earlier on he also informs us that this was OK, as the public couldn’t have cared less.

    Well, that makes it alright then.

    I wonder how many other promises will be deemed “couldn’t care less” and thus dropped?

  17. jaycee
    I think that will be Peta’s job. Abbott will be kept out of the spotlight as much as possible. He will be a figurehead PM, without any power or influence. He is already trying to condition us into accepting that with his remarks about not speaking to us very often. Abbott will be kept busy with bike rides and gym workouts with the chaps while someone else gets on with the business of government. Just who is going to be in charge is the interesting bit.

  18. All one can do, BB. is take the mickey out on them all…: First Abbott joke on his new cabinet..:
    “I regret and wish we had at least two women in the front bench…” I wish he at least had ONE!

  19. There was an interesting interview on the 702 Brekafast program with Ben Eggleton. Ben, from Sydney University’s School of Physics, will be giving the Einstein Lecture tonight on the topics of photonics and nanotechnology. He painted a picture of how the world will change dramatically as the result of the use of optics fibres. I’ll see if I can find a link to the lecture tomorrow.

    One thing that really struck me was that this lecture was being given the day after a Federal Ministry was announced WITHOUT a Science Minister, the first time for 82 years. It’s not just Physics but all the other sciences that are pushing the frontiers of knowledge out at an outstanding rate and setting the scene for important decisions to be made and the country hasn’t got a Science Ministry. (Nor specific departments for Aging or National Disabilities or Women nor any idea of policy on relations with our very near and very important neighbour, Indonesia.)

  20. Leone…It angers me that the MSM., having manufactured Tony, replete with ; Dresser, make-up person, voice training and language / speech tutor…now tell us he is a clever leader…..HE IS SHIT!…he is a dumb shit!…He is (perhaps) a punch-drunk dumb shit!…He’s not the messiah!, he’s just a dumb shit!….right..now write it out one hundred times!

  21. jaycee – one of you please get Chrissy away from that boy-scout shop-dummy before we ALL get arrested! 😀 😀

  22. He painted a picture of how the world will change dramatically as the result of the use of optics fibres.

    Conservatives – and Abbott in particular – don’t want the world to change. Hello 1950’s Australia.

  23. I really think there is an issue with Abbott’s mental health, others I have spoken to all say the same thing. He can barely put two words together these days. There’s a shot of him taken in the last days of his election campaign showing him wired with an earpiece, allegedly for communication with his team, I suppose, but also very handy for feeding him lines at pressers. Yesterday his cabinet ‘unveiling’ speech was woeful, he seemed to be making stuff up as he went along. Maybe his earpiece was malfunctioning. He muddled his words again, saying he regretted Sophie Mirabella’s ‘presence’, when he meant ‘absence’.

    There’s a radio interview with a young Tony Abbott floating around the interwebs. In this interview he is clear-spoken and coherent, he argues his case well, there are no mis-used words, very few ‘arrrghs’, he’s a young man speaking well in an off-the-cuff interview. The contrast with the Abbott of today is startling. Even the contrast between today’s stumbling, incoherent Abbott and the cabinet minister from 2006 is revealing.

    Something is happening to Abbott and it’s not good. I think we are in for a lot of subterfuge as his minders try to keep him out of sight as much as possible. I’m wondering if Abbott is going to be allowed to appear for QT or whether there will be excuses to explain his absence. I could be wrong, of course.

  24. The likes of Hartcher ,Sheehan, Gratten et al should be forced to sit through a replay of Julia Gillard’s ” misogyny speech ” daily. A lesson in the accurate assessment of the PM-Elect.

  25. What the world thinks of us – from Canada this time.

    “Australian leader appoints lone woman to Cabinet
    CANBERRA, Australia – Prime Minister-elect Tony Abbott has rekindled the sexism accusations that have dogged his political career by naming only one woman — Foreign Minister Julie Bishop — to the 19-member Cabinet that will be sworn into government Wednesday.”
    http://metronews.ca/news/world/796207/australian-leader-appoints-lone-woman-to-cabinet/

  26. And from the UK Daily Telegraph, an article by Aussie writer Van Badham. She says they asked her to write it.
    Van Badham ‏@vanbadham 10m
    .@feneleyandco they actually asked me to write it – the loathing of Tony Abbott transcends mastheads!

    “Why some Australian women loathe Tony Abbott – especially now
    If you think David Cameron has a ‘woman’s problem’, meet Tony Abbott: the new Australian PM who, among other things, said people should vote for him because he has “not bad looking” daughters. Now he’s only employed one woman to his cabinet, tensions are at boiling pot says Australian writer Van Badham.”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-politics/10313055/Why-some-Australian-women-loathe-Tony-Abbott-especially-now.html

  27. Well there’s your problem:

    [Alexis] is believed to have a criminal record there and to be a holder of a concealed carry weapon permit.

    The USA will go metric before they consider gun reform – and I’m not holding my breath for the former.

  28. I am waiting for the current Chief Scientist, Prof. ian Chubb to come out swinging. I know from personal experience that he does not suffer fools gladly.

  29. Leonetwo,

    I agree with your assessment of the “unveiling” speech.
    He appeared to lack any confidence and looked tired and drawn as if the compiling of the ministerial list was a task almost beyond him. He also gave the impression that he was apprehensive of the questioning from the press that he was likely to receive. Not what I would call a confident incoming PM.

  30. Not what I would call a confident incoming PM.

    He’s reached his life goal, and realises he doesn’t want it. His PMship will be chucked in the back of the drawer with his Rhodes Scholarship. It’s not too late to become Pope, Tony – repent!

  31. Leone’s Canadian link quotes Eva Cox, here is an earlier comment from her on Abbott when Julia was PM:

    As possible PM, Abbott is not feminism’s worst enemy. He is a somewhat inconsistent, confused conservative with the attached sexist views on gender roles, which he seems to be trying hard to minimise. He is not in my terms a misogynist.

    I know there are arguments that misogyny and sexism have overlapping meanings but I’m sticking here to the useful distinction between a view of gender as the basis for entrenched discriminatory differences, and those who have a pathological deep dislike of womenkind and an antipathy to what they may stand for.

    Abbott fits the first, but not the second category, and seems to have a wide range of female friends. How he copes with women in power is not clear as he is boss of his office and presumably has some say in his family, and has good female friends, but not bosses.

    http://www.evacox.com.au/node/50

  32. From memory (I may be wrong) Abbott was the first one to mention “misogyny” – PMJG then said that she would not be lectured on same…. and the rest is history! Eva Cox thinks she is the only one qualified to discuss feminism.

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