Hello Pubsters . I”m still in Cairns so this is a quick Friday Post.
I’m Sure all people on this site contributors and lurkers where saddened to hear of the passing of Fiona’s Mum. I only met her once and liked her immensely. We owe her and her husband many thanks for raising such a wonderful daughter.

On a Happier Note
ON THIS DAY
BK WAS BORN HAPPY BIRTHDAY

ALSO
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1992 The first exoplanets are discovered
Polish astronomer Aleksander Wolszczan announced that he found two planets orbiting the pulsar PSR 1257+12.
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1967 Dictator Georgios Papadopoulos assumes power in Greece
During his six-year reign, thousands of political opponents were incarcerated and tortured.
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1934 The Surgeon’s photo, allegedly showing the Loch Ness Monster, is published in the Daily Mail
In reality, the famous image depicts a toy submarine with a head and neck made of wood putty.
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1918 The Red Baron is killed
Manfred von Richthofen was a legendary German fighter pilot. He earned his renown and nickname by achieving 80 air combat victories in World War I. He was shot down and killed during combat at the age of 25.
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1509 Henry VIII is crowned King of England
In popular culture, the monarch is known mainly for his six marriages, two of which ended with the wife’s execution.
Births On This Day – 21 April
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1959 Robert Smith
English singer-songwriter, guitarist
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1947 Iggy Pop
American singer-songwriter, producer, actor
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1926 Elizabeth II
of The United Kingdom
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1864 Max Weber
German economist, sociologist
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1838 John Muir
Scottish/American environmentalist, author
Deaths On This Day – 21 April
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2016 Prince
American singer-songwriter, guitarist, producer, actor
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2003 Nina Simone
American singer-songwriter, pianist
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1946 John Maynard Keynes
English economist
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1910 Mark Twain
American author
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1736 Prince Eugene of Savoy
- As Anzac Day is next Tuesday I predict the Libs are going to ramp up the patriotism cry to high level.

- I don’t think it is doing them much good.
- Labor still ahead in the polls. YAY



After conflicting statements on “good”/”bad” foods (red meat, eggs etc.), I place dietitians into the same category as economists (Yes, Prime Minister):
Me too. I’d include any doctor who still makes a big deal about cholesterol.
High cholesterol is dangerous. Instead of taking high doses of Crestor, reduce your fat intake. It’s simple. And you’d feel so much better. High cholesterol makes me sleepy and gives me migraines. I reduce my cheese intake and I feel better. It’s not hard.
High (blood) cholesterol is a symptom, not a cause of disease.
Nina Teicholz at TEDxEast: The Big Fat Surprise
You could start a war over opinions on cholesterol.
HEAR YE HEAR YE
THE SA CHAPTER KNEES UP IS ANNOUNCED.
Saturday, 6 May 2017
in Kapunda South Australia.
If you have not received an email invitation by now, or would like one sent, please email my via
tuckerboxdog@hmamail.com and I will add you to the invitation list.
There may be an interstate visitor, but I will say no more in case they cannot make it.
PuffyTMD
And
other than patheticgood government starts when?https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/apr/22/labor-calls-for-12-month-delay-on-import-gst
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-dangerous-mental-illness-yale-psychiatrist-conference-us-president-unfit-james-gartner-a7694316.html
I wonder where the NEs, old and new, fit on this scale
4000 marchers and two lizards? (A Woma Python, and a Monty Python.)
The SA Chapter Knees Up has two new acceptances, and one is from a newbie to the Chapter. Tehehe, are we going to have fun with him or what?
Careful, Puffy, …
Thanks jaeger for that video from Zoe Harcombe on Tim Noakes acquittal.
As far as I know Tim is one of the advocates of the Banting health/diet program, which was started in South Africa by a group of sports and other medical scientists. In broad theory it is not dissimilar to the Paleo types of diets, which challenge the conventional strategies of the medical profession that the primary causes of heart disease are high fat/high cholesterol intakes.
Fat is one factor, but not necessarily the only one. They put a greater impact on carbohydrates because they believe that too many can interfere with the flow of insulin through the body. So they place a high emphasis on removing high carbohydrate foods from the diet. So things like potatoes, flour products (notably bread) are removed. Even rice is viewed the severe restrictions, and unlike Paleo they’re not keen on grains of any kind, even whole grain. Preferred oil is olive, but animal fats especially pork fat, are not regarded as taboo. This is probably what puts them at odds with most established medical diets,
It has been quite successful in South Africa where there is a semi-cult following among elite circles. My nephew (niece’s OH) is South African origin and was put on to it by his sister. He had a heart murmur despite being a health and fitness fanatic. It may be hereditary because his father died of a heart condition at 60. She urged him to try it, which he did. In 3 months he was tested again and had no heart issue. He and his family follow it. He put me onto it some years back after I’d put on weight from my struggle with cellulitis. Sim adapted recipes to it very readily and I lost weight. Incredibly it also seemed to clear up residual damage in my calf from the cellulitis.
We haven’t followed it literally for some months because of other things happening in my life. But we still have very little bread or potatoes, or pasta. It is not against carbs, vegies being a major component of the whole show. The argument is that we get enough carbs from them and the high-concentrated ones are unnecessary. There’s a lot online about Bantings and some real enthusiasts with recipes, especially in South Africa. But it is yet to meet the blessings of the health establishment, which is perhaps why that prosecution was attempted. Bantings advocates have not been able to get past the FDA requirements to be promoted in the US, where the big markets would be.
Thanks, GD!
I don’t follow a “diet” (Banting, LCHF etc.) as such, but I do try to reduce my carb intake.
Reading the fine print on the “Nutrition Information” panel is an eye-opener.
Did you know, for example, that Lindt Excellence Chilli chocolate is 48% sugar?!
http://www.chocolate.lindt.com/shop/excellence-orange-intense-1-1-1
“Fat” is not a dirty word:
I didn’t know it until a few months ago, but I’ve been following the Banting diet for three years now. My GP discovered I had insulin resistance and if something wasn’t done I’d end up with type 2 diabetes. A locum at my practice wanted to put me onto Metformin as what he called a ‘proactive measure’. I thought I could try a change of diet rather than just pop a pill with some rather nasty side effects so that’s what I did. My GP is very supportive.
I’d been eating what a dietitian would tell you was a healthy diet. Wholegrain bread, low-cholesterol margarine, low-fat everything, potatoes, corn, rice , pasta. It was the opposite of what I needed. Now I eat meat, nuts, eggs, vegies (except the starchy ones), butter, full-fat dairy and I cook with olive oil, butter and coconut oil. I’m supposed to eat fish, but I don’t like it so I leave that out. I avoid rice, bread, pasta, anything with wheat,and sugar and certain kinds of fruit.
And – my cholesterol did not go up with the increased intake of eggs, butter and all the other stuff we are always told to avoid. It actually dropped a bit, although it was always within the ‘normal’ range. My blood pressure has improved too.
I have a couple of other chronic health issues, diagnosed at around the same time, and the diet for managing them is also pretty much the Banting diet. The aim is to reduce and then keep down inflammation in the body, which is behind these problems. Things have improved with those problems too.
I fall off the wagon regularly, if I go out to eat I don’t worry too much about the diet. The occasional break-out won’t hurt me. I suppose i’m lucky, because I’ve never had much of a sweet tooth. That means I didn’t go through the sugar withdrawal cravings a lot of people have to deal with when they change their eating habits to something like Banting.
British power generation achieves first ever coal-free day:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/apr/21/britain-set-for-first-coal-free-day-since-the-industrial-revolution
Eww.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/22/mike-pence-in-australia-says-us-and-allies-ready-to-tackle-north-korea
SA Chapter Knees Up.
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Puffy.
Unless you already have my real email addy. If so use that please.
Did i mention gat t hotel is famous for being haunted?
Hard to keep them ghosts in their prisons,they keep escaping!
Escaping from their light bulb prison below:
and from their coffee cup prisons below:
Sorry,here they are escaping from their light bulb prison:
Carbs. Gawd i love carbs. Sadly i have to control my intake of them now.
Also , as Petula Clark advised………………….
Ms Atwood is 1000% correct.
Women who don’t/won’t realise how easily their rights can/will be removed are seriously deluded.
How can people not eat bread? The staff of life! With seeds on it it cleans your guts too!
High fat diets worry me—bowel cancer can be caused by high fat.
All this talk of diets—what about exercise?
My stupid sister cut wheat out of her diet “I feel bloated after eating it” so just a stupid fas. All the “gluten free flour” is not flour but 100% starch. She has a spare tire around her waist from this idiotic GF fad! Diabetes next I reckon. I am persona non grata as far as my sis is concerned so I will have to tackle her daughters about it at Naracoorte next week.
They will likely say I am being nasty but it is their Mum so I will see what I can do.
Fad diets aarrrgghhhhh!!!!
Puffy, I assume you got my acceptance?
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/04/22/the-french-ban-on-opinion-polls-came-into-effect-at-midnight-with-macron-still-ahead/
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39676947
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/04/21/the-trumpkins-turn-on-assange.html
https://icct.nl/publication/extremist-construction-of-identity-how-escalating-demands-for-legitimacy-shape-and-define-in-group-and-out-group-dynamics/
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39661339
Apologies to CK Watt, but I kind of want to share Bill Maher’s videos this week.
New Rules:
Monologue: The Slow and the Furious:
Overtime:
And I thoroughly recommend that peeps watch the whole episode for some good discussion on relevant stuff.
Well, actually there is something worse – Labor grovelling to Pence.
Kirsdarke
No wuckin my friend, I only wait till late to post so that they are there for the honourable BK to see when he logs on to post dawn patrol first thing, he spends so much time searching for stuff for us to read that I try to make it easy for him. He’s a hero and deserves to be treated as such.
Also I see that you have suffered from disappearing link disease l will look for another link for the whole show tomorrow. I’m reposting the links for the above reasons.
New rules and other stuff –
New rules – pt 2
Opening monologue –
Overtime –
Keith Olberman – for those who wish to watch –
🙂 I love bread. Real, freshly baked, yeasty bread – not the dreadful “white slice”.
I would *love* to be able to buy an off-the-shelf, low carb., bread machine mix to DIY at home.
There are “lower carb.” bread options; Herman Brot is the best of them, but difficult to source unless you’re in QLD.
Seed-based crackers and pizza bases are tasty alternatives – but expensive.
“Low Carb., Healthy Fat” is probably a better expansion of LCHF.
“High fat” is relative to “low fat” (high sugar) – and reminds me of James ‘erriot and “fatty bacon”:
Substituting a traditional “cooked breakfast” for “cereal” would be a great start; the problem is “time”.
I love thunderstorms – to a point. That point has been diminishing over time; climate change, or just older/wiser?
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20170407-in-1674-a-mysterious-storm-devastated-a-dutch-city
That was so interesting.
Good morning Dawn Patrollers. A very slow news day.
North Korea’s foreign ministry has lashed out at Foreign Minister Julie Bishop and warned Australia was “coming within the range of the nuclear strike”. What a wonderful world!
http://www.smh.com.au/world/north-korea-warns-australia-of-nuclear-strike-over-julie-bishops-comments-20170422-gvqg5e.html
A family court judge with common sense!
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/court-rules-on-parents-dispute-about-sending-their-children-to-private-schools-20170422-gvq68a.html
Amy Remeikis on Turnbull doubling down on his “Australia First” message.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/prime-minister-malcolm-turnbull-doubles-down-on-australia-first-message-20170422-gvqc6s.html
What’s going on with the Liberal Party and Kelly O’Dwyer?
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/vexed-liberals-move-to-dump-kelly-odwyer-while-on-maternity-leave-20170422-gvqajr.html
The French election could be catastrophic for Australia, delivering a greater local impact than Ms May’s almost certain landslide return to Downing Street and the continuity of Brexit.
http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2017/04/22/french-election-result/
Eight hundred mental health professionals have come together to issue a warning to the American people about the dangerous mental state of Donald Trump.
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/04/22/hundreds-mental-health-professionals-warn-america-trump-mentally-ill.html
Are Amazon and the AWU heading for a big stoush?
http://www.theage.com.au/national/investigations/unions-vow-to-take-on-amazon-as-its-harsh-reputation-precedes-it-20170422-gvq8nd.html
Deliberative democracy at work in Ireland.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/22/abortion-in-ireland-committee-votes-for-constitutional-change
Yesterday’s March for Science delivered some good messages.
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/thousands-march-across-australia-for-science-and-reason-in-public-policy-20170422-gvqbbo.html
Section 2 . . .
Adele Ferguson has a good crack at the cosy arrangement that ASIC had with the big banks.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/sweating-on-every-word–how-asic-massaged-the-banking-message-20170421-gvp9qt.html
A US Federal Court judge has given VW another hurdle to jump.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/world-business/us-judge-sentences-volkswagen-to-three-years-probation-following-emissions-scandal-20170422-gvq67b.html
Cathy Wilcox sums up Aussie values.

This bread issue – I promise this is the last thing I’ll say on this topic, but mentioning not eating bread really does seem to have upset someone. I need to explain.
I like bread. I just don’t eat much of it. A small loaf of bread will last me more than a week, maybe several weeks. I have to keep it in the freezer, I eat so little of it. I buy low GI bread and sometimes I’ll go for sourdough rye bread from a local bakery but I try to stay away from it. I know what it will do to my blood sugar and insulin and I know how I’ll be feeling a few hours after I indulge. .
Here’s the thing – I had severe asthma when I was a very small child. I was tested for allergies in the hope that would give some clues about what was triggering attacks. I was found to be allergic to house dust (that will still make me sneeze and wheeze) horses (no big deal, I have come in close contact with a horse maybe half a dozen times in my life without any allergic reaction) and the third thing was wheat. My parents decided that meant wheat in its natural state and that wasn’t a problem because I wasn’t likely to come in contact with wheat fields or wheat harvesting. I did though, many years later, I even rode on a harvester a few times. The dust and being close to .natural. wheat didn’t cause any harm. I eventually realised the allergy was in eating wheat – all my life I’ve had to deal with the consequences of eating more than a slice or two of bread, or a piece of cake. That has become worse as I’ve grown older. t’s not a gluten intolerance thing, gluten-free baked goods have the same effect. I can eat barley and oats with no ill effects and they contain gluten. It’s just the wheat, an over-reaction to the protein in wheat, I’m told. That over-reaction sets off inflammation in the body and inflammation is behind all my medical issues.
So don’t yell at me for not eating bread. I do eat it, just not much of it. I do like it, but bread doesn’t like me. Don’t accuse me or anyone else who says they want to limit their bread intake for medical reasons or to cut back on carbs or for whatever other reason. If someone says bread makes them feel bloated then they are probably right. Bread does that to me and I understand why. Some of usw ant to cut back on starchy carbs too, that’s OK. It’s a healthy thing to do. Let’s just accept that rather than yelling about ‘how can you not eat bread’.
We are all different, leone. I eat very little bread myself. In another post you had mentioned birds. Why can’t you give them a bit of stale wholemeal bread every now and then? They like it. And why should they die from it?
Why don’t I feed birds? Here’s why.
http://wildbirdrescues.com.au/feeding-native-birds/feeding-common-garden-birds/
My OH did not encourage the kids when they were younger, or the gran kids now, for the reasons in your article leonetwo. As well, she argues, it encourages the birds to hang around the backyard and poop on her clean washing hanging on the clothes lines.
My mother didn’t have a problem with wheat until we migrated to Australia, and it was several years before wheat in particular was identified as the trigger for a lot of her physical troubles. She and Dad went back to the UK a few years back and she discovered that wheat products in the UK don’t set her off.
We suspect it could be something in the micro-nutrients in Australian grown wheat that was causing the problem because UK or European grown wheat doesn’t have the same effect … and I’m starting to head the same way, which is really annoying as I like making and eating bread and now I have to restrict that particular pleasure because the side effects are not fun *sighs*
curioz
That makes sense to me. There’s a view that the increasing occurrence of coeliac disease might be caused by the strains of wheat we have now, as opposed to those our ancestors ate, so it’s likely the wheat in the UK is a different strain to Australian wheat.
There’s quite a bit of info out there on this, just google.
Some good points there, leone. I’m quite aware of them. All I’m saying is the occasional bit of bread won’t harm them. And if they come in winter only, I don’t believe they’re lazy. They’re hungry, mainly because they don’t find the food they used to find.
If I thought the birds here (there are a lot) were starving I’d feed them, but it would not be bread.
The birds around here seem to do very nicely foraging by themselves. There’s a fair bit of bush and a heritage vineyard and orchard across the highway, plus a lot of open grassy space. I suppose all that helps if you are a bird looking for a meal.The neighbours sometimes throw bread out for them but the birds ignore it and it ends up attracting rodents. The only birds that go for bread here are the ibis, and they haven’t been around for quite a while.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/22/activist-uganda-president-buttocks-jail-stella-nyanzi
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-21/how-a-handwritten-note-gave-erdogan-an-uncheckable-election-win
Jaeger
Coincidence … yesterday I watched a doco about the meteorologist who came up with the ‘downdraft’ idea, and then went on to prove it, leading to the development of ‘weather radar’ for airports.
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Far-right-activists-hold-barbecue-to-taunt-hunger-striking-Palestinians-488462
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-charged-making-threatening-calls-jewish-centers-210522755.html
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-21/afghan-ex-president-karzai-isis-tool-united-states
Fred – I think Karzai is a ‘tool’.
True dat but it takes one tool to recognise another.
Just a final point or so on the dietary issues mentioned. One benefit of the Paleo and Banting systems in challenging the conventions of eating fat and cholesterol-loaded foods is the attention to another racket in the marketing of ‘healthy’ foods. As jaeger mentioned, many boast about bring fat-free while quietly ignoring the sugar content of such foods. Sugar is potentially much more harmful than fats.
A thing I liked is that eggs (never really proven to be harmful to the heart IMHO) and butter (which is viewed as less harmful than artificial spreads, albeit olive oil and avocado are excellent alternatives), are part of the good guys. They can be consumed without feeling guilty.
Another good guy is coconut products. Coconuts originally got a bad press as the only vegetable fat to contain cholesterol, but that works on the assumption that consuming foods with fat and cholesterol will add to your own accumulation of fat and cholesterol. It’s not necessarily so, according to Banting research, because fats, minus the high carbs intake, can burn quicker in the body system. They view the flow of insulin more critical to both diabetics and heart condition people. So coconut oil is a very healthy product and the next best thing to olive oil.
test for link to bill maher whole show, new rules at 46:04 –
gorgeousdunny1
The problem with the Paleo diet is that its claim to be ‘Paleo’ is bullshit. That and Pete Evans 🙂 A recent article in New Scientist, will try and find, from a person in the ancient diet field said that the diet at the time was “whatever was available” and every region was very different from bulk fats to carb city. It changed often and rapidly as the post ice age changes marched on. Also mentioned some area where 10,000 years ago wild wheat+grains were very much part of the diet.
I think lots of variety and whatever is in season is the way to go.
An interesting read from Scientific American. The hard to argue with study showed that although “healthy fats” lowered cholestorol the people carked it at the same rate.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/records-found-in-dusty-basement-undermine-decades-of-dietary-advice/
That’s a great link thanks, KK.
I think your general point that some things work well for some people in some areas, and sometimes less so for others in other places. The Japanese heart rate conditions have been said to increase as their diet becomes more Westernised. Eskimos were observed to have few heart issues living on a diet loaded with whale and seal blubber, but there may be other variables, possibly unrelated to diet, at work.
I also found the Paleo view a bit romantic on mankind’s history. I was more drawn to the Banting one. Although it was inspired by a nearly forgotten character from Victorian-age history, it has been worked on by a number of sports scientists and others in South Africa. Their research seems pretty solid, at least to my non-scientific mind. Like the Paleo advocates, they have run into some quarrels with established dietary thinking.
Some signs from the march for science





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Excellent.
I want one of those t-shirts the lady is wearing in the last pic
For those who have been annoyed by this around the net (mostly on Fairfax) today:
Start with the original equatons:
x^2 + xy = 20
y^2 + xy =30
Adding the two equations together we can find out what (x+y) is equal to:
(x^2 + xy) + (y^2 + xy) = (20) + (30)
x^2 + y^2 + 2xy = 50
x^2 + y^2 + 2xy is the expansion of (x+y)^2, so…
(x+y)^2 = 50
Therefore:
x + y = sqr50
Now rewrite the original equations:
x^2 + xy = x(x+y) = 20
x * sqr50 = 20
x = 20/sqr50
and likewise,
y^2 + xy = y(x+y) = 30
y * sqr(50) = 30
y = 30/sqr50
Therefore, multiplying the two values together:
xy = (20/sqr50) * (30/sqr50)
xy = 600/50
Ta-da!
xy = 12 .... QEDWith
x = sqr8
and
y = sqr18
Home again and have no idea what agh xy=poliz mean but happy that others do
Boys went nuts for about 30 seconds that we are back then settled back in to normal life.
And, in a universe far, far away …
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/apr/23/rock-solid-peter-dutton-says-hed-like-to-be-pm-but-so-would-148-others
leone
Still about birds …
I’m not talking about the daily birds. eg the blackbirds, mynas, maggies, peewees. They get enough food without help. It’s the currawongs. They come in winter. They’re big shy, wild birds. They don’t come every day in winter; only when it’s very cold and raining. I don’t really think they like gardens. They come because they’re hungry. I feel that there is no harm in helping them out a bit. imo
A fair assessment
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/grogonomics/2017/apr/23/the-incredible-shrinking-malcolm-gets-even-smaller-spouting-australian-values
Funny isn’t it that so many words are written about Turnbull not living up to people’s expectations. Turnbull never ever deserved to be viewed as a moderate liberal or possessing the potential to be a great leader. I doubt that he was even a great lawyer/barrister in the time he spent working at that profession. He certainly didn’t show any talent when he was LOTO and his performance as an MP in opposition and a Minister in Govt was mediocre at best. The only talent he did show was his ability to destroy the greatest infrastructure project in our history, the NBN.
Insiders, this morning – Bazz interviews Dutton.
Dutton will not admit his rubbish about asylum seekers on Nauru sexually abusing a five year old boy was nothing but lies. Everything he has said has been a lie or a twisting of the truth, yet he is still sticking to his story even though the PNG police and witnesses on the scene say his version is not true. Dutton should already have been kicked out of the ministry for this, but Turnbull lacks the spine to do that.
http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2016/s4657481.htm
There’s a lot more, Bazz kept trying to get an admission out of Dutton, Dutton kept lying and refusing to give a straight answer. I read the transcript rather than listen to Dutton. I tried that and lasted less than twenty seconds.
Pototohead is a motor mouth bully. With him it’s either his way or the highway, he refuses to give an inch.
He refuses to release CCTV that clearly shows the kid waiting at the gates until someone gives him a bag of food and he leaves. At no stage was the kid touched or molested.