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Due to a variety of circumstances this will be be my last” Friday Raffle” post for awhile,and I will only be dropping in to say hello sporadically
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Things are looking good atm for us the good guys.
But still a few years to go so lets not be complacent.
Abbott is a grub and a liar
So a one term Tony /Lnp Govt. is a distinct possibility.
The winner of the raffle will be a Sat lotto Ticket till I can return full-time.
Our doggie mascots just because. ( Cant Find One of Cossie BB. Sorry)
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The fifth Wiggle is up now! 😉
How incompetent is Bronnie! Abbott’s slur to Burke was incorrect and unparliamentary. Burke objected to it, Bronnie overruled him saying there was no point of order, and then Abbott voluntarily withdrew. Then she had the hide to lie about whether she heard it or not! Firstly, how on earth could she have not heard it? Abbott said it loud and clear. Secondly, if she didn’t, why did she make a ruling that there was no point of order?
Never ask Abbott a question which contains two separate parts. He will only answer the least difficult one.
Bloody hell, I wouldn’t pay 20 cents for any of those garments – maybe Fridget wore her gift to a fancy dress party.
foreverjanice,
Halloween! 😉
The trouble with Burke’s question is not that it contained two parts; it’s that the functions were not actually against any relevant laws, they’re just a very bad look. Asking it is probably enough.
That said, he’s going her now a bit. She’s refusing to answer, based on some kind of ruling.
Are they attempting to set Falconer up. Third stunt this day, Something about being filmed on CCTV footage. Worth watching. Falconer ropable.
Burke isn’t letting up with his pursuit of the Speaker. He wants it referrd to the privileges committee.
Seems government using security cameras in the senate area to spy on Labor.
Hefferan back on.
Burke’s off and running now.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/26/cctv-spying-fears-emerge-after-senators-meeting-caught-on-camera
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/new-ama-president-to-address-alcohol-speeding-and-the-budget/5477082
Here’s the background on the CCTV thing.
You will have to scroll down to 12.42 pm.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/26/tony-abbott-faces-senate-budget-impasse-politics-live?CMP=ema_632
Maybe Bronnie’s pissed
Leaving Broomhilda not a skerrick of pride.
Debate now on Bishop and fund raising event Burke now on
Motion to send to privilege committee.
This is turning out to be not one of the LNP’s better days! 😉
May there be many more of them!
There was some tremolo in Bronnie’s voice today. It will end in tears.
Bishop now once again insulting Burke personally, Now we have Pyne. Pyne now bringing up Burke’s letter to Morrison. One that should never have been released.
This is a farce.
Time for Labor to walk out. This has gone too far.
Looks like it’s going to a vote. Refusing a referral to the Privileges Committee is very dangerous ground. Watch the msm go ape, not to mention twitter.
Bronnie not liking being ‘lectured on morality’ by Burke – she has just accused him of being immoral and she has done that from the Speaker’s chair. She just does not understand what a mess she is in or how she has created it.
If Pyney gets Bronnie out of this fix, it’ll be one of the more memorable moments of this Parliament
Pyne only knows one way and that is to smear, sneer & tell as many fibs as he can get away with.
I might as well go and put the bins out while Pyne is speaking. It’s sort of fitting. Pyne, garbage out……
In response to Burke, both Bronnie and Pyne are acting disgracefully. Bronnie reflected on Burke’s “morality” in an act that was clearly lashing out at being put under pressure. And Pyne started with an attack on Burke over that letter of reference.
I notice it’s not getting a lot of reaction on Twitter – at least not on my feed – so maybe it won’t go anywhere all that much. But it’s a terrible look.
Bronnie is gone now and it has all been her own work.
No way she can run Parliament in any sort of orderly fashion now that there is absolutely no respect for her or her biased rulings.
Pyne bringing the ex Speaker, Slipper in to support Bronnie. I thought Slipper used to be one of them.
There’s a bit on https://twitter.com/hashtag/QT?f=realtime
Must say that is farce. Time to also refer Pyne to the privileges committee. He knows that Burke wrote nothing wrong in that letter.
Actions not going to save him, or the speaker. Too much revealed in the senate hearings.
Gabrielle Chan is live blogging
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/26/tony-abbott-faces-senate-budget-impasse-politics-live?CMP=twt_gu
I wonder if Burke could move the same motion against Pyne now, that he just did with the speaker. Spreading lies must be parliamentary.
Didn’t know the mic was on
Pyne’s trouble is, that Morrison should not have released that letter.
Thanks Ducky. My Twitter feed usually explodes when something big is happening.
It is the duty of all MPs, when a constituents asks them to write a letter to the minister on their behalf, to do so. That is all Burke did,. He made no judgement about the issue or case. In this case was extra careful not to. The letter backs him up. One must ask about the ethics of a minister that releases such letters.
Morrison has no ethics, he’s a Liberal MP. The concept of ethical behaviour is totally alien to the lot of them.
Blimey! Poor old Bronnie is sure rattled now. And it’s all her own work!
If Rudd had left the indexation at what Howard brought in, single pensioners would now be $144 per fortnight worse off. What Abbott proposed is even worse than what Howard left. Yes, if one does not a least keep up with the cost of living, ones income is going down.
If we lose the concession card, and other supplements.
Burke now making personal explanation.
Letter in Telegraph was redacted.
Pyne trying to instruct Broomhilda on how to breach privilege. Bronnie completely flummoxed and resorts to her usual ‘there is no point of order’.
This article from my mother originally appeared in the “Riverlander” March 1958.
The author, Therese Hocking, who is now in her 86th. year, did the trip with her parents in the depression years, when work and money were very scarce. It shows the determination of the hardy souls in those times, those same conditions that a LNP. now govt’ wants to place on the shoulders of another generation
Row-Boat from Renmark to Mildura.
By Therese Hocking.
Have you ever thought of travelling by river? Not in a comfortable steamer, but in an open boat. My father and mother, my sister and I, tried it some years ago when we did the trip from Renmark to Mildura and back.
Our two-roomed canvas cottage that stood on blocks was exchanged for a rowing boat and a white tent. We rolled the latter, stowing it with only what was necessary, including a fortnight’s groceries, into the boat and left early one morning.
It was my job to mind my little sister, while mother and father, seated side by side, rowed the boat. Unfortunately “Mary” developed a love for watching things zig-zag down through the water out of sight. I am unable to remember how many odds and ends we lost this way until she tired of it. We then began to count the scarred trees out of which the aborigines had cut their canoes. On the lonely stretches of the river there often were many.
Posts for the tent were cut whenever we decided it was too chilly to sleep under the stars, or if we stayed a few days to fish or set rabbit traps. In fact, we travelled ‘Wagga’s way’, as we came to call it; because he was the only other person we met using a rowing boat for that purpose.
Wagga was the first, but one of the many characters we happened to meet. A big man, straight, in spite of sixty years, He had a huge, rounded beard as black as midnight. So was his big cat “Satan”, who sat on the prow of his master’s rowing boat and was the most ‘human’ cat I have ever met. Wagga always pushed, facing the front to row his boat, as he “liked to see the way”, He was a super-cook and used the native way to cook fish or wild game, straight from line or gun, wrapped in clay and placed amongst glowing coals: When cooked the feathers stripped off with the clay.
We first met him one evening when he rowed across the river to warn us that the side where we intended to camp was haunted. The story was that a woman passenger on one of the paddle steamers had wandered off while the crew were cutting logs for the boiler fires. She was never found. Her spirit, we were told, used to come back to that part of the river looking for the boat.
Mother is Irish, so we did not stay to find out the truth, but quickly crossed to the other side. It was here next day that a huge ram frightened us. Father and Wagga went off shooting and We other three sat on a fallen gum tree to drink in the surroundings. Suddenly mother’s sixth sense caused her to look round and there, not more than three yards behind, stood the ram. His curled horns looked really dreadful. We hastily and quietly withdrew to the boat and continued enjoying peace and wild beauty from there.
Between towns we met several families who had settled on the banks of the river. One that astonished us was the goat farm people. They were a big family and owned goats of every kind, size, sex and colour. They ate goats, milked them and used home-tanned skins for rugs and mats. We were welcomed like old friends. A huge meal was prepared for all and we thoroughly enjoyed it. I have often wondered how they never grew tired of goats, goats, goats.
Sometimes we never met anyone for days; there was just the never-ending scrub and the gurgling of the Murray River. Then, round a bend, a home stead would come suddenly into view. The people of the homesteads were mostly kind, giving us meat and often flour. In return father would solder their leaking kettles and things.
There was only one accident.Mary, running down to the water’s edge to watch a paddle steamer, cut her foot badly. We came to a homestead next day and the people there re-bandaged it. Not a scar was left.
We reached Mildura four days before Christmas, pitched our tent opposite the town and decided to stay a few days.
The next couple of mornings father spent in the township, trying to get soldering or other work. We others washed and cleaned every thing, giving, the camp oven a good scrub with the clean, white sand found at he water’s edge. Christmas was spent quietly, it was cool under the giant gums. Then it was decided we would go back to Renmark. In Renmark the fruit picking season was about to start and father had been promised some work. So we started back. It took six weeks to come up, and a fortnight to get back.
Bronnie should resign immediately, keep the last bit of dignity – if there is still some left – intact.
Burke says it was not redacted. “I have seen the original.”
I noticed today that members on both sides of the house kept talking over Bronnie. They took little notice of her instructions to rsume their seats or whatever. She seems to have lost not only control of the house but the respect of her own side.
In watching Finance Estimates, it is clear that Rudd’s biggest mistake once he attained office was to keep all the LNP appointed senior public servants in place & appoint ex-LNP Members to lucrative jobs.
This has backfired so badly in Labor’s face that it is not funny any more. ( Grech, anyone & we know there were many more like him left in place)
Next time Labor get back into government, they should immediately clear the decks & start off with a fresh slate!
Penny is going to town on this miserable mob who probably have as much responsibility for Abbott’s mob getting in to power as do Murdoch’s mob & their ABC.
So far, from what I have seen, the Public Servants lined up in estimates today resemble people standing against a wall, facing a squad with loaded rifles! 😉
The only journalist who popped up on my feed was Karen Middleton, complaining that the ALP didn’t raise any objections over Reza Berati in QT. The subject did come up, courtesy of Adam Bandt, but what’s a press gallery if it doesn’t find some way to hammer the ALP, eh? That’s it, though, they’re all very quiet over the Speaker.
On the face of it, it looks as if we’ve entered a new, rather more corrupted phase of politics. Refusing to allow a matter to be referred to the Privileges Committee is, I’m led to believe, rather rare. It’s tantamount to an admission of guilt. Bronnie will spend the rest of her term wearing that taint. But it seems to me as if she’s completely unaware of the implications. She just thinks it’s an attempt to ‘get’ her. If the CPG allow all that to stand with little or no comment, I think it’s fair to say the entire corrupt nature of Parliament has been institutionalised.
There’s a taint over everything. Manus Island has a massive stench of secrecy and sadism surrounding it. The budget is awful, barely defensible. The PM ought to be having his arse dragged over the coals over his daughter, and his wink went global too. The Speaker is hopelessly compromised. And that’s all before we get to the broken promises, of which there are plenty. It’s hard to think of a single minister right now who’s not disgracing their portfolio. Turnbull and NBN, Pyne and, well, everything to do with the environment really. Truss and anything to do with infrastructure. Mesma making a mess of international relations. Andrews – don’t get me started.
To top it all off, Albo tried to make a point about Pyne smearing Burke and got turfed out by Bronnie.
Every time you start to fear the LNP are getting somewhere with their stonewalling and tedious slogans, another disaster happens to them. They can barely get through a day without something major happening.
jaycee, thanks for that. I just had to to include your comment in the main text of my Last Post for PM Julia Gillard
I’ll also be including something from Letter-to-Bill-Shorten-Part-1.aspx/> Ad Astra’s latest post. A pity we have to wait a week for the second part. Let’s hope Bill and his ALP policy wonks at Central Office are receptive to all this sound advice they get from people like Ad Astra and Bushfire Bill.
As well, is all this potential growth and change only possible after the pain and heartbreak of the past year?