Well we are past the halfway mark till australia elects the party that will lead us for at least the next 3 years
MANY PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME WILL THE ELECTION RESULT ( WHICHEVER WAY IT GOES) MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO OUR FRIDAY NIGHT RAFLLES.
THE ANSWER TO THAT IS A BIG
WE WILL AS LONG AS YOU WANT HAVE
SO LETS GET STARTED. THE MAGNIFICENT CK WATT WILL( Hopefully) TAKE YOUR NUMBERS AND THE STAFF WILL BE AROUND AT SOMETIME.
OUR MAGNIFICENT BARMAID THE LOVELY
FIONA HAS BEEN BUSY BUT SHE WILL BE AROUND AT SOME TIME.
BB AND I WILL BE OUR USUAL
TONIGHTS POLL
TRY AND BE OBJECTIVE
THE PUB 
Oh shit!
“@MsHepburnley: It begins MT @CharlieKayeCBS: BREAKING. CBS learns Pentagon making initial preparations for a Cruise missile attack on Syrian govt forces””
Don’t underestimate stupidity. There are some (over the road too) who still see KR as a victim and JG as the evil witch. The difference in the personality and demeanour of could not be more pronounced. As I said, KR is a b’stard but he is our b’stard. He never has been a victim. Why people cannot accept that reality is beyond me.
BK
PM Abbott would drag us into that mess, maybe PMKR would too. But Abbott would be in like Flynn to emulate Deputy Sherriff Howard.
A bit more on Abbott being told to stop asking questions by Navy top brass –
‘Mr Abbott toured Australia’s busiest Naval port he asked several personnel for detail about Operation Resolute.
“Do you get out on those boats often,” he asked four Navy personnel at an outdoor staff canteen.
“So you guys were doing people smuggling patrols?,” he asked.
“What was it like to apprehend these vessels.”
After a pause they offered stilted answers including “it’s tiring”, “a challenge”.
“It’s busy,” said another.
While another said it was “Tiring work too, frustrating.”
At this point Lieutenant Commander Michael Doncaster stepped in and asked for the questions to stop.
“Sir I’d prefer we don’t talk on that line and move on,” he said.”
http://www.news.com.au/national-news/federal-election/tony-abbott-ordered-to-stop-asking-navy-officers-about-asylum-seeker-boats/story-fnho52ip-1226702829672
Abbott and Morrison didn’t take much notice of that polite request, they then went on to ask detailed questions during a tour of HMAS Maryborough known as Attack 3 of Operation Resolute.
Good morning everyone.
Slept for 8 hours straight, woke to deal with the call of nature, then back to sleep for another 2 hours.
Moi is feeling feline again.
Bushfire Bill,
Magnificent work with the vets!
Vote1Julia,
In case you missed my recent experiments with woofle dust:
And BK,
Superb selection of links (as always). Now, I know it’s a bit early in the day, but enjoy …
Good morning Fiona – pleased your batteries are recharged after you ran them down during the week.
Fiona
Why, thankyou so much!
And no, it is NEVER too early!
A bit more from Paul Keating –
“Former prime minister Paul Keating has accused the Liberals of being “mean little people” who lack the imagination to deliver the kind of reforms led under Labor.”
http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/libs-are-mean-little-people-keating-20130824-2shz4.html
test.
Thanks Fiona.
Tony “Bodoh” Abbott, the Indonesian fisherman’s best new friend, has all the fiscal discipline of a drunken over sexed cleric in a gay bath house.
Leone,
Unfortunately, what Paul didn’t say is that they do have the imagination to find ways of wrecking the reforms delivered by Labor. And they have the imagination to provide the feathers to line the nests of the rich and powerful.
Vote1Julia,
” .. . fiscal discipline of a drunken over sexed cleric in a gay bath house.
Yes, he’s spruiking how “I wanna be known as the infrastructure PM” but what we’ll get is the private space invader, the sleezy “kissing” PM
Good morning all.
That the Buy the Boats policy has not been ridiculed for the piece of comedy that it is; in conjunction with Saul Eslake’s scathing judgement of the LNP financial black hole really tells us all we need to know about the MSM in this country. Abject FAILURES; the lot of them.
Janice, BK, Vote1Julia,
Thank you, and it’s a pleasure as always. Oh, and V1J, please tell us what you really think.
Halloweenjack,
Abject failures? More and more I am seeing them as players who are actively and deliberately and delightedly colluding in the destruction of social justice and democracy.
Morning pub goers.
BK, thank’s for the links. I didn’t bother with the SMH article either, I get the jist from comments here so saved my blood pressure.
mmmm, is there a war warming up. Time for Rudd to shape up & show guidance. Abbott would just rush in. He loves tanks & ships & running around with soldiers. I wonder how he’d manage under fire? Maybe he’d tell them all to shut up.
Bloody Motor Mouth on his soapbox again. He’s naught but a lying mongrel – buy a leaky boat and send him off on the high seas.
This would have to be the most base election campaign of all time. Abbott, with the full force of News Corp behind him, is dominating, politics at its most cynical.
All his supposed “gaffes” I’ve no doubt have been orchestrated to deflect from the real issues and to deny the electorate the truth. And so easy with a compliant media all too willing to lap up the most trivial and superficial. Makeup-gate, “won’t he shut up”, Kevin Rude, ffs.
The buy the boats thing is just another deflection to deny Labor any oxygen. And the article in the SMH today where Abbott uses his classic and so fuggn obvious right-wing projection on Gillard, blaming her for bringing parliament into disrepute. You can’t get much more base and cynical than that.
We’re being played, not just by Abbott, but by our disgraceful media. C*nts!
Mikehilliard,
Sounds as if we might soon find out. Syria is a worry and the very mention of WMDs conjures up awful omens of Howard, Blair and Bush. Hopefully Obama keeps a cool head.
test
The Age Of Masochism
Agree on the “alternate reality” feeling. It’s weird. Up is down and left is right. Aggression is peace and Abbott is a statesman.
The low point was the Slipper/Misogyny debate.
Since then they’ve gone out of their way to isolate Abbott, coiff him up, calm him down and turn him into some kind of zombie politician.
You can see it in his breathing. Someone’s told him to do that.
So now it’s come to this. Abbott can go out an accuse Gillard of being the wrecker and the monster… and have a supposedly serious journalist in a supposedly serious newspaper write it up as plausible.
2GB joins in, with callers phoning and queueing to phone, saying how awful and nasty she was to that poor Mr. Abbott, who is a lovely man (and, according to the women, quite a hunk of a guy).
says Abbott, and it looks like the transition from Pit-Bull Attack Dog to Gentleman Tory, hard done by, attacked by harridans, hacks and fishwives of the Left will be complete today-fortnight.
The media goes along with it. They’ll have the NBN cancelled, clinging to their terminal business models for a couple more months than they would rightly have expected to.
The people are practically clamoring to have their Schoolkids Bonus cancelled, to see us return to the Stone Age on alternative energy and Climate Change abatement. They’re cheering that 12,000 public servants will be thrown on the scrapheap, that Medicare Private and perhaps Australia Post will be sold, and the ABC emasculated. They’re probably even giving the Cash-For-Clunkers boat buyback a conditional nod.
Nowhere else in the world is Rupert Murdoch taken seriously or even trusted, except here. The punters say they don’t believe what they read in his newspapers, but they act as if they do, which is all that matters. Rudd standing in front of a photo of Hitler – in a classroom dedicated to a History project on the Second World War – is depicted as a man with his campaign so decrepit, so disorganized and so poorly managed that he would let journalists catch him in a gaffe like that. No matter that it’s not a gaffe, in context. It only matters that the media can run the line that Rudd’s given up. Their proof? He should have realized they’d trump up a metaphor from a Hitler photo in a schoolroom. It even validates their “Hogan’s Heros” and “Stalin” front pages. If he let’s them get away with manufactured crap like that, his election pitch is in a shambles. It the politics, not the policies that matter.
We can’t have a man who can’t play the media game as PM. A mentoring Leigh Sales says as much in her promo for the ABC: “young journalists” should go on the campaign buses and try to capture a shoe malfunction, or someone tripping up some stairs and hang a “profound” metaphor off it for the 7pm News bulletin. Now there’s a serious take on what journalism’s about for you, from a genuine Walkley Award winner (who hates interrupting politicians, but does it because they avoid her hard questions, like “Are you the worst Prime Minister in history?”).
Yep, it’s a honkey-tonk parade alright. We’ve become used to voting on everything, to seeing scam artists and criminals as underbelly Good Guys, to conflating real reality with Reality TV, to the phoney “drama” of finals night on X-Factor, The Voice, Big Brother and now… Australia Decides: The Federal Election show.
Rudd has played along with it, and now it’s come back to bite him. Gillard never did, and she was destroyed, a beautiful tree that was never taken out of the pot from the nursery and allowed to put down roots.
Our society has become trivialized, and worse, prepared to act against its own interests so they can heckle someone they’ve convinced themselves is their “enemy” (and cheer someone they’ve convinced themselves is a statesmanlike, noble Prime Minister-in-waiting, hard done by, under assault from the dogs of the Left). Heckling is fun. Throwing rotten fruit at others makes people feel better about themselves.
The morning after they’ll wake up and feel good, and then get about their lives again, just like they do after the finals of Celebrity Dancing. For a few days things will seem all right with the world, but when it comes time to pay for their kids uniforms, the bonus won’t be there, the NBN will be stopped, we’ll have stopped serious carbon abatement and the retrenchment monster will lurch about the land.
When it comes time to import goods, and there’s a penalty levy imposed from abroad because we don’t do enough to seriously control our carbon emissions, we’ll just call them wogs. What would THEY know? We have the best economy in the world… oh wait… no we don’t… do we? I’m confused.
The boats will continue to arrive, or we’ll have a diplomatic row with Indonesia over it. No matter, they’re just dagoes, not like us (watch any TV commercial, “ethnics” are only in them as caricatures). We’ll send our honest police to mentor their corrupt police. That’ll go down a treat. We’ll go out into the villages and buy their fishing boats to stop the people smugglers and they’ll have to sell them to us, just like the PBO says they will. Indonesia is a place where you go to get wrecked and act in a way you’re not permitted to here.
Abbott says we don’t need other countries to help us with asylum seekers, to Stop The Boats. But just yesterday he preemptively announced that he’ll do the craziest deal in Australian history with Indonesia – buy back boats and send in the AFP to stiffen spines – saying we needed a regional solution in co-operation with our neighbours, and not one journalist noticed the 180 degree about-face. In Abbott World and Punter World, the truth is what it is today, not what it might have been yesterday. That was then. This is now. Love the one you’re with, baby. Look at the polls!
We’re a nation of rugged individualists. We don’t need the NBN. Only the “ant colony” nations of Asia (Alan Jones’ words) use stuff like that. We don’t want to be like them, working hard, innovating, exporting… we have our holes in the ground, which – when this temporary hiatus in the minerals boom is over – will resume delivering us the rivers of gold we’ve become accustomed to, taking us triumphantly back to surplus: a situation where we pay billions too much in tax to our government and (for some reason or other) cheer them for it. The surplus and what we pay in tax are not connected in any way in the Punters’ mind.
There are no consequences from the coming savage cuts and sell-offs at all. Services – the ones we personally depend on – will continue. It’s only the other guy – the bludger, the Lefty, the wog, the Muslim, the student, the lazy public servant and the tit-sucking scientists (who never did anything worthwhile) who’ll cop it. Greenland is a bowl. When its glaciers melt the rivers that result will flow inwards and make a great big new lake, with no effect on sea levels at all. Global Warming… solved!
Never mind the Budget Black Holes. Joe Hockey will find a way to plug them, after he’s given our young women their full salaries for six months to have babies, paid for with our share dividends, mass retrenchments and sackings, the educational needs of our school-age children, our pensions, our health and our government services. Why? Because Tony Abbott made a promise and he won’t break it, no matter what else he has to break to keep it. Conviction politicians with iron wills are what we need, not fluffs and numpties who change their minds when faced with real reality.
If a PR man can turn James Ashby into a hero, or Rudd into Stalin, or Gillard into Pinnochio, or Slipper into a Rat, or Murdoch into an Australian (dinky-di, mate), then a PR man can turn a paper moon and a cardboard sea into instant prosperity and a return to the good old days. Good PR can boost confidence. They know this, because they’ve been practicing the converse for three years: bad PR can ruin an economy that’s the envy of the world. And it is – in the Punters’ minds.
Jewish Nobel laureates like Joseph Stiglitz can come here and tell us we’re crazy to believe our economy is in ruins. Other Jews like Saul Eslake can tell Joe Hockey that his costings are shit. But Joe knows better. He can hardly wait to tell us the good news. But wait he will, until it’s too late to digest them. Not that we’ll care by then, anyway.
Whether genuine prosperity happens or not is unimportant. It’s what we believe, or what the polls tell us we believe. The media know this, because they own the polls, seed them, report on them and live off them as laundered, fresh data, scientific even, that tells the truth at all times.
The Great Masochism is about to begin where, before buyers remorse kicks in, we’ll be living in a phoney world that we make believe is real.
It’s the modern way.
Kr’s stern and glum face makes him appear more reliable or dependable. I’m sure it’s just an act, but it’s the correct thing to do given the circumstances.
I couldn’t be bothered reading that ‘Gillard started it’ thing. I have my blood pressure to think of and I don’t give clicks to garbage.
Abbott is demonstrating the behaviour of those who indulge in domestic abuse. Carry out violent acts on a woman then say it was all her fault. It’s far from the first time we’ve seen these things from Abbott. From his wall punching because a woman beat him in an election to his verbally abusing Nicola Roxon after that debate to the appalling way he has treated Julia Gillard for three years. It’s been a relentless stream of misogyny and hate and yet the OM just brushes it all off. What an absolute arsehole Abbott is. Ditto the so-called journalists who infest the OM.
I’m sure Tony will never forget and forgive Julia. She knew how to hurt his manly pride.
Had a bit of a cynical giggle at those Gippsdland farmers expense on the radio thismorning…complaining about fracking under their prime farmland…..really, I sympathise..but..London to a brick the vast majority voted the LNP. bastards in!..and now they reap what they sow!….”free- enterprise”, “economic rationalism”, market forces deciding”….and they most likely will do the same federally this time.
“You want it!..you got it!”…….but there’s more!
“Let those who can swim, swim.
Those who cannot….drown”………….LNP. philosophy writ large.
leonetwo
I think it was his sister who described Tony as being “The golden child” when they were growing up. I dare say that nothing ever being his fault would be natural for him.
I’m finding it hard to go over the road even for a quick look now. I don’t think the polls are worth the paper they’re printed on & how sensible posters there put up with the gloating Lib trolls amazes me. The ones that annoy me the most are the obvious LNP supporters who want to drill down into the finest detail in some sudo intellectual discourse with Bowe in between dumping in a really crude manner on every Labor supporter insight.
Sorry, shouldn’t vent my spleen here but this is a so much more pleasant environment.
You change the Government, and you change the country. We’re about to go back big-time to “me” and ditch “we”. Think I shall immerse in books,walking and good wine. I know for sure that I will be giving newspapers -in any form – a complete miss.
It takes a lot of hide to claim that it was Gillard who demeaned politics, not Pyne, Mirabella et al, or himself. It also shows just what lies he thinks he can put over on those who may not follow Parliament. But it is probably clever politics, as Labor may be about to turn the switch to negative.
Leone….agree.
We all know the fool ; Abbott is a manufactured product of the MSM. shaped, manicured, trimmed and presented as a saleable product, replete with manufactered slogans, whitewashed personality and past, and an entire team of PR. spin doctors to man the pumps and to row the boat!
The man is a fool….not clever, not a smart scholar, just a dopey fool who has the backing of a devious deviant who is having a laugh at the Australian public.
This election, and Abbott and the entire LNP. team is Ruperts idea of taking the piss out on Australia for no other reason than he can..and he’ll prove he can by “winning” this election…it is just a big joke to Rupert…his “tour de force” before he pases on,.
Well written BB, Leonie and others.
The morning press is dull and depressing, although here the sky is blue and the sun is shining. What comes to my mind are the ironic words that Browning put into the mouth of Pippa, the young silk-winder.
“The year’s at the spring,
And day’s at the morn;
Morning’s at seven;
The hill-side’s dew-pearled;
The lark’s on the wing;
The snail’s on the thorn;
God’s in His heaven—
All’s right with the world!”
They are in full sackcloth and ashes mode across the road, including a couple who have posted here. The expression “enjoying poor health” comes to mind. It’s disgraceful.
TLBD
Video footage of the scene has arrived.
The Courier Mail having a go at Abbott’s PPL and the ramifications for retirees and investors – who would have thought!.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/opinion-robbing-peter-to-pay-for-wealthy-paula8217s-premium-paid-parental-leave/story-fnihsr9v-1226703114005
Bridget O’Flynn @BridgetOFlynn 7m
Rudd talked about the seriousness of situation in Syria and Abbott’s talking about upgrading one leisure centre in SA. There you have it.
kaffeeklatscher,
Perzactly!
Just sent another complaint to the ABC about their bias low standard of journalism. They can add it to all the other’s I’ve sent them in the IGNORE file.
“…..The Great Masochism is about to begin where, …. ”
BB great post
And the punters like us that know about it and are standing and fighting rather than being prepared to live on our knees are not getting anything like a fair fight.
There hasn’t been any Marquis of Queensbury rules for 3 years.
BB – another excellent post.
I hope all Pubsters who are on Twitter consider linking Bushfire’s Great Masochism post.
It was a bit chilly this morning.
Coolum this morning
Leone,
The abbott says he’s not about to take time out from his campaign to go to canberra for a briefing – Julie Bitchop will get a briefing tomorrow morning and she’ll tell him all about it.
Joe6pack
I’m a bit slow on the uptake but getting back to my question of yesterday, can I drag & drop an image off my Mac desktop into the Pub comment box or do I have to link it from somewhere like facebook?
cute
Joe.
Is that near Stumers?
Mike
Try and do one from your mac.while i am here
One of the mods has to do a bit of magic to make it appear
foreverjanice
Abbott needs to wheel Mesma out to look like she’s actually doing something.