From last night, I read this across the road, in response to a comment I made on” metrics” versus “individuals”…
Sure, we’re not metrics as individuals, but it will be metrics that decide the result.
Exactly wrong.
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Polling metrics (which is what I was referring to) will never decide the result.
Only an election can do that.
I repeat: ONLY an election can do that.
Polls are not elections, especially polls three months out from an election.
I learnt that from believing Possum’s “100 seat” snake oil in 2007. Never again.
There’s a pre-campaign and an actual campaign yet to come, where the punters will be reminded of just how much they will be losing – services, infrastructure, cash, rights at work, good health, better education – by voting for the Coalition’s dry austerity policies and how much they have gained under Labor in the same areas despite trenchant opposition from the Abbott forces.
Knitting, fat ankles, manufactured gaffes, Abbott’s new-born SNAG image and Kevin Rudd will be unimportant.
“What’s in it for them” will be important, much more important than it is now.
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When you don’t like someone, in that Reality TV way of “not liking someone”, it’s easy to tell a pollster that and to kid yourself into thinking that you’re “voting” by telling some anonymous voice from a call center who you prefer, today, now.
It’s almost a purely emotional decision, in between doing the dishes or cooking dinner, or while you’re trying to find your keys.
But as the day for actual decision-making gets closer you look for reassurance that your earlier emotional decision was valid. You start looking for rational justification for your voting intention.
You ask questions. You expect the courtesy of an answer.
I’m not talking about everyone. There are rusted-ons on both sides, of course. they’ll always vote the same way. Perhaps they see current politics as part of a life’s continuum, just another opportunity, or round in the fight where a long-held view can be expressed.
I’m talking about the few per cent in the middle that make the difference in just about every election: the suggestible ones, about one in 15-to-20 people.
The coming election is an existential battle between Liberal and Labor, between the Old Media and New Media, and between poll results and election day voting.
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An entire industry has grown up in the past three years, centered around predicting essentially unpredictable events. We have seen more polling over the entire time – post-election, mid-term and now the final straight – than I can remember.
Yet, despite the apparent rude good health of the Polling Estate, it’s existence is in play.
We’ve seen more analysis, more polling companies, more contrasting methodologies than ever before. A lot of this is because the government was seen as being in danger of imminent obliteration – from defecting independents, to Rudd Comebacks, to No Confidence motions – so polls were taken as often as possible.
It eventually became a mantra that the government couldn’t possibly survive, based on poll results. And then the polls were somehow forgotten. The bitter message was distilled down to “She’s gone.” It became a self-justifying proposition or, (as I prefer to term it) a circle jerk.
But survive the government did. It’s gone nearly full term now and Labor is still in power, and Gillard is still PM. The analysis of polls that was claimed to show the government was doomed next week or the week after that was wrong.
There are a lot more knitters, it seems, than there are poll analysts or journalists.
Poll analysts were mocked, and rightly so. All their spreadsheets and charts were useless against the will of a group of individuals in government, and one particular individual who held it all together – the PM – to not only survive, but prosper, getting 600 bills through in vitally important areas of major policy.
The more the poll analysts were mocked, the more trenchant they became. Next time they’d be right. But they never were. Not once.
In the term “poll analysts” I include journalists working for an agenda-driven Old Media, plus chartists and spreadsheet junkies who claim to be able to predict the future. I’ve seen enough predictions of the future go wrong when it comes to predicting the longevity of this government to believe that no-one has a clue what will happen on September 14th.
So much has been so wrong, so often, that it’s pretty clear to me we are in uncharted territory (forgive the pun).
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Julia Gillard seems to drive people crazy.
She drives the media crazy because she won’t answer their gotchas and won’t do what they predict she will do. She openly mocks them, and they are ripe for mocking. Gillard is the living proof of that. For example, last night on Q&A they spent 25 minutes discussing her, and why she won’t just give up.
She drives the punters crazy because, while they are rabid and foul-mouthed, they can never get her to answer them in kind. It must be infuriating for the sexists out there every time she calls them out. Women are supposed to buckle under to threats and intimidation and their gender being slagged off by men. But Gillard just digs in.
Rudd too must be getting to the unhinged point now. No matter what he tries he can’t get her to hand power back to him. He will have to fight for it every inch of the way and he doesn’t have the resources or (in my opinion) the ticker.
Every fight he’s won in the party room he’s won it with a show of hands, the result has been pre-arranged. The last fight he won, back in 2006, was with Gillard’s assistance.
She knows all about Rudd’s tactics. She’s read his book. She wrote a lot of it.
Understanding his tactics so well she’s been able to stay one step ahead of him at all times, interfering with his chosen ground for challenging and his preferred timing, rather brilliantly in fact. Put up, or shut up Kevin.
You can see the venom in anti-Gillard and pro-Coalition postersaround the blogs. She infuriates them too. She just won’t lay down and die, like the political text book says she should. You’d think that if the Coalition commenters were so sure of the final outcome they’d be a lot less antsy.
In all of these instances the hatred and agitation Gillard engenders – simply by staying put and refusing to give in, by demanding that her enemies actually fight the battle, not just puff up their chests like so many territorial mountain goats, and in the meantime getting on with governing – is a product of their deep-down concern that she can win the election, that somehow the polls and the pundits – and themselves – are wrong.
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Gillard has made a hobby of confounding her critics. She has routinely and ritually humiliated them every single time. Where others waver, she stands firm, smiling her way through, doing her knitting like Madame Defarge at their executions.
Sure she can lose the election. I can’t deny that. But that’s a long way off now and 80-odd days is a long time in politics, for anyone.
Life, love and politics are about people, individuals, not spreadsheets. Gillard understands that. Perhaps she has no choice but to understand it. By continually making a mockery of her critics she infuriates them further.
Another Golden Rule then comes into play: it’s far better to fight cool than hot.
In the meantime, get on with your knitting.
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i don’t know so no predictions.
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This doesn’t sound good…
not feed the journalists. #AusPol pic.twitter.com/YyMPJ0ScyV
why bb
Shorten’s Supporting Rudd.
Shorten goes with Rudd
And Shorten can go chase himself too.
Shorten…you C**T!…..
Why is this always like this?…If Julia Gillard is out…so am I..I will not give my arm to a bunch of cowards!
Shorten with Rudd. What a dick.
Et tu Bill?
bloody shorten vicy was right
No! That’s it, I can no longer support this federal Labor Party, if Rudd wins.
Well, I guess that makes up for Mike Kelly.
And that they were right to lock him out.
Bummer, Shorten is backing Rudd. That is the biggest kick in the guts we labor supporters could get and if that termite wins, that is the end of the labor party for me. They will deserve to lose the election but we, poor buggers out here, will be paying the price.
After all Julia has had done and had to put up with, that bastard Shorten goes with her political assassin.
Agree with you Janice. Labor can lose now for all I care. Which they will because Kevin is going to get smashed.
The dirty little shit!…the dirty, dirty, dirtty little shit!…The dirty, low bastard…the dirty, dirty, dirty little shit!
dammit Shorten is/was somewhat of a hero to me. 😦
that’s it then all over , give abbott the keys to morrow
does shorten take member with him
what is worse is that PMJG will quit politics after this.
Whimpering little dogs..crawling little turds!….curse the coursge of the Anzacs you dogs and go away and die!
The only funny thing Annabel Crabbe has ever said:
myknittingwool myknittingwool @myknittingwool now
@billshortenmp we want for get u bill when abbott makes life hell its u we will remember good
Shorty has rolled. What a scumbag!
Truffles for PM!!!!
Puffy:
“what is worse is that PMJG will quit politics after this”
unfortunately and fortunately that will be the only way the party can move on from this and possibly win.
If Rudd loses here, God knows if he would actually stop destabilising the party. At least with Gillard, she’ll honour her ultimatum.
I’d suggest those being emotional remember one thing: our enemy is Abbott & the LNP.
Janice
You took the words right out of my mouth. Get writing on your blog please I need more of your great stories to read. Please. 🙂
What those lousy mongrels have forgotten is they are not the Labor party, we are the people that tread the streets for them, the people that go without extra luxuries to give them money, the people that are up early spouting their greatness and the people that are on the internet day in and day out defending them in the face of lnp trolls.
Well if the mongrels want krud then they can do it all themselve and f&ck them all
Annabelle on the Drum almost had an organism disbelieving that Tone cannot do anything except romp through to a resounding victory.
No, it’s not just about winning. There is absolutely no honour in this. The Labor Party can get stuffed for this election.
Suddenly the Drum panel discovers that polls are just polls, hypotheticals upon hypotheticals.
Who knew?
Where do these people come from?…gutless bastards…whimpering little curs…whimpering little shits…go on, you weak, lily- livered little cowards..curse the courage of all those who have fought for dignity and the capability to stand up to a fight and not lie down do die so swiftly like a dog in the manger…go away and drown yourself you filthy cur!
ii had a friend who worked high up in Canberra now retired, I ask him
some months ago if shorten would contest,,, he said he didn think shorten would have the number that he was not poular
just thought I would throw that in
What kind of organism? Bacteria? Amoeba? Vertebrate or spineless jellyfish?
The fish and prawns in the wine sauce were really nice. Couldn’t be bothered doing the asparagus.
Shorten’s a clever bastard: he’ll be leading Labor after the election if Rudd wins tonight.
remember Albanese voted for rudd last time not this time so let s see
Funny that the ex-Lib is more against Gillard than the rest of them.
This is how far the ABC has gone down the road to Perdition.
I just might get Julia to come round for dinner if she loses.
What can you say. It’s just a kick in the guts.
I wonder what Julia would do if she retired from politics now. She always said that foreign affairs wasn’t her passion, so she probably wouldn’t take up a diplomatic post.
For what it’s worth, JG will go down in ALP history along the likes of Gough.
Rudd will be a pimple on a bum
Julia could name her own job and her own price.
What a day to be offline.
To make matters worse, if PM Gillard bows out, I can’t even get drunk. Have to get up early tomorrow.
Rudd walking down the corridor with his supporters?
GeorgeBludger:
Seconded! Eye on ball, people.
Fiona,
I can … and will.
I’m not watching the dimwits on the TV so I’m hanging out here to hear the results.
It’s still not over until it is over. 15 minutes to imagine the egg all over the pundits faces.
Unfuckingbelievalbe.
George Bludger…” I’d suggest those being emotional remember one thing: our enemy is Abbott & the LNP.”
Wrong, George…so very, very wrong..the LNP. is just a symptom of the disease…they are the pus-head of all that is wrong with a socially concerned civilisation…the real fight is against the weakness that so easily finds a home in that fear in our hearts..that cowardice in our spirit…a cowardice that drives one section of society to oppress another..a cowardice that so easily cringes before the bully or the perceived terror of an overwhelming force…It is against these forces that the Labor Movement was first formed to educate, to amalgmate and to formulate fair and equitable social policy to help and elevate the working class to the level of dignity that we all know today.
To pander to the fear and cowardice of a trembling mob, is to surrender all that we hold dear to our beliefs!
If the Rudd faction wins tonight it will be purely out of fear and cowardice…and better we retain our dignity rather than sell our souls!