Thing that really bothers me is Rudd’s propensity to make wrong calls under pressure …abandoning the CPRS …and introducing the RSPT ..just months out from an election…
There is talk of him messing with the school-funding package …if he does F**K with Gonski …he’ll be history as voters overwhelmingly support & want it …
I don’t trust his judgement …at all đŠ
Spacey,
Which would make the contest for New England even more interesting.
Woops. ‘The well past years seem to meld together’.
My efforts to clear my UK civil service e-mail seem to have crossed the terminology line!
Fiona,
Tres interesting. It will be interesting if it connects to Abbott or his office.
CTar1
The first song that really hit me
CTar, Spacey, & BK,
Next question: will the wonderful Mr Windsor reveal what he has in his Blackberry? If so, when?
Fiona,
I had forgotten about that. I pray he does and I pray it is when it is most damaging.
Slightly Frenchy;
Fiona
The Blackberry may hold a nugget of political gold.
kaffee – 2525 is a classic: no question.
CTar1
Vote 1 Joan Armatrading đ
Gippsland Laborite
June 27, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Fed up.
The one thing that Iâm worried about is that Rudd will try to pass Gillardâs reform off as his own.
That’s a concern because he’s always been such a self-centred bastard. But I doubt Gillard will lose any sleep over it. Her commitment is to the policy, not to the glory. Besides, I’m sure she’d like nothing better than to have it praised as a government policy. If he tries to steal some glory it won’t matter if he can ‘sell’ the value of the program. And that was part of why he got the gig. I think Labor have just about written this election off. If he can turn it into a win with the quality of policy, and Abbott has nothing, I think a lot might be forgiven that could not otherwise.
The likes of Shorten don’t think it’s possible, but there is some quality and popularity among the programs. And a great economic and employment record against … what?
Main trouble is that he’s had such a mass evacuation of quality ministers.
BK – Today I saw a metallic Burgundy CM Valiant out and around.
I’ve noticed it around before hauling it’s butt away from the lights in Belco.
One of the ones at the end when the accessory bins got emptied.
denese..I can sympathise with your desire to “move on soon’..but I ask..: Who is going to hold their ground for decency and honesty?
We have to hold to some philosophy in this matter, or we all become “Ronins”…wanderers without direction.
Sure, we will all “move on soon”..But I damn well won’t go back to what those
traitors desire…With Whitlam, we all “moved on” yet the injury is still there, just below the surface…denying justice will not make the injustice go away. At the same time, I am not foolish enough to believe that anything I say or do will change the circumstances of the govt’…but it will affect ME!..it will affect the way I come to grips with the way my fellow citizens accept or reject the situation.
I refuse to just shrug off such behaviour as “Oh well, that’s politics today”..Not MY politics!…Not my politics…and I would hope ; not the majorities either.
No!…I will not “move on soon”..at least not until I see some sort of recognition of the treachery by my fellow citizens and some sort of justice for the crime!
I WILL stay on this possibility..I WILL stand on this principle.
CTar1
Yes the old CM.
When I first started work at Chrysler they were just running out the last of the S Series Valiant (1963) and launching the AP5.
gd the difference is we devoted ones know whats what
mr and mrs average and two kid s most likely want remember who thought of what when or where
we stress over things here that we notice that no one cares about
all I care about IS NO ABBOTT
kaffe
[Vote 1 Joan Armatrading ]
I know she scored a lot of points but I didn’t quite get what she was at.
denese..I can sympathise with your desire to âmove on soonâ..but I ask..: Who is going to hold their ground for decency and honesty?
We have to hold to some philosophy in this matter, or we all become âRoninsââŠwanderers without direction.
Sure, we will all âmove on soonâ..But I damn well wonât go back to
jaycee posted
=================================================
I have no ideas about that at all
all I want is NO abbott
===================================
did we say that when keating took over from hawke when hawke
took over from ( 3 months before and election}
the quite gentleman Bill Haydon I think he ended up being GG
=============================
did we say that in 2010,
did we say that when turnbull lost his seat by one vote
I was very up set when the Melbourne coach was sacked very upset
so it goes on and on on on and on
and was the cricket coach sacked heard something about that too
people just keep on being mean to each other no matter what we say or do
since adam and eve we ourselves have to try to strive above what we can when we can
I don’t really care all I want IS NO ABbOTT
and JGS achievement looked after
abbott will trash them and us
BK – It’s a quaint beast.
Hammering the 265 nose up the hill out of the Molonglo Valley on it’s way home.
The little blond woman driving it is into using it.
Mrs BK and I just watched the new River Cottage Australia. It started off very well and will give a very good picture of life in rural Australia to overseas viewers.
The Aussie in it is a dead ringer of Pat Cash.
CTar1
The CM Valiant (1982) was quite a reliable car from a warranty point of view.
I can still tell stories about many of the parts on them – the huge, ornate grille, the power steering unit, the plastic appliques on the steering wheel and dash panel, the rear axle and the Borg Warner auto transmission.
I am off to the land of Nodd. Sweet dreams Patrons !!
Doing the rounds of Twitter, this is good for a chuckle:
Goodnight, Space Kidette – sweet dreams of immensity and ineffability (of Space, that is đ ).
NormanK,
Ah yes, the ever-articulate(d) Mr Abbott.
Thank you for the best laugh all day.
Bonne nuit, mes confrĂšres.
BK – A sneak attack at a double lane right turn light with an up hill was planned. Two lanes into one in short order.
mine has 460 nm of torque – I watched from in front on the way up the hill.
It did charge once 40k or so was on.
Doing the rounds of Twitter, this is good for a chuckle:
IS that one of yours NormanK?
Whoever did it, it’s fantastic.
Patricia, I am glad I did not imagine what I saw. I have a lot of respect for Tanya. Remember her on that cooking show, where she proudly defended her husband, in spite of his early history.
Yes, maybe Rudd is the best solution.. Does not take away from Gillard, leavers her record intact.
Trouble is, that many that get to close to Rudd get burnt. First victim this time appears to be Shorten. Somehow, Albanese seem to have lost stature today. Macklin did not appear too comfortable.
We have two equals out there now fighting each other. Similar in every way. Neither capable of governing.
The only other choice would been someone like Combet stepping in. I do not think, another can take that poison chalice like Gillard did, and make a success of it.
Yes, it is a success to hold a majority government together, and implement so much essential reform, full term.
I will admit, the lack of ability of Abbott made it easier for her.
Gillard and Swan also held the economy together, more than that, the economy has continued to grow, find money for the essential reforms such as NDIS and Gonski to name two.
Still, politics at the end of the day is not about personalities, as much as some would like it to be, it is about the art of the possible. That was something Gillard proved good at.
Sometimes, I think that was because she showed little concern for public accolade or concern for what others thought. Just focused on what she set out to do. Maybe naively believing, that in the end it would be results that count.
Yes, Rudd can be used, if that is what it takes. I have a suspicion, that is all he is good for. He will be sorted out, when his use is no longer needed. Same goes for his opponent. Two peas in a pod, they are.
I have very little personal respect for politicians and many in the public light. Gillard is one of the very few.
PS Did not noticed any friendly looks between the new PM and GG.
THE PUB 
Thing that really bothers me is Rudd’s propensity to make wrong calls under pressure …abandoning the CPRS …and introducing the RSPT ..just months out from an election…
There is talk of him messing with the school-funding package …if he does F**K with Gonski …he’ll be history as voters overwhelmingly support & want it …
I don’t trust his judgement …at all đŠ
Spacey,
Which would make the contest for New England even more interesting.
Details http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/slipper-allegations-link-hockey-to-ashby-20130627-2ozof.html
Woops. ‘The well past years seem to meld together’.
My efforts to clear my UK civil service e-mail seem to have crossed the terminology line!
Fiona,
Tres interesting. It will be interesting if it connects to Abbott or his office.
CTar1
The first song that really hit me
CTar, Spacey, & BK,
Next question: will the wonderful Mr Windsor reveal what he has in his Blackberry? If so, when?
Fiona,
I had forgotten about that. I pray he does and I pray it is when it is most damaging.
Slightly Frenchy;
Fiona
The Blackberry may hold a nugget of political gold.
kaffee – 2525 is a classic: no question.
CTar1
Vote 1 Joan Armatrading đ
Gippsland Laborite
June 27, 2013 at 7:57 pm
Fed up.
The one thing that Iâm worried about is that Rudd will try to pass Gillardâs reform off as his own.
That’s a concern because he’s always been such a self-centred bastard. But I doubt Gillard will lose any sleep over it. Her commitment is to the policy, not to the glory. Besides, I’m sure she’d like nothing better than to have it praised as a government policy. If he tries to steal some glory it won’t matter if he can ‘sell’ the value of the program. And that was part of why he got the gig. I think Labor have just about written this election off. If he can turn it into a win with the quality of policy, and Abbott has nothing, I think a lot might be forgiven that could not otherwise.
The likes of Shorten don’t think it’s possible, but there is some quality and popularity among the programs. And a great economic and employment record against … what?
Main trouble is that he’s had such a mass evacuation of quality ministers.
BK – Today I saw a metallic Burgundy CM Valiant out and around.
I’ve noticed it around before hauling it’s butt away from the lights in Belco.
One of the ones at the end when the accessory bins got emptied.
It is in very good condition – someone loves it.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-27/slipper-calls-for-royal-commission-over-ashby-case/4785740
denese..I can sympathise with your desire to “move on soon’..but I ask..: Who is going to hold their ground for decency and honesty?
We have to hold to some philosophy in this matter, or we all become “Ronins”…wanderers without direction.
Sure, we will all “move on soon”..But I damn well won’t go back to what those
traitors desire…With Whitlam, we all “moved on” yet the injury is still there, just below the surface…denying justice will not make the injustice go away. At the same time, I am not foolish enough to believe that anything I say or do will change the circumstances of the govt’…but it will affect ME!..it will affect the way I come to grips with the way my fellow citizens accept or reject the situation.
I refuse to just shrug off such behaviour as “Oh well, that’s politics today”..Not MY politics!…Not my politics…and I would hope ; not the majorities either.
No!…I will not “move on soon”..at least not until I see some sort of recognition of the treachery by my fellow citizens and some sort of justice for the crime!
I WILL stay on this possibility..I WILL stand on this principle.
CTar1
Yes the old CM.
When I first started work at Chrysler they were just running out the last of the S Series Valiant (1963) and launching the AP5.
gd the difference is we devoted ones know whats what
mr and mrs average and two kid s most likely want remember who thought of what when or where
we stress over things here that we notice that no one cares about
all I care about IS NO ABBOTT
kaffe
[Vote 1 Joan Armatrading ]
I know she scored a lot of points but I didn’t quite get what she was at.
denese..I can sympathise with your desire to âmove on soonâ..but I ask..: Who is going to hold their ground for decency and honesty?
We have to hold to some philosophy in this matter, or we all become âRoninsââŠwanderers without direction.
Sure, we will all âmove on soonâ..But I damn well wonât go back to
jaycee posted
=================================================
I have no ideas about that at all
all I want is NO abbott
===================================
did we say that when keating took over from hawke when hawke
took over from ( 3 months before and election}
the quite gentleman Bill Haydon I think he ended up being GG
=============================
did we say that in 2010,
did we say that when turnbull lost his seat by one vote
I was very up set when the Melbourne coach was sacked very upset
so it goes on and on on on and on
and was the cricket coach sacked heard something about that too
people just keep on being mean to each other no matter what we say or do
since adam and eve we ourselves have to try to strive above what we can when we can
I don’t really care all I want IS NO ABbOTT
and JGS achievement looked after
abbott will trash them and us
BK – It’s a quaint beast.
Hammering the 265 nose up the hill out of the Molonglo Valley on it’s way home.
The little blond woman driving it is into using it.
Mrs BK and I just watched the new River Cottage Australia. It started off very well and will give a very good picture of life in rural Australia to overseas viewers.
The Aussie in it is a dead ringer of Pat Cash.
CTar1
The CM Valiant (1982) was quite a reliable car from a warranty point of view.
I can still tell stories about many of the parts on them – the huge, ornate grille, the power steering unit, the plastic appliques on the steering wheel and dash panel, the rear axle and the Borg Warner auto transmission.
I am off to the land of Nodd. Sweet dreams Patrons !!
Doing the rounds of Twitter, this is good for a chuckle:
Goodnight, Space Kidette – sweet dreams of immensity and ineffability (of Space, that is đ ).
NormanK,
Ah yes, the ever-articulate(d) Mr Abbott.
Thank you for the best laugh all day.
Bonne nuit, mes confrĂšres.
BK – A sneak attack at a double lane right turn light with an up hill was planned. Two lanes into one in short order.
mine has 460 nm of torque – I watched from in front on the way up the hill.
It did charge once 40k or so was on.
IS that one of yours NormanK?
Whoever did it, it’s fantastic.
Patricia, I am glad I did not imagine what I saw. I have a lot of respect for Tanya. Remember her on that cooking show, where she proudly defended her husband, in spite of his early history.
Yes, maybe Rudd is the best solution.. Does not take away from Gillard, leavers her record intact.
Trouble is, that many that get to close to Rudd get burnt. First victim this time appears to be Shorten. Somehow, Albanese seem to have lost stature today. Macklin did not appear too comfortable.
We have two equals out there now fighting each other. Similar in every way. Neither capable of governing.
The only other choice would been someone like Combet stepping in. I do not think, another can take that poison chalice like Gillard did, and make a success of it.
Yes, it is a success to hold a majority government together, and implement so much essential reform, full term.
I will admit, the lack of ability of Abbott made it easier for her.
Gillard and Swan also held the economy together, more than that, the economy has continued to grow, find money for the essential reforms such as NDIS and Gonski to name two.
Still, politics at the end of the day is not about personalities, as much as some would like it to be, it is about the art of the possible. That was something Gillard proved good at.
Sometimes, I think that was because she showed little concern for public accolade or concern for what others thought. Just focused on what she set out to do. Maybe naively believing, that in the end it would be results that count.
Yes, Rudd can be used, if that is what it takes. I have a suspicion, that is all he is good for. He will be sorted out, when his use is no longer needed. Same goes for his opponent. Two peas in a pod, they are.
I have very little personal respect for politicians and many in the public light. Gillard is one of the very few.
PS Did not noticed any friendly looks between the new PM and GG.
Woofle Dust, per favore! đ
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