Well Tragics, Xmas time is over and Pb will resume tommorow.
This little blog will not disappear,it will still be here with a new post every week or so and maybe more surprises.
It will be a haven for you people that wish to have a break from the argy-bargy of pb,and just want to have a bit of a chat.
Talk about Politics, Cricket,Tennis,Wildlife,Trucks,Aviation,etc, put up a you tube link or photo, whatever.
The overriding theme will always be the political scene in Australia and especially the 2013 Federal election.
The same rules will always apply
Treat other posters how you would wish to be Treated.
THE PUB 
Morning all. C@tmomma – the 2 blogs can exist side by side without falling into the trap that Frank’s place endured where exPB posters rubbished everything there but couldn’t stop reading it’ I’d hate to see that happen here as the intentions have been so good by Joe, BB, fiona and yourself. It’s resulted in good conversation over the past 2 weeks.
I think you should post the first 2 paras of your 8.50 am post (I can’t see numbers on my PC if PBX does have them). Others could read and make up their own mind about the moderation which I think was extremely fair.
BB, I respect what you have written but your writings are seen by a great many people on PB – I don’t think they should be deprived. I discovered yesterday that a friend is a lurker at PB and relishes your posts every day. He may come here to read them but many others may not. In this election year we need to get those posts read so that germs of light penetrate swinging minds towards the good guys.
Yes, the one whose name I won’t speak, is a pain in the butt at PB and the scroll wheel rattles around him and a few others, but it is a site worth participating in. The psephy bits, when they kick in this year, will be fascinating.
Went into the paper shop to buy the SMH for the tv guide and was surprised to see how this shop was run down – torn carpet, filthy, smelly, soiled walls inside and out, footpath unwashed – sure signs of a business in decline. Is it possible that they’re selling so few newspapers that they’ve lost all pride in their shop?
The Geek on twitter
@archiearchive @bionic_beer_gut @jot_au The LOLstralian calls this political reporting? The LNP Soap Opera Series of “Days of Our Lies”
Gigilene,
It is certainly the wrong era to be in the traditional newsagents’ game. The dead tree format is so passe, now you can read the digital publications online. You can read them without leaving your living room, let alone wandering down to the shops to buy a “paper” or even going out onto the front lawn to retrieve the rolled-up parcel.
Is Brian Carleton the name of the bloke who does ‘What the Papers Say’ on Radio National? See a tweet from him saying he’s finished in the media.
cuppa
You’re quite right. There is no need to buy any paper nowadays. I know I can have everything online but old habits die hard. Oh and I like to have the hard copy tv guide on our dinner table …
fiona – great article re the blind mice. Fingers crossed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20898935
BH,
Yes indeed – next stop macular degeneration?
Was thinking of James Carleton, of RN. Brian Carlton appears to have done a late night commercial FM talkback program.
it can but only if people stay here and dont go there
jump from blogg to blogg
bh
bh criss crossing does not work
till a blog is established
i know your a dyed in the wool pb
but people move on
i have certainly moved on
It’s not just the lack of buyers for newspapers that is hitting newsagents. We just don’t need them any more. We send e-cards instead of going to the shop and buying a dead tree card. We buy our lotto entries and lottery tickets online. We read online versions of magazines. We even buy our stationery online from sellers who beat the newsagents’ prices or we go to Officeworks and get a better deal and a bigger range.
We had three newsagents close in the one week here last year. One had been open only a few weeks. The business was relocated – probably in a vain attempt to fend off closing – from a very busy and central location with a lot of passing trade to a poorer, off the street location in a shopping complex.It didn’t work. The other two were the only newsagents in small shopping centres. Sad to see them go because it meant three families and some employees were out of work, but inevitable.
Denese
Please stop urging everyone to do what you want. Let them choose for themselves.
no not every one rubbished pb at franks
but thats done an dusted now
i suppose your worried about william and pb.
i would not , it want dissapear.
PB is a great blog. Or, at least, most of its commenting community are worth the time.
lizzie
i saw what happened at franks they came and went for a while
then the place never grew
will you also stop telling me what to post
llizzie
i am not harming any one\
its more an observation of what can happen
its remarks like yours that actully belong over there
i dont ever recall tell you what to post
Denese
You’re accusing me unjustly. But in a general sense you certainly do try to stop people posting about several subjects, such as catholicism, or forestry.
Julia Gillard is in Tasmania –
http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-national/gillard-receives-briefing-on-tas-fires-20130107-2cbwv.html
and here –
Abbott is still on his surfing holiday. Eventually he will catch up and fly over to ‘impress’ Tasmanians with yet another stunt. Probably something like his performance during the Brisbane floods where he showed up with a camera crew, pretended to help clean up for a few minutes and then left.
http://www.wabusinessnews.com.au/article/Todays-Business-Headlines-933
Skim the business (and other) newspaper headlines
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/12/crazy-military-jobs/
The 8 Craziest Job Openings in the Military-Industrial Complex
BY NOAH SHACHTMAN AND ROBERT BECKHUSEN12.28.126:30 AM
Andrew discusses Credlin & Ashby
http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/all-your-eggs-in-one-fridge.html
07 January 2013
Exit strategy
The Coalition had hoped to win the 2013 election with a series of stunts that boxed Labor into a range of narrow, unpopular positions while enabling the Coalition to basically cruise into office promising anything and nothing. Everyone in the Coalition has been devoted to that strategy and it worked, for a while.
Now the strategy starting to fall apart. The government is occupying more positions that are less unpopular and looking more like a government. It is in a position to challenge the Coalition to prove itself rather than being able to maintain the position that all politicians dream of: to have their words taken at face value.
http://theconversation.edu.au/printed-journalism-may-be-dying-but-books-still-have-a-future-10840
2 January 2013, 7.37am AEST
Printed journalism may be dying, but books still have a future
John Potts
Professor of Media at Macquarie University
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2013/s3665031.htm
GP’s the front line in reporting domestic violence
Alison Caldwell reported this story on Monday, January 7, 2013 08:18:00
ASHLEY HALL: There are calls today for all new GP’s to be trained to recognise the signs of domestic violence.
They’ve been prompted by a recent survey in Victoria that found family violence is the leading cause of death and ill health in women of child bearing age.
Currently, maternity and child health workers receive training, as well as police. But a leading academic says it’s now time to make sure all doctors recognise the signs too.
I’ve been outside and fed the worms, and myself. 🙂
Now I have come back to some spirited discussion in my absence(just to prove I wasn’t helping it limp along 😉 ), and might I say, Ian, thank you so much for the accolades(maybe 70-30 Bushfire Bill’s way : ) ). I just have these thoughts that race around my brain and the best way to get rid of them is to write them down., Then, I reason, the next best thing to do is to share those thoughts with others.
For sure I will be posting here for the rest of the year because I like to write original blogs, as well as discussing current affairs. So that’s what will keep me going here.
I’m also hopeful that we can keep posting away here without the rancour that accompanies PB around like a bad smell.(Am I too bitchy to say that I thought the reason Fran Barlow didn’t deign to comment here over the break was because she deemed PBX beneath her and the widespread national audience she feels her work deserves? 😉 )
Anyway, enough of that, as it’s not what this blog is about, nor why it was set up.
So I’ll just put today’s effort in to the ‘Teething Pains’ basket, ‘Keep Calm’ and Carry On’. 🙂
Thank you, Leroy, for continuing to post your links here as well as at Poll Bludger. Much appreciated! They are like constant injections of EPO to keep the blog alive and kicking! 🙂
Ian
Good to see you hear, and I look forward to your excellent comments.
Leroy
I was wondering if you would post links here, so glad to see you are doing so. I appreciate your selection.
Heard on ABC news at 10am mention of IVF story, but they made it sound like Labor criticizing Abbott……….so no changes then.
Thanks Leroy for linking Elder’s latest offering. Yet we have Mumble carrying on about Labor heading for the cliff under the leadership of PMJG and Swan
Just a couple of thoughts re this blog…
* Name: My suggestion is The Pub (The Progressives United Blog) ….For me the name encapsulates a relaxed atmosphere where peeps can discuss a range of political issues in comfort & in the knowledge that our ‘land-lords’ will keep us in order….
Also allows ‘tweeters’ to invite ‘followers’ to join in the discussion via links to ‘The Pub’ and any interesting posts therein…
* Competing with PB or other blogs …that particular issue never entered my head. Not an issue imo … Links to good articles & the lack of anger/angst on here will be an irresistible attraction for many progressives tired of the lies/spin/propaganda found in MSM and many R/Wing blogs. IOW …build a good quality product & they will come… & this is already a good quality product…
* Anyway time to make myself & OH some late breakfast/brunch as we did some early shopping/errands before the heat hits us ….again. Stay safe BK/Rummel …and everyone else 🙂
Yep, I’ve realised that I was wasting too much time on Poll Bludger, and that I’m ‘A Writer, Not A Fighter’! 🙂
So, with the limited time resources at my disposal this year I’m going to contribute as many original blogs as possible, and then cheekily link to them on Poll Bludger. 🙂
I may get around to making the odd comment on PB I suppose. 😉
I guess we’re all waiting with baited breath to see what Bushfire Bill says and does today, though, aren’t we? 😀
http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2013/01/07/3665161.htm
7 January, 2013 9:38AM ACST
Former CLP campaigner slams Government
By Clare Rawlinson
A former CLP campaign manager has resigned from the party, joining protests against the Mills Government budget changes and predicting a leadership challenge.
http://t.co/r9sXgIgJ (click google link, its in the Oz)
Glencore chief Simon Murray launches private navy to combat Somali pirate threat
BY: NICHOLAS HELLEN From: The Times January 06, 2013 11:55AM
BRITAIN’S first private navy in almost two centuries is being created by a group of businessmen to take on the Somali pirates who are terrorising an expanse of the Indian Ocean.
Its armed vessels – including a 10,000-ton mother ship and high-speed armoured patrol boats – will be led by a former Royal Navy commodore. He is recruiting 240 former marines and other sailors for the force.
C@tmomma,
Ummmm, who/what are you wanting to catch?
😀 😉
I agree with Elder on this.
Those who call for an inquiry into Ashby-Slipper are almost certainly wasting their time. Only rusted-on Coalition partisans and people with good memories for political ephemera even remember Slipper as being linked to Labor in some way. The more time goes on, the more Mal Brough and Mark McArdle and other LNPQ characters are implicated, the more it becomes a problem for the Coalition – and with every appeal, and every Anthony McClelland media stunt, that problem is highlighted. The government doesn’t need an inquiry to draw attention to the Coalition’s predicament, they will do it themselves.
And hopefully the AFP have something to say on this too
Bill should post his longer op-ed style posts here, as a separate article. They are easier to forward to others via email or twitter that way, and look more legit to others when you do, rather than sending someone comment number 356 or whatever.
He can still post a link to his artice on PB or elsewhere, just as Dan, Kevin and others do with their own blogs.
Apparently the PM was going to do a presser shortly in Tasmania
Markjs1
I love your suggestion P.U.B.
http://prestoninstitute.com/2013/01/07/glamazonianjungle/
Into the Glamazonian Jungle – Human Being Tony Explained
Posted on January 7, 2013
Yesterday, many people saw the article by Samantha Maiden in all the metropolitan Sunday News Limited papers about Peta Credlin, Abbott’s Chief of Staff, speaking of how nice her boss was. The criticisms were swift and brutal, as one can expect. The “MSM are Biased – Giving Abbott a Free Kick – Ashby Inquiry Now!” people were fast to scream across the day. As were the fact checkers, who did make some salient points. It is a curious article indeed and worth a deconstruction – if only to see how journalists craft a narrative. Maiden is a skilled writer, in that she emulates the styles she sees as important. This one shows that she could dash off an article in Women’s Day, New Idea or the Women’s Weekly very easily. It also shows, however, that Maiden is also revealing and possibly undermining Abbott’s obvious attempts to spin himself as Human Being and Friend to Women. The original article in italics, my comments in plain.
Another reason to love this place – PB has crashed.
Its getting close to midday, when everyone checks Crikey to check out the new lunchtime articles. Crash!
“Bill should post his longer op-ed style posts here, as a separate article. They are easier to forward to others via email or twitter that way, and look more legit to others when you do, rather than sending someone comment number 356 or whatever.”
leroy – good point because when I’ve linked them on twitter I get responses that locating them is not always easy whereas a separate op-ed here would make a good link.
Leone,
It’s all that unseasonal hibernation, you know 😉
Leone,
Well, it appears the shock was too much for Crikey Blogs:
Fiona, so it just me then? Didn’t take long
The last 2 paragraphs on page 5 and the first few on page 6, of this speech Tony Abbott gave to The Adelaide University Democratic Club in 2004 is especially interesting to hear his rationalisation, to a like-minded collection of Christian intellectuals, against government supporting abortion and other ‘Anti Catholic’ practices. And, yes, this is proof positive that he has said:
“The problem with the contemporary Australian practice of Abortion is that an objectively grave matter has been reduced to a question of the mother’s convenience.”
You can read it yourself if you want to get behind the facade of Tony ‘I Like to Hide My Light Under A Bushell’ Abbott:
Click to access 04mar16_ethicalresp_politician.pdf
I think I’ll have more to say on this speech in the days ahead…When I have time. 😀
fiona,
… waiting with baited breath …
Ummmm, who/what are you wanting to catch?
Not Halitosis I hope. 😀
markjs1,
You’ve got my vote for ‘The P.U.B.’
Seeing as how I can’t drink in real life, due to being on my Zero Alcohol Limit Green P Licence, I may as well get my virtual refreshment here. 😉
Markjs1
Inspired name and I would hope from your keypad to the ears of the moderation Gods’.
I have just spent a pleasant afternoon in the saloon bar of Joe sixpacks’ friendly pub.
Having cold beer listening to the recitations of Bushfire Bill. You know him. He’s the bloke, with the reserved stool, down the other end of the bar. Sometimes he just sits and thinks, t’other times he sits’n’speaks. But most times he sits, thinks and speaks and most of us listen. Mind you, we don’t always agree with what he’s said, but we listen. When, on occasion, the bar supervisor..C@t Momma joins in the atmosphere becomes jovial. What with the gentle click/clacking of pool balls from the game between Puffy and Mari, the satisfying thunk of yet another dart, thrown by Victoria, hitting a bullseye. Leroy Lynch bursting in every so often and updating us on both race results and formguide. Denese hustling around replacing coasters, scolding at the spilt drinks and delivering the odd clip around the ear to those who swear too much and too loudly. It’s been good.
I think I’ll hang out for a while.
macca51 is really Ian
Yes, I agree that Bushfire Bill should put up his original blogs here as separate posts which we can all discuss, and which can be easily linked to throughout the blogosphere. I agree that they can sometimes lose their strength when overwhelmed by either negative sniping from the usual suspects, no matter how well they stand out from the pack, or the fast-paced warp and weft of Poll Bludger itself.
Anyway, I hope Bushfire Bill agrees, but, at the end of the day, it’s up to the great man himself.
Ian,
So what is moi doing? Purring under the aircon?
Ian,
Brilliant! And what role will you play? ‘Guy in Blue Singlet, shorts and thongs, who regales all present with his dry wit’? 🙂
i would like to ask the moderator of there
if he feels more could be done to stop
the repeated pasting
so no i am over it,
you can say what you like .example i scrolled by one of my posts that
wasnt my post,
i was not going to allow that to be, posted that i had posted it
to late all i could do was post that i didnt post what ever as it had been in cluded in lines of re pasting
i am not happy to take that risk again and i want
i bet u anything there is one person who would of mentioned this site today
ihave not looked and i am not going to
i dont want to know about endlesss ,,,,,, polls either
fiona,
So what is moi doing?
‘Ms Chatelaine’?
Noun
* A woman in charge of a large house.
* A set of short chains attached to a woman’s belt, used for carrying keys or other items.
well may be there is a message there then.
i had not noticed ,the crash
my say,
I don’t think anyone here is too concerned with re-pasting your posts. We can read them quite well the first time! Then comment about them. 😀
However, as far as polling goes, well, in an election year, much as we might find it distasteful, it is an important metric. So discussion about them will no doubt ensue.