Xmas is over

Well Tragics, Xmas time is over and Pb will resume tommorow.

This little blog will not disappear,it will still be here with a new post every week or so and maybe more surprises.

It will be a haven for you people that wish to have a break from the argy-bargy of pb,and just want to have a bit of a chat.

Talk about Politics,  Cricket,Tennis,Wildlife,Trucks,Aviation,etc, put up a you tube link or photo, whatever.

The overriding  theme will always be the political scene in Australia and especially the 2013 Federal election.

The same rules will always apply

Treat other posters how you would wish to be Treated.

 

343 thoughts on “Xmas is over

  1. tweets between me & Archie

    me- Your blog NQR. Credlin didn’t write the articles, she didn’t claim Abbott didn’t make that “easy” comment, the Journo did.

    him – From the feel of the article, this is a rewrite of a private release to SM. I assume SM did no checking, just rearranged words.

    me – that’s your opinion, but its unprovable. Seems to offer a free kick to anyone who wants to have a go at your piece

    me – I just think the blog title needs altering, the find/picture itself is great

    him – OK, I have added a question mark to the title *evil grin*

    me – cool

  2. thanks to Joe6pack, Fiona, BB, and C@tmomma for this lovely blog. it really helped over Xmas to have my fellow travellers and dare I call you my long diatance friends, hey like pen-pals, to talk to.

    I will be going mostly to PB but with keeping in touch her and at Politcal Animal’s great site. And the Daily Derp, and Twitter, and my lost dogs Facebook page. And I am trying to finish Reginald Hills book, Death of Daziel. I need 4hrs in a day.

    But I have a make-up exam on 9 February and over the next four weeks I have to watch 40 recorded lectures, and memorise heaps of crap to be ready, so you might not see me anywhere much for the next month.

  3. Thanks for the all those associated with this blog. It did just the trick for us PB refugees! I hope it stays going, I will check it now and again.

    Interesting to see Maiden defending Abbott re the easy way out. Did she actually research whether he had said their remarks, or did she take his or Credlin’s word for it?

  4. I haven’t seen the weekend spread, but every photo I have seen of Tone and Peta together makes me think they should get a room.

  5. “Acerbic Conehead,

    Which will mean the Assumption of Tony …”

    Indeed, TLBD, a big assumption on Tony’s part.

    Moreover, he’d be stupid to attempt a Resurrection, as the old “souffle doesn’t rise twice” adage would kick in.

  6. 50 minutes max for each lecture. And I have seen the first 20. I just had to pull out half way through the semester after I did the major assignment.

    It puts a completely new meaning on cramming for exams. 🙂 😆

  7. It’s worth the 10 minutes to absorb the message John & Yoko are trying to impart to us all in that You Tube video before we go back into the fray again on Poll Bludger.

    Let me just say this. I, for one, do not value Poll Bludger so much that I will spend the rest of this election year putting up with bemused’s persistent baiting and sniping. Life’s too short, and Poll Bludger is less of a positive experience when he spends every day dragging the place down into the mud.

    I don’t know how many times I have tried to reason with the man and to make him see the enervating effect he has on Poll Bludger, but to no avail. So we know he has been a member of the ALP since Ben Chifley was in short pants. That doesn’t make him a more authoritative source of opinion than any of the rest of us who comment there. Nor the ultimate arbiter of our opinions. Somehow though he seems to think so and cannot, and will not, be shaken from that assumption.

    Frankly, I don’t know what else we can do, except get into the same quasi cross between virtual verbal domestic violence and the Stockholm Syndrome that that man seems to relish perpetuating.

    Anyway, I don’t need it, and now we/I have another avenue for discussion of politics here.

    I’m like gravel, I don’t need it. I don’t need to be constantly confronted by Field Marshall bemused.
    Fran is bad enough, but at least she is a one woman band banging out a tune that you can understand. bemused, he’s supposed to be on ‘our’ side, but he siphons off the energy that we should be using to fight the Tories, into slanging matches, that go on and on and on, day after day after day, for no real reason, just a catalogue of imagined slights that he cooks up and keeps coming back to, like the eponymous dog with a bone.

    So, I’m going to give it my best shot at Poll Bludger again. However, I am not so polite, as fiona is, that I will just keep swallowing hard on the tripe that bemused may want to keep dishing out. If he keeps it up, I’m out of there and you’ll be able to find me here. Talking to gravel, and putting up the odd original post. 🙂

    Over and out. End of sermon. See you tomorrow I suppose.

  8. I am setting this up for an email for every new blog post. That way I won’t miss them.

  9. sprocket
    Revealed. Tony and Peta’s little secret. Who can spot their mistake?

    No lemonade to make Abbott’s shandy

  10. “Revealed. Tony and Peta’s little secret. Who can spot their mistake?”

    No mango butter……..for the goat.

  11. cudchewer,

    { Damn, I’ve had so much fun holidaying I haven’t managed to say much here 🙂 }

    I can assure you that you get in far less trouble that way! 😉

  12. Well, signing off for now.

    Many thanks to Joe6pack for organising the site.

    And to BB, fionajr, c@tmomma for thread postings and moderation. And to all fellow tragics 🙂

  13. ABC24 has Sir Garfield Sobers at the National Press Club. He’s really speaking well.
    I knew Garry very well during his times in Australia in the 60s and 70s.

  14. Isnt it interesting that Abbott never uttered one word in his defence after the speech? Not even a puff piece in a News Ltd spread. I find this really strange.

    And is no surprise at all that Maiden made that error. The question is, did she fact check it herself, or take Peta’s word for it. I say the latter.

    I’m suprised that even the Murdoch lackey’s are giving away such freebies as Maiden did. Did they flatter her and convince her she was getting a real exclusive? Do these journalists actually realise how biased they are? The interest in Gillard’s past lawyering but not Abbott’s past punching, the interest in Slipper pre-court and post-court. Surely they can see how biased they are, but are doing it to please their boss?

  15. PVO on twitter

    Who’s next? Tony Abbott’s cleaner (so long as it ain’t a bloke) telling us what a great guy he is…I mean seriously! dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/…

  16. About the argy bargy on PB. Call me nuts but I appreciate it, One thing that attracted me was the rigour applied by PBers. I had to think about what I posted and got challenged on stuff. I in turn challenged others.

    That lead me to rethink stuff due to information or pov from others. or really clarify what I was thinking by defending my point of view.

    If anything has changed on PB it is that aspect. People, including me, are too quick to go all personal. They defend their person instead of the argument or attack the other person instead of the argument.

    Sometimes I do no pursue an argument because I worry the other person might take it as personal.when I just do not agree with someone’s point of view.

    There is also the tendency to round and round in circles for days because somehow ‘winning’ by repetition and attrition are mistaken for frank and robust exchange of views.

    So here is to thicker skins, and less arrows.

    So I hope 2013 takes us back to robust exchanges, friendly discourse and for the progressives on these blogs, a good year of fighting and winning against Tories,

    Gentlemen and Gentleladies, start your engines, the race about to begin.

  17. C@tmomma
    Have you got stfu? If a commenter is really too much to take, just block them, even if just permanently, I got sick of an un-named bludger always using rendition in relation to Asylum Seekers. it gets me so angry I put ‘rendition’ in the stfu list. When i saw some of fiona’s (I think) posts blocked I opened them up to see ‘rendition’ of music pieces mentioned. 😆

    It is modern technology, so use it to your advantage. 🙂

  18. Peter van Onselen ‏@vanOnselenP
    Reading about the Dutch East India Company…very interesting history. It’s a rare translation 1st written in Dutch by Professor C.R. Boxer.

    The here and now of Ashby and Rares is obviously too close to home.

  19. PTMD,
    I know about stfu, but we haven’t needed it here. 🙂 Also you know bemused is there so much, that if you stfu him, 2/3 of the blog disappears! 😀
    Also, as you probably realise, because he is an equal opportunity slagger, and lately especially towards Bushfire Bill and confessions, that means that what they write refers to him, and I don’t want to stfu them! 🙂

    What to do?

  20. Catmomma.
    STFU only blocks the poster not the replies so you still see BB etc. you can put people on and off of it. you still see their names and then you can choose to open the comment or not. I have a couple of real bridge dwellers there, including the restauranteur. Not that he has bothered for a long time.

  21. Puffy,

    I agree. I have a few drinking friends who are ideologically Lib (generally the Turnbull variety – which is a policy difference to Abbott) and we enjoy the debate. I like people who are Lib supporters, and say so, and argue their case.

    What bores me are people who get bogged in personality to the point that they will disregard the policy they claim to support to a 2nd order priority.

    I actually quite like Kevin Rudd… and have said so often on PB… the only time you will find me saying anything narky about him is when his fans are happier white anting the ALP in the hope he will returned… and don’t seem to care about policy.

    I am centre left politically, and I generally support most ALP policy… to the point of barracking… but getting Carbon Pricing and the NBN etc is more important to me than the person who is PM at the time.

    People who claim to support a policy, and then aid the people opposed to the said policy, are tedious and disingenuous.

  22. C@tmomma – you could just ignore him. Sorry and with all due respect, but when he throws out a general snark you are often one of the first to weigh in.

  23. I use stfu very sparingly as I do not want to not engage with other pov including Liberals. But hey, if something is driving you nuts, take control!

  24. On twitter

    As the master, PJK, might have posited, ‘today the Credlin Bunker turned the dial to vaudeville.’
    #auspol pic.twitter.com/wXIj6g4I

  25. well i dont like argy bargy
    and i dont like my posts being pasted all over the place
    on each page by some one i have not even conversed with

    ive seen it out of context ect. and i am just not prepared to take the risk any more of my posts that whre not my posts being thought of as my posts lol if you know what i mean

    so i take the quite life here of chatting and reading and learning

  26. “http://imgc.classistatic.com/cps/blnc/121127/239r1/8430afc_20.jpeg

    Revealed. Tony and Peta’s little secret. Who can spot their mistake?”

    Sprocket,

    The fridge should be as empty as Tones’ wallet after the introduction of the Carbon Tax?

  27. Revealed. Tony and Peta’s little secret. Who can spot their mistake?”

    Peta let Tony out of the zoo?

  28. i am up late looking at the fires service there is fire i am watching on the northwest coast where i have family
    and now oh has just walked in lounge and told me our old friend jiust
    lost their 40 year old from diabeties

    who sister died a few years ago they where twins
    and the family of the young man friend of our son .his sister in laws
    family lost their home yesterday in fire
    and we think we have worries.

    should not have told you any of this
    sorry

  29. ps i dont want to envolve my self with any libs

    so looks like im stuck on my own,
    after tonight i think its best to do things you love,
    so into the garden for me and all the other stuff i do.

    how can two familes take so much in one calander year

    soo live i say,, spend time doing what you want ,
    not talking to not nice negative people

    come here for a yarn then off to what ever you like

  30. the fire i am watching is at mountumana

    its not far from my cousins farm spent so many wonderful summer holidays there on my own
    at the moment is only on watch and take care.

    ps i wish our son had waited till the morning to tweet all that to us

  31. Leroy Lynch
    Ignoring is the way to go. Most definitely. There’s no point trying to have the last word. Why bother with huge diatribes in response to some idiotic post when you can just cut off the oxygen by ignoring them completely. No-one reads all the arguing back and forth anyway, it’s all just scrolled past. As for a certain person insisting on reproducing entire posts – ignore that too.

  32. My Say,

    Don’t tell me you don’t like a bit of argy-bargy 🙂

    That’s democracy, we have to accept that people given the same facts will have different solutions. I wish I could apply that to the people on PB who annoy me… but the really annoying thing is that on policy they mostly agree with me.

  33. To Be
    “I am centre left politically, and I generally support most ALP policy… to the point of barracking… but getting Carbon Pricing and the NBN etc is more important to me than the person who is PM at the time.”

    I totally agree, ALP supporters don’t help out to put any particular person in a well-paid job as an MP or PM or Minister etc, but to get Labor into Government to implement to social policies we believe in. I have lived in different electorates over the years and have supported the Labor candidate in each of them.

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