Election 2019

Well Pubsters here we go. After many tears and years we have finally arrived at Election time. 2019. Contrary to polls for years this will be a close and nail biting time .

The bookies are all saying Labor are a shoe in and in my experience and to my bank balance are very rarely wrong

All starts from now on and updates  will continue .

Lets have fun and hopefully celebrate a labor victory on Sunday Morning.

With The Boss’s kind permission, I am adding links to Gippsland Laborite’s and Vote 1 Julia’s analyses here, in case anyone wants to refer to them.

NSW: https://pbxmastragics.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/new-south-wales-2.pdf

QLD: https://pbxmastragics.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/queensland-1.pdf

SA: https://pbxmastragics.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/south-australia-1.pdf

TAS: “https://pbxmastragics.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/tasmania-5.pdf

VIC: https://pbxmastragics.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/victoria-3.pdf

WA: https://pbxmastragics.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/western-australia-1.pdf

ACT: https://pbxmastragics.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/act-4.pdf

NT: https://pbxmastragics.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/nt-4.pdf

Independent and minor party candidates: https://pbxmastragics.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/federal-seat-1.pdf


701 thoughts on “Election 2019

  1. I have met Joe6Pack and found him to be congenial. He is a very effective operator who set up this website as a hobby.

    I have enjoyed visiting & contributing to this site and would like it to continue.
    This site has been special because there have not been personal attacks against people.
    It’s a shame it has started now and has been directed at the founder

  2. Announcement to all Pubsters and Lurkers

    Joe6Pack has just transferred ownership of The Pub to me.

    I am truly honoured, and will do my best with the help of all of you wonderful people.

    Thank you, Joe, for everything. The XXXX will always be available at the bar.

    • That’s wonderful news Fiona.

      Thank you again, Joe6Pack, you set the tone for the Pub from the beginning, and it has remained a place where differing viewpoints can be discussed courteously, often with relevant references to follow up, and most noticeably where, like friends, Pubsters support each other through difficult times.


    • Congratulations, Fiona!

      And many thanks to Joe for setting up and running this site (with a little help from his friends) so well for so long. I’m sorry a few people disagreed with him over the ‘blame Queenslanders’ thing. While that is often a gut reaction because of the high volume of demagogues originating from there, it is far too simplistic to blame it on that. I agree with Joe that the whole point of democracy is about the freedom to vote in what you believe are your own best interests, which is what they did. But they were not alone anyway. Labor lost some of its traditional base in the outer suburbs of the capitals. This should not have happened if they had been communicating effectively on the advantages of supporting Labor. So Labor stuffed up somehow.

      I am not discounting the appalling bias of the media and the misrepresentations of our opponents. Labor always has to live with a handicap of this type, albeit this one might’ve had more $$ than most.

      The upside, as Billie mentioned, is that things are going to get very dangerous economically (bad news considering the hardship it will bring) and one in which the coalition, who’d already proved unfit to govern for the nation, will be unable to shift blame to anyone else. So there’s every chance with some adjustments they’ll come to power in a landslide.

      Again, best of luck, Fiona and friends, and thanks and good wishes to Joe.

      PS: I’m working on a story, still to finish, which I may submit soon.

  3. Wonderful news, thanks Fiona. I will always think of joe6pack and what a wonderful thing he did for many of us by setting this site up.

  4. Many thanks, Joe, for setting up this page and funding it for so long. Who would ever have thought a site intended as a Christmas holidays fill-in would last so long.

    Congratulations, Fiona, excellent news.

    • Just what I feared though, a coronation.

      Now I’m kind of hoping Fitzgibbon runs. I’m not sure whether I’d vote for him but Albo should at least have to justify why he should be leader.

  5. Thanks to both Joe and Fiona.
    Probably more in a way to ease some of my frustrations, I’ve compiled a short list of things that I hope will start a campaign to debunk the myth that the Libs are better economic managers that ALP.
    I’ve got most of my info from google.
    I’d really like help from everyone who can add to this list.
    I’ve been thinking about this for a while but was motivated by an article by Stephen Koukoulas who argued that in fact ALP should have campaigned on the economy


    If we can get a reasonably simple but compelling document together I’m going to email it to all ALP MPs and Senators just as a reminder maybe every 6 months.
    I think by letting the idea of Libs as better managers pass through to the keeper we are allowing them so much latitude to tell lies and use as a campaign basis .

    So I’ve copied and pasted my starting point.


    1. In 2018 the average wage was $82,436 per year. Over the 12 months of 2018 wages had risen approximately by 2.6%. This is 1.5% lower than the yearly average of the previous 10 years

    2. Tax to GDP ratio. In very basic terms how much tax is collected as a percentage of the amount in dollars a country has produced over the year. Maybe think of it a bit like income.

    1996 – last year of Keating 21.9%
    Howard years – 23.6%
    Rudd / Gillard – 2008 – 21.7%
    2009 – 20.2%
    2010 – 19.9%
    2011 – 20.8%
    2012 – 21.4%
    2013 – 21.3%
    Turnbull 2018 – 22.5%

    Who are consistently the biggest taxers?

    3. Electricity Bills. Remember Abbotts claims ALP would increase power bills?
    Last quarter average electricity bill in 2013 under ALP was $773.50 which equates to $3094 per year.
    Last quarter average electricity bill in 2018 under Libs was $884.92 which equates to $3539.68 per year.

    4. Today approximately 1.8 million Australians are unemployed or under employed

    5. In 1970 the average wage was $3,822 per year. The Sydney median house price was $18,700. In other words the cost of a house was 4.89 times the average yearly wage.
    In 2016 the average was $60,502. The Sydney median house price in 2016 was $1,124,000. In other words the cost of a house then was 18.58 times the average yearly wage.

    Cost of housing may not be a reflection on the ability of a party as economic managers. But consider that in the 49 years since 1970 the Libs have been in power for 28 and ALP for 21.

  6. A second task I’ve set myself is to try to keep a running tally, sort of ready reckonnner of Morrrison’s promises, events and thoughts to try to keep track.
    Again this is my start’ and again could all Pubsters contribute so we can monitor them and not forget

    After 18/05/19
    • 09/05/19 Reported in Daily Telegraph Morrison pledged to reduce power bills by 25%
    • Election 18/05/19 Libs win
    • 21/05/19 Libs say tax cuts to be put off until next year
    • 22/05/19 Manildra announces importing grain from Canada
    • “And Leigh, they’re not cutting interest rates because the economy is doing well. Interest rates are being cut to 50-year lows because the economy is struggling,” the shadow treasurer said on the ABC’s 7.30, having already described rates as being at “emergency levels”. Joe Hockey 2013.
    • The 3 points below from Tracey West Lecturer in Behavioural Finance Griffith University
    • “prospect theory” – that the pain a person feels from a monetary loss is greater than the pleasure felt from a monetary gain of the same value.
    • Our ability to pay attention to two or three things at the same time is much more limited than we think. We tend to be selectively inattentive, screening out information we perceive as unimportant, and preferencing information that confirms existing views…..Labor went another way – burying voters in an avalanche of policy prescriptions. Arguably it overestimated how much people would absorb, and diluted focus on a few key ideas
    • People place a higher value on the short-term over the long-term….Say, for example, you were offered a choice between taking $150 now or $160 in four weeks. Most people would take the $150…..So Labor faced the problem of it promising to deliver benefits that might take decades to pan out, such as transitioning from fossil fuels to renewable energy, while the Coalition was offering immediate tax cuts and cheaper energy prices. Many Australians, we can imagine, preferred the more immediate benefits to the longer-term ones

  7. The refugee/asylum seeker topic has all but been abandoned by the media since the medivac legislation was passed. The topic did not get a mention from either Labor or the Coalition during the campaign. It’s almost as if the media and most politicians believe that one, restrictive piece of legislation fixed everything.

    It most definitely did not,

    FauxMo said repeal of that legislation was going to be one of his first acts when parliament finally sits, The two surviving CA senators have said they will not vote for FauxMo’s repeal, saying they voted for the original bill and are not going to change their minds. now.

    As it seems there will be only 6 non-Greens cross-bench senators now. Based on the estimates of the makeup of the Senate, the government will need 5 of the 6 to vote with them to pass their legislation, assuming the Greens vote with Labor. The government now has no chance of getting their repeal bill through the Senate.

    Morrison faces roadblock on refugee bill

    How good are Senate roadblocks!

    • Queensland’s looking worse with Labor looking set to lose one of its two senate spots to the LNP. If that happens then their majority combination will be the two one nation senators, Bernardi and either one of the CA senators or Lambie.

  8. Sorry, another biggy I forgot.

    The Liberal-National Coalition won the federal election on September 7 2013. At September 30, net debt was A$174.5 billion (meaning that net debt rose by about A$5 billion per month in the three months before the 2013 election). As at July 1 2018, the budget estimate of net debt in Australia was about A$341.0 billion

  9. Now I’m kind of hoping Fitzgibbon runs. I’m not sure whether I’d vote for him but Albo should at least have to justify why he should be leader.

    Ignore what I said, there’s a chance that Chalmers may run, fingers crossed.

  10. Just to confirm was Gippy Laborite said.

    • Hopefully the factions won’t nobble him like they did Bowen and Plibersek.

  11. I’d just like to add my thanks to Joe for running this site for the many years and putting up with us. Thanks also for the raffles, the Friday frolics, the well stocked bar and the many posters and commenters we have lost over the journey.

    I hope all yours horses cross the line first and you give them bookies a licking.

    Also if we don’t see the magnificent BK for the tireless effort he puts in every day.

    Well done to Fiona, leonetwo and tlbd (aka the duckster, aks monsieur le canard)

    The pub continues on in good hands so lets fight the good fight and hold our heads up –

  12. Hello Pub people. Come to the NT. It is almost as if Scrott and his theocratic spivocracy does not exist. See y’all next week😎

    • Nah, I am moving to Tassie 🙂 🙂

      Next year I want to stay there late Sep–mid December. Two and a half months, visit the Salamanca Market in Hobart, visit the west coast, the Tarquin etc. And work on the block. And plant the last of the fruit trees and some understory plants like red and black currants.


  13. Examples of turkeys voting for Christmas –

    Announced before the election, the farmers still re-elected Nats.

    This item is from last Friday, it had no influence on the turkeys.

    Gas exports blamed for soaring electricity prices and job losses

    And here’s one for the Queensland government which is preparing to give Adani final approval, and for all those people in NSW and Queensland who voted for Hanson and her ilk because they feared for their mining jobs –

  14. Frankly at this point I hope the Adani project goes ahead, at massive cost and minimal benefit to Queensland. They voted for it, they deserve it.

    • Yes.

      Adani is just the gate-opener. Once that mine is approved then the others planned for the same area will also go ahead. Clive,Gina and her Indian partner will be delighted.

    • Kirsdarke,

      I understand only too well how much you are hurting. We all are, in various ways.

      I do ask, however, that you lay off Queensland. Out of respect for the residents, who were subjected to a deluge of propaganda.

      And very much out of respect for Joe6Pack, who started this cosy little pub.

    • I thought of making it a thread starter yesterday and I could not find a source or anywhere to ask permission. There seems to be no trace of it anywhere online. I tried Facebook, I even looked over the road for more information and then tried looking up the names of retired WA District Court judges to see if any of them were a match, but found nothing.

      So just go ahead

    • I’ve also done a bit of checking, and can’t find anyone/thing that acknowledges it.

      My advice: use it as a threadstarter by all means, but please add caveats regarding its origin(s) and veracity.

  15. @Leone

    I know, right? Won’t all those voters in places like Dawson, Capricornia and Flynn feel kind of stupid when yeah, the Adani project goes ahead, but they don’t get any jobs, all they see is busloads of 457 visa workers going to and from the (mostly automated) mines?

    • Eighteen months ago we were told Adani will base its FIFO workers in Townsville and Rockhampton and the councils of those two towns will spend $20 million (it will be much more by now) of ratepayers money building an airstrip for Adani in the Galilee basin.

      No-one is saying where those workers will fly in from. I’m thinking India.

      Adani: Carmichael mine FIFO workforce to come from Townsville, Rockhampton

      All this plan will do is push up home prices and rents in Townsville and Rockhampton, pushing accommodation out of the reach of too many locals. We have seen this happen in WA and other parts of Queensland.

  16. Well, another small mercy electorally is the news that in Indonesia, counting in the election has been completed and that Jokowi has won another term. Which I’m glad.

    A friend in Indonesia has told me that his opponent, Prabowo, is an autocratic mongrel of the same cloth as Duterte of the Philippines and Trump, and even in this stage of vote counting seems to want the nation to burst into civil war than to accept defeat.

    The final numbers seem to be Jokowi 55.5/44.5 Prabowo, so, hopefully that’s a margin decisive enough to convince them to stand down.

  17. Thanks for everything Joe, and congratulations Fiona!

    I haven’t been keeping up with news and events since Saturday night, but I twigged something was up when Fred (Фред?) had a go at Joe yesterday.

    Anyway, chin up everyone, and keep smiling – even if through gritted teeth.

    • Excellent phrase that be.

      I wonder if the moderators could incorporate that into the Pub graphics. Fiona???

    • I was wondering if “THE PUB” branding could be changed to recognise it’s founder: “Tweet@Joe’s”?

      (I couldn’t think of a good reverse acronym: Just One Engaging Site?)

      I could never remember what the “U” stood for, and those not in the know wouldn’t believe you even if you did explain it.

  18. Well done Fiona.
    Thank you so very much to Joe6pack. I remember my trip to Canberra where Mr & Mrs Duck put me up and we had a great Pub Get-to-gether. As I said, Joe is a decent and honourable bloke, there is none finer.

    Joe6pack, please still visit us.

    • A small collapse of the Pu‘u ‘Ō‘ō crater at 6:14 a.m. HST today (May 1, 2019) was the last ‘hurrah’ for a GPS instrument located on the crater’s edge (red circle). This station, designated PUOC, served faithfully throughout Kīlauea’s 2018 eruption and was an important source of information on the shallow magma system of Pu‘u ‘Ō‘ō. The station’s last reported position showed it moving rapidly to the southeast, consistent with motion into the crater (inset shows data transmissions from April 11 through this morning). Monitoring of Pu‘u ‘Ō‘ō is currently being accomplished by additional GPS and tilt stations farther from the edge of the crater. The larger equipment installation near the solar panels was not affected by this morning’s collapse and continues to function. However, contingency plans are in place in case collapses of the crater edge continue. USGS photo by I. Johanson on March 18, 2019, annotated on May 1, 2019.


    • Close enough. 😉

      Clicking on the text link with the “#image” suffix will show you the full-sized image.

  19. Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    Latika Bourke writes that the architect of the Labor Party’s unsuccessful election campaign is being urged to stand down with one senior figure describing national secretary Noah Carroll as “dead as a dodo bird.”
    Peter van Onselen writes if that Albo emulates the policy scripts of the Hawke era, he has the personality and popularity to match the former PM, making him capable of winning the centre and selling his reforms to his Left flank. (Use the Google trick with the following string).

    Here’s Michelle Grattan’s take on what’s been happening with the Labor leadership race.
    Secret conversations between neo-Nazis who tried to take over the NSW Young Nationals have been uncovered in a leak of online chat logs that also reveal contact with a leading US alt-right figure. A joint Herald-ABC investigation has identified several Australians within a previously hidden online world, where racists post memes, share gun pictures and discuss real-life meetings. Charming!
    Michael Koziol writes that Jim Chalmers, the rising star threatening to derail Anthony Albanese’s rise to the Labor leadership, has been warned to back down or face a massive backlash. Apparently there a quite a few MPs that are fuming over it.
    Katharine Murphy tells us why Scott Morrison can’t give in to Queensland triumphalism. She says he government would be wrong to imagine all of Australia possesses the sensibilities of coal communities in Queensland.
    David Crowe says Morrison is fielding calls to promote at least two women to his new ministry but has told colleagues he is in no rush to decide the appointments while counting continues in key election contests. He reckons Sussan Ley and Anne Ruston are in the frame.
    Jess Irvine laments that we had a chance to fix the housing crisis but the moment has now passed.
    A shock election result and significant action from the RBA and the banking regulator have spurred optimism for housing markets.
    Angus Taylor is all gung ho over extending the life of the Liddell power station and is threatening to use new laws to ensure reliable power supply and prevent blackouts and brownouts.
    David Crowe reports that Sally McManus has called for tougher rules on social media to prevent “subterranean” political campaigns from influencing voters with false claims and scare campaigns.
    According to Max Kozlowski Labor will push for a cap on how much money political parties can spend during election campaigns amid fears mining magnate Clive Palmer’s record $60 million spend may have contributed to its loss at last weekend’s federal election.
    Sally Whyte reports that the main public sector union has warned the new government away from cutting jobs in the public sector after the Coalition’s shock election win, saying there is no mandate for further change.
    Flaws in the campaign started fingers pointing at dysfunction in headquarters, writes Pamela Williams in the final article in her series on the inside story of Labor’s defeat.
    Paul Karp writes that union leaders will be facing tough questions on the effectiveness of their campaign which has been labelled ‘nebulous’ and ‘hubristic’.
    Alarmingly, Stephen Bartholomeusz tells us that a new variety of collateralised debt, so-called CDOs, has emerged. It’s similar to what ignited the GFC, and it’s growing rapidly.
    The SMH editorial says that Morrison needs to quickly turn his attention to foreign policy.
    John Utting, who has been the Australian Labor Party’s national pollster since 1996, says Australian polling is broken and tells us how to fix it.
    And it’s bye bye Sarah Henderson.
    Tony Wright wonders if Derryn Hinch could rise from the dead a second time.
    “What happened to the climate change election?”, asks Waleed Aly.
    Peter Hannam reports that the Berejiklian government will review planned water restrictions for Sydney with the possibility that curbs on use will be tougher than presently detailed in the city’s Metropolitan Water Plan. Cabinet is expected to review the water plans next Monday to determine its response to plunging reservoir levels as the dry spell intensifies.
    In a stinging concession statement Julia Banks has lashed her political “haters” while decrying the “tribalism and toxic culture” of her former party.
    An alliance of unions will determine “good” and “bad” employers in Coles’ supply chain after claims the fresh food industry is “rife with exploitation”.
    Some words of advice from Zalt Steggall’s campaign manager who says that candidates with the clear, concise message won and those with the complicated and/or poorly executed messages lost.
    The re-elected Coalition government is pushing forward with plans to repeal the medical evacuation laws amid a spike in suicide attempts and self-harm among offshore refugees and asylum seekers.
    Five aspects of Pentecostalism that shed light on Scott Morrison’s politics. Read it and be worried.
    Nick Miller reports that the Conservative party was in open revolt during a day of chaos in the UK, with one MP complaining that “the sofa is up against the door, Theresa May’s not leaving”.
    “Why is Nigel Farage immune to scandals that would destroy his rivals?”, asks Jonathan Freedland.
    Matthew Knott reports that it’s all getting too much for Trump as he stormed out of a meeting on infrastructure with top Democrats, declaring he would end all policy co-operation with the party until it finishes its investigations into his election victory and administration.
    Elizabeth Knight writes that bank shares fell on Wednesday because investors realise banks make better margins when interest rates are rising.
    Today’s nomination for “Arseholes of the Week”.

  20. A selection from BK’s Cartoon Corner – edited because the cartoonists (most of them) are in full-on “let’s kick Labor while the party is down and pick on old people” hate mode and honestly, I’ve had more than enough journalist/cartoonist bias and ageism to last me for years.

    Fiona Katauskis with Morrison the Messiah.


    Cathy Wilcox is hoping for a Labor leader who will be good for cartoonists

    If you want to see the rest then you know where to find them.

  21. I don’t know why Labor & Unions are tearing themselves apart

    We know Clive Palmer bought the election
    We know unauthorised scare messages circulated on WeChat
    We know Clive Palmer has Chinese connections

    We also know Libs have no policies and they boobytrapped the budget for the incoming government

    • And now they are the incoming government they have to deal with their own booby traps. Will the MSM mention that? Of course not.

      It’s more the media telling us Labor and the unions are tearing themselves apart. What we are told by these turkeys and what the actual truth is are usually two very different things.

  22. It’s easy to see where things are heading, journalists are so very predictable.

    If Albo becomes leader then we are in for constant journalistic babbling about Chalmers wanting to challenge. If Chalmers becomes leader (I don’t think he will) then we get constant blather about Albo wanting to challenge. Every time either of them makes a speech, even to three Labor members in a carpark, it will be written up as whoever did it staking their claim to the leadership.

    We saw it with Rudd, we saw it over the last six years with Shorten/Albo and we will see it again, no matter which person becomes Labor leader.

    The Press Gallery mob are one trick ponies and incredibly lazy. Too lazy to look around for new stories, they just keep going back to their old schtick again and again. (I could say they are dogs going back to their vomit, but that might be rude.)

    Why don’t they ever write about leadership struggles in the Liberal Party? Lord knows there are enough chaps there keen to push FauxMo off a cliff. Dutton, of course, Frydenberg, who has been talked up as a “rising star” ever since he first parked his bum in the Reps, Christian Porter, who has long had his eye on the top job, even Andrew Hastie is seen as a future leader (Lord help us!).

    Do we ever hear a peep about these men and their ambitions? No, we do not. We all know why.

  23. Should it be a crime to publish fake news?

    Integrity campaigners have labelled the spread of disinformation during the recent federal election campaign as ‘intolerable’, and are calling for criminal laws specifically designed to deter such conduct in the future.

    One campaigner, former NSW supreme court justice Anthony Whealy, says falsehoods, particularly some spread via the United Australia Party’s advertising, are “unacceptable”.

    The former judge is one of several voices calling for law reform that provides a renewed emphasis on fact and truth in political campaigning


    • Tanya will still be a shadow minister, probably education. Shorten – who knows? He deserves a shadow ministry. Maybe industrial relations, because someone strong is going to be needed there, with this government’s plans to destroy unions.

      I’d ignore the media beatups about unions allegedly tearing themselves up over the election loss. The usual suspects are just dancing to the government’s tune.

    • I hope they both get a strong ministry. It would be foolish otherwise. Just saw Shorten and Chloe on screen. I’m quite moved because I feel there has been a strong injustice committed.

  24. Read the thread for the full explanation.

  25. As usual these days I am late to the party.

    Thank you Joe for many months of effort.

    Thank you Fiona for stepping into the breach.

  26. If you want the actual quote it’s in here, around 27 minutes in.


    Just the same as Peta Credlin admitting the whole “carbon tax” lie was made up. The MSM never challenged anyone about either claim, they just accepted them as gospel truth and ran with them.

  27. Three cheers for the CWA!

    Wicked Campers face the wrath of Country Women’s Association over slogans on its vans

    I don’t know about other parts of the country, but around here we still get a lot of these vans passing though. Not as many as a few years ago, thank goodness.

    They are always filthy outside, so I assume the insides would be even grottier, you would probably be at risk of picking up a nasty infection if you rode in one. Why anyone would want to hire them is beyond my understanding.

    It’s not that I’m too old to understand the (very limited) appeal of driving around in a grotty van that screams “Boganmobile”, in my younger days I would never have gone near anything like this.

  28. Excellent

    Geoffrey Rush will receive $2.9m in damages from the Daily Telegraph after a series of articles accusing the Oscar-winning actor of “inappropriate behaviour” towards a female actor.

    On Thursday the federal court heard lawyers for Rush and the Telegraph had agreed the actor would receive $2m for past and future lost earnings after tax, on top of an $850,000 payment ordered by Justice Michael Wigney in his judgment in April.

    It means Rush now holds the record for the largest defamation payout to a single person in Australia after the Victorian Court of Appeal last year slashed actor Rebel Wilson’s damages payout from $4.5 million to $600,000 over defamatory articles in Woman’s Day magazine.

    Rush’s barrister, Sue Chrysanthou, said on Thursday Rush had offered in early 2018 to settle in exchange for an apology and $50,000 plus costs, but the publisher did not respond.


  29. How to forget about politics for four and a half hours.

    1. Get osteomylitis in three toes, try and book into hospital

    2. Bring forward echocardiogram

    3. Go to booking in place. 15 minutes with main detail taker.

    4. See pre-admit nurse, faff around with medication and a ECG for over an hour and a half.

    5. Wait and see pre-admit doctor, go through same details about medication, aches and pains. Faff around while phone calls and query’s take place. Razz lost it by this point.

    Finally after many apologies on both sides, we got out of there.

    Not one thought about politics, easy peasy.

  30. Still having fun

    Cabinet Ministers Are Plotting To Oust Theresa May As Even Her Fed-Up Whips Say Her Brexit Deal Is Doomed

    BuzzFeed News can reveal explosive details of an extraordinary showdown between the prime minister and her whips office. “It was like the Murder on the Orient Express.”

    Posted on March 23, 2019, at 9:09 p.m.

    That time can’t be right.


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