First Tuesday in November

It was ordained that, on the first Tuesday of this November, a couple of dozen hexapods would chase each other round a track for about 3 minutes and 20 seconds. This, apparently, is cause for much celebration and the wearing of outfits.

This seems to have been the case for some years.

1881 (from Wikimedia)

1896 (National Film and Sound Archive)

1896 (National Film and Sound Archive)

1896 (National Film and Sound Archive)

1930 (Wikimedia)

1937 (Fin Review)



1970 (

1980 (Goulburn Post)

I’ll close this one for comment after tomorrow


143 thoughts on “First Tuesday in November

    • In 1968 Melbourne only had 6 weeks of summer from Australia Day til March 7
      Which explains why I have 40 year old summer frocks in pristine condition

    • The disapproval was not so much about the very modest length of her skirt. It was because she wasn’t wearing stockings or a hat.

      In 1965 ladies did not attend the Melbourne Cup (or pretty much anything else) hatless and bare-legged.

      I know, because I was around then, I was about to have my 20th birthday, and I thought Ms Shrimpton looked sensational. I copied her dress – so did thousands of others.

  1. Miss Shrimpton – and her dress – were and are still gorgeous.

    As for the jealous wowers in the stands … pfffft!

  2. Even Jean Shrimpton’s heels look capable of lasting the distance from 9am to 6pm on your feet all day

    • Today we were remembering the mature woman who ended up on the front page of Wednesday’s Age in her bra and bonds cotton tails. Heavy rain that day

  3. Tearing ScumMo into tiny bits

    The internet is never kind to politicians but, when you are a prime minister on an aggressive pre-election tour, with a folksy “daggy dad” media strategy and a bus with your face on it, it becomes ruthless.

    Add in the existence of Photoshop and an over-reliance on the phrase “fair dinkum”, and you have a viral recipe for ridicule.

    So it was for Scott Morrison on day one of his trip through marginal seats in Queensland.

  4. Billie (from the previous thread):

    Aguirre As much as I respect your views have to disagree, ScoMo’s stunts are undermining Australian faith in all politicians and political parties. ScoMo’s incessant shallow campaigning is sucking attention away from solid policy announcements from Labor.

    Fair call. I probably didn’t make myself very clear there. What I meant was that while Morrison is trotting around saying stupid things and making pointless videos, he’s not doing any actual policy work. Policy work from the Liberals always seems to end up with something brutal and retrograde. Like Robodebt for instance. Or some business deal that helps destroy the environment, He’s doing more political damage this way, but less policy damage, if you get what I mean.

  5. Leone posted this on the previous thead (sorry about this backtracking everyone, I’m just catching up on things) –

    I tried to look that playlist up on Spotify, but I’ve discovered that I have no idea how to do that. Nobody appears to have linked to it or anything, and when I searched for ‘Scott Morrison’ or ‘Scomo’ or variations on that, nothing came up. I’d like at least to have a look at that list, but I’m stumped.

    Plus Spotify slows my computer down horribly for some reason.

    • Found it now. I think Tony Burke might have been a bit misleading there. Morrison’s got a stack of playlists on Spotify. Six of them are Christian music, including three Hillsong ones. The one Burke’s referring to is called Eighties Music and it does indeed have just the one band, Wa Wa Nee. But there’s a pretty broad range all up, including an Australian Rock playlist. He seems to have a thing for Keith Urban too.

  6. That final picture prompted me to wonder if Mesma will be there, and what she might wear.
    Now I’ll try to forget that image.

  7. There’s a lot of mocking going on over the colour of the bus – NSW blue. The allegedSharks fan should have realised he was making a big, big mistake.

  8. Speaking of that other first Tuesday event.

    Here are my first predictions



    Predictions may be subject to change as final polls are released

    • Senate

      R Gain from D: North Dakota
      D Gain from R: Arizona, Nevada

      D gain from R: Maine, Florida, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, New Mexico, Nevada
      R gain from I: Alaska


    Drastic dual election plan considered as government tries to regain ground
    By David Crowe
    6 November 2018 — 12:00am

    Australian voters would cast their ballots in two federal elections in a single year under a drastic option being canvassed within the Morrison government to gain more time to restore community support and defeat Labor.

    While a May election remains the most likely scenario in the government discussions, some MPs are open to the idea of holding a Senate election early in the year while going to a separate election for the House of Representatives several months later.

    The option would give the government more scope to deliver a federal budget early in the year to rebuild its stocks after a slump in the opinion polls during over the two months since the Liberal Party’s brutal coup to remove Malcolm Turnbull as prime minister.

    Another option, which was considered before Mr Turnbull’s removal and remains a possibility, is to call an election soon after Australia Day on January 26 to hold a simultaneous election for both houses of Parliament in early March.


    The latest date for a standard half-Senate election is May 18 but the election for the House of Representatives does not need to be held until November 2, according to the Parliamentary Library analysis.

    While Australians have gone to simultaneous elections for both houses of Parliament for decades, the process was “out of sync” throughout the 1960s when voters went to elections for the lower house in 1966, 1969 and 1972 while casting ballots for the upper house in 1964, 1967 and 1970.

    Political leaders have tried to keep the two houses synchronised since the early 1970s out of concern at a backlash from voters who object to being forced to the polls too often, a factor that led some Liberals to dismiss the option to Fairfax Media on Monday. Others did not rule out the idea.

    • Has a govt which is seemingly unpopular both in the polls and not getting adoration from the msm ever split the election like this before?

    • Told youse a few times this could happen.

      I don’t think we have ever had a government as loathed as this one and with as little support from the MSM.

      If he chooses the dual election option there would definitely have to be an early budget, otherwise StuntMo risks having supply denied by an unfriendly Senate. It would be the first time that would be done, Fraser’s senators, despite what popular myths tell us, never actually denied supply.

      I really don’t think anyone is going to be won over by a Santa Claus budget now, only the rusted-on Libs and Nats would believe anything it promised. Whatever goodies might be promised would not take effect until well after an election, most likely an election three years in the future. We’ve seen more than enough of StuntMo’s promises now, we know how it works. Even his drought brainfart won’t start until 2020. His next budget would be just more of the same, and a new Labor government would cancel it all anyway.

      Labor would have a field day campaigning on the huge cost of two elections in six months, and there would be a lot of angry voters who would not like the extra, needless expense and having to traipse to the polls twice in a year.

      If this dual election did happen then it would be a huge vote loser, at least, that’s what I think.

    • This discussion of 2 Federal elections in 2019 is going to cruel the NSW state election and has been canvassed by David Crowe early enough to cruel the Victorian election. I am glad he has floated this as it isn’t news until you can read it in The Age

      It’s not clinging to power so much as giving voters to opportunities to punish LNP and lose even more LNP donors. LNP has a massive rebuild ahead of them as Australians don’t want to be governed by Mormons pentecostalists and conservative Catholics and Anglicans

  10. Good morning Dawn Patrollers
    Labor has pulled further in front of the Coalition in the national political contest, and voter disapproval of Scott Morrison has jumped by nine points in a month, according to the latest Guardian Essential poll. So much for the ScoMo Express!
    It’s popcorn time as the heads of Australia’s biggest banks will be interrogated by Kenneth Hayne at the banking royal commission this month. Senior executives from Macquarie Group have also been asked to appear – and so they should!
    Peter Hartcher explains how Morrison has staked foreign policy on values that Beijing abhors.
    And David Wroe writes that China experts say Foreign Minister Marise Payne’s crucial visit to Beijing shows the Chinese government wants to get the relationship back on track.
    David Crowe reveals that Australian voters would cast their ballots in two federal elections in a single year under a drastic option being canvassed within the Morrison government to gain more time to restore community support and defeat Labor. A cynical plot from a desperate showman?
    Michael Koziol reveals that the self-styled “ScoMo Express” might be tearing up the Bruce Highway this week, but for the most part, Prime Minister Scott Morrison is touring Queensland by jet.
    In a very good contribution ormer Productivity Commission executive Jenny Gordon says that protecting against trade ends up harming many. She examines why social protection is better than trade protection.
    Michaela Whitbourn reports that the barrister acting for Geoffrey Rush in his defamation claim against The Daily Telegraph has blasted the newspaper’s “extraordinary attitude” during the litigation and argued its conduct should lead to a higher-than-usual award of legal costs if the Oscar-winning actor wins the case.
    John Passant accuses the government of ignoring workers, veterans and refugees, bit not war memorials.–but-not-war-memorials,12068
    Banking giant Westpac expects further falls in Sydney and Melbourne house prices, as property investors remain hesitant about putting their money into the property market. The falls are expected to be orderly.
    The Lion Air Boeing has air speed problems on the previous four flights. Does this point to criminality somewhere?
    Richard Mulgan really goes to town on Christian Porter for his action to suppress information in an Auditor-General’s report on defence equipment and how it marks a brazen and dangerous attack on the executive’s accountability to Parliament and the public.
    Both comedy and tragedy are playing out in Australia at the moment, but tragedy has the upper hand says Bruce Haigh.,12069
    Former senior public servant Paddy Gourley tells us that the review of the APS bureaucracy is producing some useful, and some absurd, discussions.
    And Doug Dingwall writes that Mathias Cormann, who emerged from the rubble of August’s Liberal leadership meltdown as public service minister, is proving a motivated advocate for the Coalition’s signature decisions about bureaucracy staffing and contractor spending.
    The prime minister’s tour and ‘daggy dad’ media strategy have proved a viral recipe for ridicule.
    David Crowe writes that, after admitting he would have appreciated more help from former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull in the difficult campaign to hold the seat, Dave Sharma has cast doubt on whether he will contest Wentworth at the next election after independent Kerryn Phelps was declared the official winner in the byelection that has cost the Morrison government its majority in Parliament.
    The Australian understands Chris Crewther is considering obtaining legal advice as pressure mounts over investments he made in a local pharmaceutical company.
    Michelle Grattan writes about Katter waving the Section 44 stick in a ‘notice North Queensland’ moment.
    Pruning migration is low-hanging policy fruit compared with reducing greenhouse emissions says Stephen Saunders.
    Neil James, head of the Australia Defence Association is less than impressed with Virgin’s cost-free and tokenistic gesture.
    Tony Wright takes the piss out of the idea – and Morrison!
    And Virgin Airlines has backed-tracked on its plan to give Australian veterans a US-style public acknowledgement on their flights and priority when boarding, amid an outcry from veterans themselves.
    Michael Pascoe is onto them. He writes that if the News Corp/Scott Morrison/Virgin Australia stunt using returned servicemen and women was merely a marketing ploy for the airline coming second, it wouldn’t matter. But it’s not. It’s part of a calculated plan to exploit Australians’ respect for people who have taken risks and worse in our armed services.
    Meanwhile a Senate inquiry hears that xx-serviceman Mark doesn’t want priority boarding on Australian airlines. He just wants help for medical conditions that go back to 2001, when he was deployed to Timor-Leste and took anti-malarial drugs in a seven-month trial.
    Australians know Adani doesn’t “stack up” environmentally or economically and it won’t stack up for the Morrison Government politically either.,12066
    Cathy Sherry warns that schools selecting for out-of-step values are narrowing their teacher pool.
    Meanwhile the Anglican Archbishop of Sydney writes that bad legislation is made in a rush. But when it comes to religious freedom we already have bad legislation and there seems to be no urgency to fix it properly — just a rush to create more.
    And Sam Maiden tells us how the Catholic schools sector outplayed the Coalition government.
    Stephen Bartholomeusz writes that historically, the 12 months after the US midterm elections has been an exceptionally positive period for Wall Street. Given the rather unusual nature of the Trump administration, however, could this time be different?
    Troy Bramston says that whatever the result, these mid-term elections will mark another seismic shift in US politics. The outcome will entrench voter polarisation because Donald Trump, unlike other presidents, has invited Americans to give their verdict on his presidency.
    A politically wounded Donald Trump in the US midterm elections may be the world’s worst nightmare, prompting him to become even more “extreme” in his America First approach, attacks on the WTO, and escalating trade war with China, warns Kevin Rudd.
    Jenna Price tells us why we should argue with racists.
    Wayne Swan says that for us to tackle climate change, companies need to pay their tax.
    Industrial relations lawyer Jon Wilson warns against racing headlong into discrimination legal reform.
    According to this English teacher the government’s draft curriculum on sex education falls short on LGBT experiences, sexual violence and pornography.
    There must be an election in the air as yet another lobby group comes out swinging. This time the big miners say removal of the diesel rebate would be akin to placing “a big tax on business”, in a warning shot to federal Labor ahead of the next election.
    Clive Palmer has been accused of ‘scandalising conduct’ as a second judge steps down from his trial.
    The Grattan Institute lauds NSW’s move to index stamp duty rates and says other states should follow the lead.
    More than 40 highly skilled disability workers at AnglicareSA will be made redundant or offered back their jobs for a considerable pay cut of up to $300 less per week, a union says. The staff were informed at a meeting on Monday, of which the Australian Services Union says they were only made aware 22 minutes before the announcement.
    The launch of 5G is expected to revolutionise wireless internet, with many touting it as the first true competitor to fixed-line broadband. It’s the threat NBNCo never mentions.
    FactCheck: does Victoria have Australia’s highest rate of crime?
    A great effort from Australia’s champion Gerry (it’s always somebody else’s fault) Harvey.
    The midterm elections are a competition for the soul of America.
    The seats that will decide Trump’s next two years.
    A federal judge has denied the Justice Department’s efforts to halt legal proceedings in a case accusing President Donald Trump of violating the US Constitution – opening the door for Trump’s critics to soon gain access to financial records related to his Washington, DC, hotel.
    Senate Estimates confirmed last month that BG Group’s gas bonanza has delivered diddly-squat to Australia in tax – despite claims it would contribute “more than $1 billion”. Whistleblower, Simone Marsh, investigates the crony capitalism behind the Gladstone debacle; the history of how politicians kowtowed to the Duke of York-led British BG Group by pulling strings, shifting guidelines and ignoring public opinion to unlock prime farmland for fracking. Marsh raises new questions about the timing of the spill of former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.
    More and more people are adopting plant-based diets in Australia and other western nations. But also seemingly on the rise is resentment towards vegans and vegetarians.
    A South Australian regional mayor who met his online girlfriend during ratepayer-funded overseas trips has been found guilty of maladministration and misconduct, in a scathing report by the State Ombudsman.
    And for today’s nomination for “Arsehole of the Week” . . .

    Cartoon Corner

    David Rowe never lets up on Trump.

    Well you can’t say Morrison hasn’t asked for it! Here David Pope launches the Cirque du ScoMo.$width_828/t_resize_width/t_sharpen%2Cq_auto%2Cf_auto/4d51aeb77e4e991102e3bc6345da40def972aa4e
    From Mark David.

    Nice work from Peter Broelman.

    Alan Moir and reparations.

    Paul Zanetti delivers a message to Turnbull.

    More in here.

  11. Labor has pulled further in front of the Coalition in the national political contest, and voter disapproval of Scott Morrison has jumped by nine points in a month, according to the latest Guardian Essential poll.

    The latest survey of 1,028 voters puts Labor ahead of the Coalition 54% to 46% on the two-party-preferred measure, compared with 53% to 47% a fortnight ago – a result that would give Bill Shorten an easy election win.

  12. I had been wondering whether Morrison might go for the split elections. I can only be bad for the Liberals, but when you’ve got a bunch of people desperate to hang on to power, it would probably look an attractive option. However, it would only be feasible with an absolute majority in the lower house, which they no longer have. The way things are looking, they’ll be dead ducks in the House of Reps, and if there are any more constitutional challenges/by-elections, it’ll just get worse. The current government is incapable of negotiating with the cross-benches. So, far from gaining “more time to restore community support and defeat Labor” as Crowe puts it, they’ll just create more chaos.

    In case they haven’t noticed, their polling under Morrison peaked at 47-53, and now it’s starting to blow out again. indications at this point are that they have no idea how to win votes back, and their attempts to do so are turning the electorate off.

    And also – if they really are considering pushing the lower house vote back, what on earth is Morrison doing dragging a bus around Queensland?

  13. He’s not really travelling in that bus. He’s flying, just joining the bus for photo opportunities and triumphal entries into whatever towns are being forced to put up with him and his entourage.

    Why go to the expense of having that bus painted? Why have it at all?

    It’s just another failed advertising stunt.

    • Finding a good horse in the wet is going to be difficult because it has been so dry in southern Australia

      I suppose the Kiwis and Irish horses with do well

    • Is it possible that Vox Dei is passing Their opinion on what Australia has done to its politics?

      Having spent the morning wading through ancient digitised newspapers in Trove, and the way in which the language then reminded me of the language certain politicians seem liable to totter on occasion at the moment, I struck me that They might have an opinion …

      Also the number of times I read Vom Dei because of the way in which the digitisation had not quite worked seemed even more appropriate!

  14. Antony Green has weighed in over election timing. His opinion is that they won’t split the elections as it would be madness. Passing the Budget would be an issue if the Senate is adjourned, and if passing the Budget is delayed until after the Senate election, it wouldn’t have time to pass before the House expires in August. That’s his view of things. An early Budget would be a way around that, I suppose, but Green isn’t entertaining that option, apparently.

  15. I read somewhere this morning that NBN will have to write down as 5G mobile networks will be available here in 2 years with the mobile network providers targeting broadband users on lower plans ie any consumer connected to the internet via slow copper fibre to the curb FTTC or even slower degraded hybrid fibre cable, HFC ie the old Optus or Foxtel cable

  16. My Health Record system crashes as Australians rush to opt out

    The My Health Record telephone opt-out service has overloaded and crashed as Australians rush to opt out of the controversial e-health system before the November 15 deadline.

    Callers to the helpline are being told the computer system used by call centre operators has crashed.

    “We’ve been inundated with calls,” one operator said on Tuesday morning. “They are working as quickly as possible to get it up and running again.”

    • Petty, vindictive, micromanaging by people with no minimum level of qualifications making childhood insecure as well as impoverished

    • The story said that the mother was supposed to pull her child out of a kinder session to attend “story time” at the local library

  17. Please, make it stop! Enough is enough!

    The pain from the constant cringing at StuntMo’s woeful attempts to act like his/his minders’ idea of the average Aussie bloke is driving me towards a codeine addiction.

  18. Given Scrott has spent his life in a,shall we say, non mainstream religion it is likely that socially he has grown up enclosed within that ‘pious’ community. Such a lack of contact with heathen sinner sinner Australians may well explain Scotty’s fairdinkumcooeeecobberbonza horror show, His image of the outside world is the cliche and stereotype learnt in his world

    • Not all his life.

      His parents were members of the Uniting Church, oddly enough one of the more tolerant mainstream churches. That’s where young StuntMo grew up. Followers of that church are not out of touch with your average sinner.

      The happy-clapper business came later.

      The fake Aussie Bloke schtick is planned, meant to make him seem very different to Turnbull. Turnbull was well-educated, articulate, elegantly dressed and worldly StuntMo is trying to be the opposite.
      He doesn’t have to try very hard. He’s a slob, he can’t manage a simple answer at a presser without resorting to gibberish, he’s overweight, he’s sweaty, he seems to have some sort of ADHD issue. All he has in common with Turnbull is a very good education at a top selective high school and then at UNSW..

      There’s no point of difference in any other aspect of this woeful government. He’s carrying on with the same policies, stuck with his own budget, which the Senate still won’t finish passing, so all that’s left is to try to make him look very different to his predecessor.

      It’s already reached peak lunacy, it’s now become a running joke with StuntMo’s antics in Queensland, and it’s going to get ramped up even more as we get closer to the election because he’s trapped. He’s gone so hard on this caricature of what he and his minders imagine is your average Australian dad, that he now can’t back away. He’s stuck with the nonsense.

      As always, he hasn’t thought this through. He rushed in with a fake image, as advertising types do, and he didn’t bother to think about how he would sustain the act for six more months, or however long it is until he finally calls the next election.

    • “so all that’s left is to try to make him look very different to his predecessor.”

      leone, I thought he was trying to emulate Abbott. Basically, he just wants to be loved … With a blokey look people will definitely love him.

  19. From The Australasian, Rupes says so long to the Coalition and hello ………………………..
    Shortens prove Cup favourites

    As it rained down on Melbourne Cup Day’s fashion parade, Bill Shorten and Chloe brought star power to The Birdcage.

    Opposition leader Bill Shorten and wife Chloe have brought some serious star power to the Tabcorp marquee, sweeping in to a stream of camera flashes.

    Chloe is dressed in emerald green with a white fascinator, while her smiling husband matched with a green tie. Repeat after me: “Cute!!!”

    It might be early, but they’ve already nabbed the — highly coveted — title of Tabcorp’s most in-demand coupl

  20. Dear spam monster herders. Please release my trapped post. It is truly shocking to read. Almost impossible to believe such words about Bill and Chloe Shorten come from a Rupert outlet. The Australian no less.

  21. There seems to be only one picture of Bill and Chloe at Flemington today, and it is on newspaper sites so it is not in a format I can post. But I reckon in the Fashion Stakes, Bill and Chloe beat Bishop and What’isname by 20 lengths.

    • Yeah, I know it is petty of me. But Jools looks like she is wearing a set of 1980’s curtains.

      But at least Bill knows how to wear a suit and I love that he wears a tie to match Chloe’s dress. It is not the first time he has done it. A mark of a gentleman complementing the lady strutting her best stuff.

    • I found this one, it’s cut off from the original published in The Oz.

      Chloe’s dress was OK, but Rianna Ponting (Ricky’s wife) was wearing the exact same thing, with black strappy shoes and a black fascinator and wore it better, so that’s not good. Chloe’s hat is atrocious. She was wearing white shoes – ugh!

      At least Bill’s shirt seemed to fit.

      The green tie was a nice touch.

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