The Big Budget Bribe.2018



The 2018 Federal Budget will be announced tomorrow ( or what little parts already haven’t been) but a desperate Government hoping to bribe the voters into re-electing them.


By all reports they are going to spend big on infrastructure as well as any other items the think will be looked upon favourably as well as giving tax cuts and other sweeteners immediately to the lower classes while the more affluent will have to wait a few years.



Morrison and Mal are indeed trying to be Santa Claus. The hypocrisy is astounding by them as well as the complicate media,

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What happened to the DEBT AND DEFICIENT disaster   we were warned about day in and day out when it was much lower than what it is now? What about the Sovereign Risk to Australia,? WE were all going to be ruined unless it was bought back under control.


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This is the biggest bribe in place since Costello’s last one, which was the last trick to save their tired old Government from losing. This coming budget is about saving Turnbull/Morrison and the rest of Coalscums jobs.It will be talked up as brilliant by their sprukers and lickspittles , Labor will pillared from post to paddock if they don’t immediately agree to pass all the measures in the budget and then get out of the way and let the rightful rulers get on with their agenda with out question.



Will the Public fall for it, or are they more savvy than given credit for?

Time will tell.


3,079 thoughts on “The Big Budget Bribe.2018

  1. Turnbbull seems to be drunk, or his medication needs adjusting. Five minutes into QT and he was red in the face and slurring his words.

    Now he’s also incoherent as well as shouty.

  2. Wait, hang on, new tactic afoot. Bishop is trying out a novel scare campaign, claiming the Venezuela had a strong economy until it turned to socialism in 1999; and that Shorten wants to take Australia down the same path. She squeezed the CFMEU in there as well. As scare campaigns go, that one’s a little… obscure.

    People are already pointing out that it’s US sanctions that screwed up Venezuela.

    There is a story attached to that, apparently. Something about a letter from the CFMEU’s WA branch urging our government to recognise the recent election win in Venezuela. As far as I can tell, Bishop is misrepresenting a few things there.

  3. Turnbull was asked what the median income in Australia is. He took it on notice. I’m willing to bet he will never get back to Parliament with the answer to that one.

  4. I am swearing so much now. They are bragging about this. )*^*^&&**&^$^%*&#^%(^*(

    • Bastards!

      SloMo is now so deluded and so insane that he would boast about the opportunities for international travel given by being sold to white slavers.

  5. Halema`ma`u crater on Hawai`i has increased in size by half a Sydney Harbour:

    During the helicopter overflight on June 18, crews captured this image of the growing Halema‘uma‘u crater viewed to the southeast. With HVO and Jagger Museum sitting on the caldera rim (right side, middle where the road bends to the left) it is easier to comprehend the scale of subsidence at the summit. The estimated total volume loss is about 260 million cubic meters as of June 15th.

  6. The most disgusting thing about QT today (and there were many) was Speaker Smith saying that the words used by Labor (the “arrogant and out-of touch” bit) were over the top. Burke properly asked whether the same criterion should be applied to answers.

    Amy thought she detected a mumbled “yes” from Smith. That was not reflected in subsequent answers.

    • To be fair, I think Labor had more than made their point with that line of questioning, and it was time to move on. It’s better to beat the drum than flog a dead horse.

      That said, Jenny Mackin’s “Fisticuffs” variation was excellent:

      “How was it fair that under this arrogant and out of touch PM a property developer in Arncliffe earning $1 million will get a tax cut of over $7000 a year, while a worker in a charcoal chicken shop in the same suburb will only get a tax cut of $10.” – Labor’s Jenny Macklin.

      The PM’s non-answer to the simple “what is the Australian median income?” question is exactly what they should be aimed for: direct questions asking for simple, factual answers about the economy from the so-called “better economic managers.” Challenge incorrect answers, and ridicule those taken on notice.

  7. Actual, red lava within Pu`u O`o crater, June 2012:

    We made several passes of the crater before moving on; you have to be looking in the right place, at the right time, and with favourable fumes.

    I’m still looking for a “then” photo to compare with what’s happening now.

  8. Fracking Greens!

  9. This morning’s Hawai`i update; included mostly for the video footage:

    I haven’t posted a full HVO update for ages; the links may be useful.

    U.S. Geological Survey
    Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 9:02 AM HST (Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 19:02 UTC)

    19°25’16” N 155°17’13” W, Summit Elevation 4091 ft (1247 m)
    Current Volcano Alert Level: WARNING
    Current Aviation Color Code: RED

    Kīlauea Volcano Lower East Rift Zone

    The eruption in the lower East Rift Zone (LERZ) continues with little change.

    Lava fountains from the Fissure 8 spatter cone continue to feed the established channel that transports lava to the ocean at the Kapoho coastline, where several entries are active. Upslope, short-lived overflows occur periodically but generally do not travel beyond the existing flow field. Fissures 6, 15, and 16 are periodically oozing lava and steaming.

    Pele’s hair and other lightweight volcanic glass fragments from the lava fountain at Fissure 8 continue to fall downwind of the fissure, dusting the ground within a few hundred meters (yards) of the vent. High winds may waft lighter particles to greater distances. Residents are urged to minimize exposure to these volcanic particles, which can cause skin and eye irritation similar to volcanic ash.

    The most recent map of lava flows can be found at

    HVO field crews are on site tracking the fountains, lava flows, and spattering from Fissure 8 as conditions allow and are reporting information to Hawaii County Civil Defense. Observations are also collected on a daily basis from cracks in the area of Highway 130; no changes in temperature, crack width, or gas emissions have been noted for several days.

    Volcanic gas emissions remain very high from Fissure 8 eruptions. Shifting wind conditions are expected to bring VOG to nearly all of the Island of Hawaii. VOG information can be found at

    The ocean entry is a hazardous area. Venturing too close to an ocean entry on land or the ocean exposes you to flying debris from sudden explosive interaction between lava and water. Also, the lava delta is unstable because it is built on unconsolidated lava fragments and sand. This loose material can easily be eroded away by surf, causing the new land to become unsupported and slide into the sea. Additionally, the interaction of lava with the ocean creates “laze”, a corrosive seawater plume laden with hydrochloric acid and fine volcanic particles that can irritate the skin, eyes, and lungs.

    Magma continues to be supplied to the Lower East Rift Zone. Seismicity remains relatively low in the area with numerous small magnitude earthquakes and low amplitude background tremor. Higher amplitude tremor is occasionally being recorded on seismic stations close to the ocean entry.

    Additional ground cracking and outbreaks of lava in the area of the active fissures are possible. Residents downslope of the region of fissures should heed all Hawaii County Civil Defense messages and warnings.

    Kīlauea Volcano Summit

    At 4:22 AM HST, a gas and ash emission from a collapse event occurred at Kīlauea’s summit, producing a small plume that was blown downwind at less than 6,000 ft above sea level. Inward slumping of the rim and walls of Halemaʻumaʻu continues in response to ongoing subsidence at the summit.

    Sulfur dioxide emissions from the volcano’s summit have dropped to levels that are about half those measured prior to the onset of the current episode of eruptive activity. This gas and minor amounts of ash are being transported downwind, with small bursts of ash and gas accompanying intermittent explosive activity.

    For forecasts of where ash would fall under forecast wind conditions, please consult the Ash3D model output here:

    Information on volcanic ash hazards and how to prepare for ash fall maybe found at (health impacts) OR (other impacts).


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    Lava Flow Maps:

    Definitions of terms used in update:

    Overview of Kīlauea summit (Halemaʻumaʻu) and East Rift Zone (Puʻu ʻŌʻō ) eruptions:

    Summary of volcanic hazards from Kīlauea eruptions:

    Recent Earthquakes in Hawai’i (map and list):

    Explanation of Volcano Alert Levels and Aviation Color Codes:


    The Hawaiian Volcano Observatory is one of five volcano observatories within the U.S. Geological Survey and is responsible for monitoring volcanoes and earthquakes in Hawai`i.

  10. Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    In a typically thoughtful contribution John Hewson tells us how voters have tired of our adversarial politics, so self-absorbed, paying out to various narrow and vested interests, with no genuine concern about, or commitment to, our national interests. They have had enough of the blame game he says.
    Peter Martin says “Never mind the tax, it’s wage growth that’s making us glum.” Government forecasts notwithstanding, it is hard to see anything changing for quite some time. Glum is starting to look like the new normal.
    According The Australian Pauline Hanson will hand Malcolm Turnbull the passage of the government’s $144 billion income tax cuts.
    Greg Jericho clearly and unambiguously explains that it’s clear who really benefits from tax cuts – and it’s not true blue battlers
    Phil Coorey writes that The Turnbull government’s income tax cuts are poised to pass the Senate today, triggering months of pre-election warfare between Labor and the government over aspirational voters.
    Katharine Murphy reports that anticipating the likely return of the company tax debate, new analysis prepared by the union movement warns that tax cuts in advanced economies over the last decade did not consistently lead to increased wage growth, and in some cases stagnation worsened.
    Michelle Grattan says the Senate is set to pass intact the government’s A$144 billion three-stage income tax package today – but whether the plan is fully delivered will depend on who wins the election.
    David Donavan is unimpressed as he tells us that aspiration is the latest buzzword of the Turnbull Government. They used it so much in Parliament this week, it started to sound like desperation.,11621
    Simon Benson says that Hanson is once again embroiled in a desperate struggle for political survival.
    Adam Creighton reports that new analysis shows the infrastructure boom is pushing government debts towards the $1 trillion mark for the first time.
    It looks like Labor is the winner out the changes to electoral boundaries in Victoria.
    Federal government payments to private schools would be determined by the income tax paid by parents at that school under a new funding model set to disadvantage some elite institutions but reward others.
    The Bishop of Parramatta Vincent Long Van Nguyen has broken ranks with the Australian Catholic Bishops Conference to join reform groups and politicians calling for public release of a church report responding to the child abuse royal commission.
    The ACT climate change minister Shane Rattenbury told Guardian Australia he believes conservative internal critics of the policy, such as the former prime minister Tony Abbott, are intent on turning the screws on Frydenberg, the federal energy minister, as the policy enters its make-or-break stage.
    The SMH editorial supports the new pre-school funding but says more is needed.
    CBA whistle blower Jeff Morris writes that a lot of good came out of his decision to blow the whistle. But if the bank could have sued him for defamation, there is no way he would have taken that risk.
    Incoming AMP chairman David Murray has accused former ASIC chairman Greg Medcraft of straying on to the turf of the other financial regulators.
    The offshore firm at the heart of the Panama Papers leak did not know who as many as three-quarters of its clients were at the time of the exposé, according to an investigation.
    Advocate Ian Smith says that Australia must reconsider how it deals with refugees.
    Whyalla saviour Sanjeev Gupta’s bold vision for South Australia’s future
    Research Fellow Denis Muller tells us that the constant attacks on the ABC will come back to haunt the Coalition government. A very good read.
    New ACT Senator David Smith contemplates if the upper echelons of our public service and political class have lost their moral compass.
    And the Barnaby circus continues.
    The New Daily is saying that Natalie Joyce is posing a fresh dilemma for New England voters.
    US television host Rachel Maddow has broken down live on air as she delivered the latest developments in the Trump administration’s controversial “zero tolerance” immigration policy.
    And the Pope gets in on the act to criticise this deplorable child separation policy of Trump’s.
    Another disgusting example of the classy people the Republicans attract.
    In late news Trump , in a dramatic backdown, signs an executive order stopping family separation.
    A whole of government policy for gifts and benefits received by public servants should be developed, the audit office has said. The interim report, which assessed the financial controls of government entities, said publishing a gifts and benefits register online would increase accountability.
    David Crowe reports that Abbott is refusing to rule out crossing the floor on climate change targets.
    A revolt is brewing within the Nationals over the proposed National Energy Guarantee with at least one third of the party’s MPs and Senators opposed to the policy and demanding the government instead intervene more directly in the market to lower prices.
    Tony Abbott may have ruined his own dream of running the Ramsay Centre, but he couldn’t have done it without the support of his mates, writes Michael Sainsbury.
    Ben Grubb concludes that Telstra hopes to eventually eliminate human staff entirely from the customer support experience to compete against rivals and save cash.
    Stephen Bartholomeusz examines what he describes as Telstra’s radical and risky plan.
    Telstra’s decision to slash 9500 workers is part of a much wider trend of companies hollowing out their middle management and transitioning towards more “nimble” corporate structures, workplace experts warn. The cuts have not been received well in many quarters.
    Australia’s mobile phone market is headed for a new level of competitive intensity following Telstra CEO Andy Penn’s declaration of war on rivals. Telstra’s strategy is all about killing Optus, Vodafone and TPG
    The state executive of the NSW Liberal Party has started suspension proceedings against a wing of the party following an extraordinary brawl outside an Arncliffe chicken shop, as well as appointing a private investigator to examine the incident. How bad would it be if the Liberal Party had factions? 😊
    OMG! Criminal charges could be brought following “truly shocking” revelations that more than 450 people had their lives shortened after being prescribed powerful painkillers at a UK hospital.
    In yet another change of direction David Jones is going to concentrate on upmarket brands and products.
    Campaigners opposed to an Australia republic are preparing to fight the next referendum, with monarchists concerned Bill Shorten or Malcolm Turnbull will push for a vote soon. Abbott rearing his head again!
    It’s looking worse and worse for Dreamworld as more revelations emerge at the inquiry.
    And it’s goodbye to Toys’R’Us – and hundreds of jobs.

    Cartoon Corner

    Two more rippers from Mark David.

    Paul Zanetti with a re-energised Abbott.

    Oh dear!

    Glen Le Lievre on World Refugee Day.

    Mark Knight on Eurydice.

    And he gives us Brian Burston’s change of conveyance.

    Sean Leahy is none too impressed with Telstra.

    Peter Nicholson and the NSW budget windfall.

    Alan Moir with the double talk on the ABC.

    Jon Kudelka and the management of crossbench senators.
    Quite a few good ones in here.

  11. Glen Le Lievre’s cartoon was posted last night in response to this –

    Sadly this one no longer applies now Trump has backed down on his Dutton-inspired policy of separating children from their parents. Here’s another article about this.

    I don’t think it was done because of “anxious allies”, as Jill Colvin claims in The Age, I think it was the extraordinary public outcry that finally got Trump to act.

    Maybe this helped make up his tiny mind.

  12. I don’t know why the media are telling us Hanson has given the government the votes it needs to get its tax bill through the Senate today. Hanson voted with the government yesterday.

    It’s the two Centre Alliance votes that will change. Yesterday they voted for amendments to split the bill, then they said they would vote for the whole thing if the reps sent it back. They are giving the government the extra two votes needed to get this damn bill passed in the form the government wants – unsplit..

    Rex Patrick was on Radio National this morning explaining why Centre Alliance was going to let the whole income tax package go through, despite having voted to split it yesterday:

    Yes, we are. We’ve gone on record and said that. We’re interested in making sure that low- to middle-income earners reap the benefits of our much stronger economic position. The dilemma for us is that if we were to knock out all of the tax package, then no one gets any benefit.

    “The downside, if we do vote for all three, is that of course the high-income earners get a tax break, but we’ve got to remember that that doesn’t occur until 2024, and indeed the Labor party have said they are going to repeal that if they were to gain power

    The Guardian gives us that, right under a headline that says –
    “Tax plan to pass after Pauline Hanson confirms support – politics live
    One Nation gives Coalition the numbers it needs to pass income tax plan in its entirety”.


    Centre Alliance seem to be assuming Labor will win the next election and will then repeal this new tax legislation, so they are voting for it today on the grounds a small taxcut is better than nothing.

    • Hotblack Desiato is the guitar keyboard player of the plutonium rock group Disaster Area, claimed to be the loudest band in the universe, and in fact the loudest sound of any kind, anywhere. So loud is this band that the audience usually listens from the safe distance of thirty seven miles away in a well-built concrete bunker. Disaster Area’s lavish performances went so far as to crash a space ship into the sun to create a solar flare.

  13. Off topic but how about this for high brow prime time tv on a flagship commercial channel –

    Funniest Ever Toddler Tantrums
    7:30PM – 8:30PM

    A compilation of the funniest clips of naughty toddlers carrying out terrible tantrums.


    • We shouldn’t be surprised, they’ve been doing these shows for years.

      (I’ve decided to link a version that’s less painful to watch)

  14. A reminder –

    Malcolm Turnbull offered refugee advice to Donald Trump

    …..the transcript of the call revealed Mr Turnbull had already discussed Australia’s tough immigration policies with the President’s son-in-law and key adviser Jared Kushner.

    “We have, as you know, taken a very strong line on national security and border protection here and when I was speaking with Jared Kushner just the other day, and one of your immigration advisers in the White House, we reflected on how our policies have helped to inform your approach,” Mr Turnbull told the President.

    “We are very much of the same mind.”

  15. Do not adjust your sets

    Pauline Hanson has left the door open to support the Turnbull government’s stalled business tax cuts, saying she may consider them if the government cracks down further on multinational tax avoidance.

    It is her latest position on the corporate tax package, having recently declared her “final decision” to not support tax cuts for businesses with annual revenue above $50m.

    “If they come to me and say we’re going after the multinationals, we’re going to actually get, you know, heaven help us if we can get it, $100bn out of it, then we’ll sit down and talk,” Hanson said.

    “You’ve got Google, Microsoft and Apple had an $8bn turnover and they only paid $148m in taxes this country.

  16. Lots of reminders of Turnbull’s social climbing past in that thread.

    I’ve been thinking for ages that Turnbull’s loathing of Shorten is actually jealousy. We all know Turnbull’s mother left when he was very young, maybe she couldn’t stand him any longer. Shorten though had a loving relationship with his mother until her death in 2014. Turnbull hates to think Shorten had something he didn’t have.

  17. View of the southern edge of the growing Halema‘uma‘u crater (middle right) during yesterday’s helicopter-assisted work at Kīlauea’s summit. The once-popular parking lot (closed since 2008) that provided access to Halema‘uma‘u is no longer–the parking lot fell into the crater this past week as more and more of the Kīlauea Crater floor slides into Halema‘uma‘u. The Crater Rim Drive road (middle) now ends at Halema‘uma‘u instead of the parking lot. The view is toward the west-northwest.

    • For “Kilauea Crater floor”, read “Kilauea Caldera floor”.

      (Overlook vent, within Halema`uma`u Crater, within Kilauea Caldera.)

  18. Russia welcomes US pullout from UNHRC, says council can work better now

    Russia has welcomed the United States’ pullout from the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC), saying the body has lost nothing and can operate more freely now.

    “I cannot say that the council lost anything,” Russia’s permanent representative at the UN office and other international organizations in Geneva, Gennady Gatilov, said Wednesday.

    “Moreover, I hope that in the wake of the United States’ walkout there will be less politicization, double standards and confrontation,” he added.

  19. The original colonialists racists and coming out of the woodwork:

    UK vows to vote against Palestine at UN Human Rights Council

    The UK has joined the US in condemning an alleged anti-Israel bias at the UN, pledging to vote against issues on Palestine brought by the Human Rights Council.

    Foreign Minister Boris Johnson yesterday urged the council to reform its treatment of Israel, objecting to the permanent Agenda Item 7 which deals with Israeli abuses in the Palestinian territories.

    “We share the view that the dedicated Agenda Item 7 focused solely on Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories is disproportionate and damaging to the cause of peace, and unless things change we shall vote next year against all resolutions introduced under Item 7,” Johnson said.

    Whilst some European states and Australia have also criticised Item 7 in the past, the Trump administration has raised the prospect of the US withdrawing from the council unless it is scrapped.

  20. Western Media Whitewash Yemen Genocide

    With the United Nations warning that millions of civilians could die from violence or starvation from the ongoing military siege of the Yemeni port city of Hodeida, there is no other way to describe what is happening except as “genocide”.

    The more than three-year war on Yemen waged by a Western-backed Saudi coalition has been arguably genocidal from the outset, with up to eight million people facing imminent starvation due to the years-long blockade on the Arabian country, as well as from indiscriminate air strikes.

    But the latest offensive on the Red Sea city of Hodeida threatens to turn the world’s already worst humanitarian disaster into a mass extermination…

    Since the Security Council meeting was a closed-door session, media reports did not indicate which members of the council voted down the Swedish call for an immediate end to hostilities. However, given that three permanent members of the council, the US, Britain and France, are militarily supporting the Saudi-led offensive on Hodeida, one can assume that these states blocked the call for a cessation.

    As the horror of Hodeida unfolds, Western media are reporting with a strained effort to whitewash the criminal role of the American, British and French governments in supporting the offensive. Western media confine their focus narrowly on the humanitarian plight of Hodeida’s inhabitants and the wider Yemeni population. But the media are careful to omit the relevant context, which is that the offensive on Hodeida would not be possible without the crucial military support of Western governments. If the Western public were properly informed, the uproar would be an embarrassing problem for Western governments and their servile news media.

  21. Trump’s military drops a bomb every 12 minutes, and no one is talking about it – Lee Camp

    Once every 12 minutes.

    The United States military drops an explosive with a strength you can hardly comprehend once every 12 minutes. And that’s odd, because we’re technically at war with—let me think—zero countries. So that should mean zero bombs are being dropped, right? …

    … those 70,000 bombs dropped by Bush—it was child’s play. DeGraw again: “[Obama] dropped 100,000 bombs in seven countries. He out-bombed Bush by 30,000 bombs and 2 countries.”

    You have to admit that’s impressively horrific. That puts Obama in a very elite group of Nobel Peace Prize winners who have killed that many innocent civilians. The reunions are mainly just him and Henry Kissinger wearing little hand-drawn name tags and munching on deviled eggs.

    However, we now know that Donald Trump’s administration puts all previous presidents to shame. The Pentagon’s numbers show that during George W. Bush’s eight years he averaged 24 bombs dropped per day, which is 8,750 per year. Over the course of Obama’s time in office, his military dropped 34 bombs per day, 12,500 per year. And in Trump’s first year in office, he averaged 121 bombs dropped per day, for an annual total of 44,096.

    Trump’s military dropped 44,000 bombs in his first year in office.

  22. Priest loses temper & slaps toddler during baptism:

    A video has emerged online which shows a French-speaking priest slapping a crying toddler during a baptism. A shocked father grabs the child out of the clergyman’s arms.

    The incident took place inside a church during a baptism ceremony, as seen in footage that emerged on Wednesday. Visibly scared, the toddler is crying, which apparently annoys the clergyman. After he fails to calm the child down, the priest ends up slapping the child, uttering the words “Calm down” in front of the toddler’s surprised and shocked parents. For a few moments, they look speechless but the father then grabs his child out of the priest’s arms.

  23. Now I know why Boris and T. may have been acting like loons, it’s all to do with substances in the water…:

    Cocaine in British waters affecting sex lives of eels, study finds

    Large quantities of cocaine being flushed into British lakes and rivers is having grave effects on eels, including sexual impairment and hyperactivity, a new study has revealed.

    The class-A drug is routinely ejected from sewage systems into British waters after passing through users’ bodies. Exposure to the illegal drug is rendering an already at-risk eel population incapable of having sex and reproducing, according to research by the University of Naples Federico II.

  24. Fox News edits Trump rally protestor holding up giant photo of Trump with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein

    Fox News edited out an embarrassing incident at a Trump rally in Minnesota today where a protestor interrupted the President and held up a giant photo of Trump with his arm around convicted pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein.

    Some alert viewers posted the unedited footage of the incident to Youtube, trumping Fox, which later edited out the incident and showed only a shot of Trump’s face as the protestor was escorted out by security from the Amsoil Arena in Duluth. The rally was in support of the GOP in anticipation of the 2018 Midterm elections.

    Here is the footage from the live feed before the Fox News edit (the second clip, although captured from a TV, shows the photo more clearly; the third video shows an on-the-ground point of view of the protestor)

  25. USGS Volcanoes
    1 hr ·

    What’s in a name?

    We’ve noticed that many of you have been wondering about a couple of things…1) whether or when Fissure 8’s name will change (or if it’s a volcano in and of itself), and 2) is the collapse of Halemaʻumaʻu Crater actually forming a caldera.

    This causes us to think about human nature. Psychological research states that the tendency to categorize things is an innate trait of humans. Putting things in well understood boxes shapes the way in which we understand the world.

    Then there’s a theory of physics called the “observer effect”, which states that once someone (or something) observes another object, the object itself changes. The same is true for the words we choose – when something is labeled, it changes how it’s perceived.

    So…what does all this have to do with naming geologic features? Well…by giving fissure 8 a formal name, or by defining the subsidence of Halemaʻumaʻu Crater as a caldera-forming event, it takes us out of the moment of observing and assessing and puts us into a place of defining and deciding.

    Also, the USGS does not formally assign names to features in Hawaii. That process is left up to a group of the local community including Hawaiian elders.

    Fissure 8 may eventually be formally named, but will never be designated a volcano in its own right, because the eruptions are occurring from the magma storage regions of Kīlauea Volcano. Our definition of fissure 8: the current active lava eruption site on Kīlauea Volcano.

    Halemaʻumaʻu Crater is subsiding – its walls are falling in on itself and it’s grown to nearly twice its original width and depth. Is this a nested caldera?? One definition of a caldera is a pit more than 1 mile in diameter. By that definition, Halemaʻumaʻu could be considered already there. To change the name of it would add confusion and not be educational — the terminology doesn’t matter so much — what matters is the mechanics of what is happening.

    #USGS #volcanoes #KilaueaErupts #KilaueaEruption #DeepThoughts #Halemaumau #LERZ #LeilaniEstates

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