The Big Budget Bribe.2018

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The 2018 Federal Budget will be announced tomorrow ( or what little parts already haven’t been) but a desperate Government hoping to bribe the voters into re-electing them.

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By all reports they are going to spend big on infrastructure as well as any other items the think will be looked upon favourably as well as giving tax cuts and other sweeteners immediately to the lower classes while the more affluent will have to wait a few years.

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Morrison and Mal are indeed trying to be Santa Claus. The hypocrisy is astounding by them as well as the complicate media,

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What happened to the DEBT AND DEFICIENT disaster   we were warned about day in and day out when it was much lower than what it is now? What about the Sovereign Risk to Australia,? WE were all going to be ruined unless it was bought back under control.

 

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This is the biggest bribe in place since Costello’s last one, which was the last trick to save their tired old Government from losing. This coming budget is about saving Turnbull/Morrison and the rest of Coalscums jobs.It will be talked up as brilliant by their sprukers and lickspittles , Labor will pillared from post to paddock if they don’t immediately agree to pass all the measures in the budget and then get out of the way and let the rightful rulers get on with their agenda with out question.

 

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Will the Public fall for it, or are they more savvy than given credit for?

Time will tell.

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3,079 thoughts on “The Big Budget Bribe.2018

  1. Shorten’s problem re immigration and refugees is that on the one hand we’re a deeply racist country, and on the other we still expect Shorten and the ALP to be our conscience and promise to do the right thing – even though most Australians would vote against it.

    The tenor of most questions to Shorten on refugees is, “Why won’t you stick your head up over the parapet so we can blow it off?”

    There are no easy answers. And the real problem is that the Coalition are allowed – nay, encouraged – to say and do whatever they like to pander to our worst instincts. That has to stop before we can even begin to have a serious discussion about answers. Asking Shorten without re-setting the tone of the conversation first is just avoiding the elephant in the room.

    • Spot on, Aguirre. I think Shorten might better respond to questions on refugees by asking whether Australians would like to have a referendum on what they want done about detention both on and off shore, the closure of the off-shore hellholes and every other aspect of the mess we’re in. Do Australians want to continue to spend the billions of dollars to be nasty as possible to refugees or are Australians ready and willing to treat them as people and stop the torture and abuse that is currently the policy? Whilst he is at it, Shorten might do well to put a number on the billions of dollars we’re paying to keep people in hellholes compared to the cost of treating them with respect and compassion and processing their claims as happens with anyone else wanting to come to this country.

    • I’m with you on the finacial cost of al lthis spite and hatred. Why nort spend the money on better thiungs, like resettling refugees here and helping them becaome valued citizens.

      The only problem with your referendum idea is it would have to be a plebiscite, because referendums are only for changes to the constitution.

      Just like the marriage equality plebiscite the results might surprise a lot of the bigots in this country and especially in parliament.

      As things stand the government’s willingness to pander to Hanson, just as Howard did, and Labor’s ineffective responses to the same old questions that get asked at every town hall meeting (and last night) are the biggest problems.

      I noticed last night Shorten mentioned our refugee intake. I thought he could have gone further on that by saying how this government has slashed the number of refugees we take through our humanitarian program and by promising to restore Labor’s goals. He didn’t do that, which I found disappointing.

  2. Also, this is how the ABC promote Shorten on Q&A:

    “Labor is leading in the polls but Bill Shorten is lagging as Preferred Prime Minister. Opposition Leader Bill Shorten joins Tony Jones on Q&A to answer your questions from the Shedley Theatre in Elizabeth, Adelaide.”

    Have to slip in a negative comment, don’t they? And about a metric that has absolutely no effect on electability.

    Shorten never escapes the ‘yes, but…’ treatment.

    • Abbott was being referred to as “our next Prime Minister” as far back as 2011. I don’t think Shorten has ever been referred to in those terms. Or only as a kind of threat from Liberal MPs. The question of “how many Newspolls does the man have to win before he’s taken seriously as a potential leader” doesn’t have an answer yet.

  3. More of the same

    The Labor right faction’s effort to secure a majority in its own right at the party’s national conference, which would help Bill Shorten navigate politically fraught debates, has been dealt a blow by a strong turnout for the left in Queensland.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/12/shortens-hopes-for-smooth-labor-conference-dashed-by-strong-showing-by-left

    Reckon Bill might just be able to negotiate, Kath and Kim.

    • Like Julia Gillard, Shorten is a brilliant negotiator. It must come in part from that union background. Only someone with Julia Gillard’s skill could have won the support of key independents and held a hung parliament together for three years. Shorten, if he’s faced with the same situation, (I think he’s going to have a decent majority) will be just as good or maybe even better.

      Abbott couldn’t negotiate, he lacks the intelligence. All he’s ever done in his life is bully people into doing what he wanted.

      Turnbull, the alleged brilliant former barrister, can’t negotiate either. He’s too damn arrogant, too convinced he is superior to everyone else on the planet to ever be able to accept anyone could possibly have a different opinion to his, or a better idea. His idea of the way it works is to demand things are done his way then to throw a massive sulk when inevitably the Senate or his own back bench disagree – again.

      We have no real evidence there’s any factional issues brewing for the Labor conference. So far it’s all media beat-ups, more “Kill Bill”, more of the media doing their best to scupper Labor’s chances.

  4. Leone

    I agree with you with regards to negotiating. Shorten knows that it’s usually give and take from each side. As he could negotiate with employers and employees. Abbott only wanted to take. Typical of that greedy man. The Greens only want things their way.

  5. Watched q&a when we got home from town. Bill was good. The less said about tony jones the better. Watched the audience when camera were on them. Most appeared to be paying attention. Lots of good applause. Could have helped a few people to decide how they’ll vote.

  6. Jon Page runs Boomerang Books, an online site I like to buy from. Here’s his comment on the NBN.

  7. Another Cash failure.

  8. First Thoughts On The Kim Trump Photo-Op Summit

    The photo-op summit between U.S. President Donald Trump and Chairman Kim Jong-un of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea went well. The visuals show North Korea and the United States as equal partners.

    The atmosphere was cordial.

    Both sides won

    The signed document is short. The core part:

    Convinced that the establishment of new U.S.-DPRK relations will contribute to the peace and prosperity of the Korean Peninsula and of the world, and recognizing that mutual confidence building can promote the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un state the following:

    The United States and the DPRK [Democratic People’s Republic of Korea] commit to establish new U.S.-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.
    The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.
    Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work towards the complete denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula.
    The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.

    Both sides commit to implement the above “fully and expeditiously”. Further talks will be held at the Foreign Minister/Secretary of State level.

    This is not a deal, just a declaration. The ‘denuclearization’ commitment by the DPRK is aspirational. There is no equal commitment from the U.S. side. There is no time frame. As predicted the DPRK will not give up its nukes. It had good reasons to build them and the same reasons will let it keep them.

    As long as talks are ongoing the DPRK will likely hold off on further nuclear and long range missile tests. The U.S. will likely stop large scale maneuvers in and around Korea. This is the ‘freeze for freeze’ which North Korea long wanted and which China and Russia actively supported.

    Further talks between the U.S. and North Korea will be slow walked and may not lead to significant progress in nuclear disarmament. Their main purpose is to hold off the U.S. while the real talks that between North and South Korea continue. This is what the “efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula” are really about.

    It is disappointing that the terrible human rights record of the United States was not mentioned during the talks.

    The North Korean side played its cards exceptionally well. It built its capabilities under enormous pressure and used it to elevate the country to a real player on the international stage. The “maximum pressure” sanction campaign against it is now defused. China, Russia and South Korea will again trade with North Korea.

    In pressing for an early summit Trump defused a conflict that otherwise might have ruined his presidency.

    The losers, for now, are the hawks in Japan, South Korea and Washington who tried their best to prevent this to happen. The winners are the people of Korea, Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump. Special prices go to President Moon Jae-in of South Korea and to Dennis Rodman who did their best to make this happen.

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/06/thoughts-on-the-kim-trump-photo-op-summit.html#comments

  9. US Public Was Misled on Trump-Kim Summit

    Establishment media was either unwilling or unable to accurately cover the intricacies of the Trump-Kim summit as well as Pyongyang’s serious diplomatic efforts, says Gareth Porter.

    By Gareth Porter

    For weeks, the corporate media have been saying that the Trump-Kim summit could have only two possible results: Either Trump will walk away angrily or Kim Jong Un will trick him into a deal in which he extracts concessions from Trump but never commits to complete denuclearization.

    The idea that North Korea could not possibly agree to give up its nuclear weapons or its intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) has become an article of faith among the journalists covering the issue for big media. Two themes that have appeared again and again in their coverage are that the wily North Koreans are “playing” Trump and that previous administrations had also been taken by North Korea after signing agreements in good faith.

    But the media have gotten it all wrong. They have assumed that North Korea cannot live without nuclear weapons—without making any effort to understand North Korea’s strategy in regard to nuclear weapons.They have invariably quoted “experts” who haven’t followed North Korean thinking closely but who express the requisite hostility toward the summit and negotiating an agreement with the Kim regime.

    One of the few Americans who can speak with authority on North Korea’s calculus regarding nuclear weapons is Joel S. Wit, who was senior adviser to the U.S. negotiator with North Korea, Ambassador Robert L. Gallucci, from 1993 to 1995, and who from 1995 to 1999 was coordinator for the 1994 “Agreed Framework” with North Korea. More importantly, Wit also participated in a series of informal meetings with North Korean officials in 2013 about North Korea’s thinking on its nuclear weapons.

    At a briefing on the Trump-Kim summit last week sponsored by the website 38 North, which he started and still manages, Wit made it clear that this dismissal of North Korea’s willingness to agree to denuclearization is misguided. “Everyone underestimates the momentum behind what North Korea is doing,” he said. “It’s not a charm offensive or a tactical trick.”

    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/06/11/us-public-being-misled-on-trump-kim-summit/

  10. A Russian perspective:

    Trump-Kim Historic Summit Concludes With Ambitious Agreement

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) – The first-ever summit of US President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has concluded with an agreement in which Pyongyang reaffirmed its commitment to the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula, while the United States pledged to provide security guarantees.

    The final document is made up of only four points: the agreement to establish new bilateral relations, decision to join efforts to “build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean peninsula,” Pyongyang’s confirmed commitment to denuclearization, and the repatriation of the remains of the US military personnel, either prisoners of war or missing in action after the 1950-1953 war…

    North Korea’s neighbors have welcomed the potential progress in the resolution of the crisis.

    Russia is not only welcoming the potential progress but is ready to provide assistance in the form of political support or specific proposals, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov told Sputnik.

    Ryabkov expressed hope that the movement forward on the Korean issue would unblock the possibility for economic cooperation on the Korean peninsula.

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that the very fact of the meeting was possible, but noted that the Russian side has not seen any documents yet.

    China, in turn, said that the results of the Trump-Kim meeting were an important step toward denuclearization and lasting peace on the peninsula.

    Japanese Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga has refrained from an assessment of the summit but expressed hope that North Korea would change its policy in the future.

    https://sputniknews.com/world/201806121065336655-trump-kim-summit-agreement/

  11. Good morning Dawn Patrollers. It’s a large edition today!

    Peter Hartcher is unconvinced by the Singapore outcome.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/the-rhetoric-was-positive-but-trump-kim-agreement-may-be-fantasy-20180612-p4zl1z.html
    Greg Sheridan says that there was diplomacy aplenty but little proof of change.
    https://outline.com/8zwhGZ
    The Guardian view on Trump in Singapore: a huge win – for North Korea.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/12/the-guardian-view-on-trump-in-singapore-a-huge-win-for-north-korea
    And Nick O’Malley reminds us of Kim’s despotic track record.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/we-should-remember-who-kim-is-and-who-his-victims-are-20180612-p4zkxi.html
    Sam Roggerveen gives us three reasons why Singapore had t happen,.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/three-reasons-why-the-singapore-summit-had-to-happen-20180612-p4zl0d.html
    The SMH editorial gets behind the new legislation to curb foreign influences.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/blocking-foreign-meddling-in-our-affairs-20180612-p4zkzm.html
    In an interesting contribution Nicholas Stuart examines the way we remember the fallen of our wartime dead.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/war-killing-and-memorials-how-much-to-remember-the-dead-20180612-p4zkxs.html
    Matt Wade looks at the latest NAB wellbeing index figures and says the contrast between the gloomy survey and upbeat growth figures was a neat reminder that GDP is an inadequate indicator of our collective welfare. He urges the Treasurer to pay more attention to this metric.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/the-small-improvements-that-could-deliver-a-big-boost-to-our-wellbeing-20180612-p4zl17.html
    All is not well in Liberal land. And also there is its infestation by religious extremes that is going on.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/liberal-anger-over-factional-deal-20180612-p4zkwr.html
    Paul Kelly wonders if Australia sleepwalking away from its future?
    https://outline.com/7U7SGk
    Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner may be working as unpaid White House advisers, but the couple isn’t doing too badly with their side gigs, bringing in at least $US81 million ($106 million) of outside income.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/unpaid-advisers-ivanka-trump-and-jared-kushner-made-us81-million-last-year-20180613-p4zl2s.html
    Is this the start of a death spiral?
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/tesla-to-cut-thousands-of-jobs-in-search-for-profit-20180613-p4zl2w.html
    A new term perhaps? Toll gouging.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/costly-catch-for-motorists-driving-on-first-stage-of-f6-extension-20180612-p4zkxj.html
    Is this what our nation has become?
    https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-and-relationships/abused-at-the-supermarket-for-being-muslim-20180612-p4zkwv.html
    John Collett writes on how financial abuse of elders is likely to grow.
    https://www.smh.com.au/money/super-and-retirement/financial-abuse-of-elders-is-likely-to-grow-20180608-p4zke8.html
    Phil Coorey tells us that amove within the Nationals for the party to broaden its appeal beyond its traditional rural base will receive another push today.
    https://outline.com/gxUz4u
    Eliminating the second highest tax bracket would help “wipe out bunching” and reduce endemic levels of legal tax avoidance, one of Australia’s leading tax experts says, in comments that are likely to be seized on by the Turnbull government to help push their $144 billion income tax package through a resistant Parliament.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/flat-income-tax-rate-will-limit-people-gaming-the-system-researcher-20180612-p4zkza.html
    Australia’s migrant intake will be substantially down this financial year – possibly 25,000 below the 190,000 planned figure – led by reductions in the number of skilled and sponsored working visas.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/13/australias-immigration-rate-to-fall-again-as-work-visa-approvals-drop
    Anna Patty reports that the question of whether food delivery bicycle riders are employees or contractors will be tested in what is expected to become the most significant legal case on the issue in more than 15 years. Food delivery company Foodora will face allegations that it engaged in sham contracting that resulted in the underpayment of workers who were classified as contractors instead of employees.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace/foodora-faces-allegations-of-sham-contracts-and-underpaying-workers-20180612-p4zkzw.html
    The NSW government will place a 10 per cent tax on all online gambling bets when the state budget is handed down by Treasurer Dominic Perrottet next week. The point of consumption tax will take effect from January 1 next year, mimicking a Victorian tax of 8 per cent on online bookmakers introduced in that state’s budget last month.
    https://outline.com/nnAYv4
    Aboriginal organisations say it’s no secret that the New South Wales child protection system is failing, as outlined in a scathing report the state’s government had kept under wraps for the past 18 months. And Pru Goward’s in the crosshairs yet again
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/13/calls-for-nsw-aboriginal-child-and-family-commissioner-in-wake-of-scathing-report
    AMP shares have slumped more than 80 per cent but things could get much worse, with little prospect for upside.
    https://www.smh.com.au/money/investing/why-amp-shares-are-a-terrible-investment-20180612-p4zkz4.html
    Australia’s best financial advisers are rushing for the exits at our biggest financial institutions in the wake of the royal commission.
    https://outline.com/Sjzc5v
    And Dover Financial Group lured financial advisers by offering to postpone payment of annual licence fees for a year or more, but the collapsed company is now calling for immediate payments of those debts, leaving planners, who are already worried about their future, furious.
    https://outline.com/BBWWBy
    An audit of police’s firearms registry in Victoria throws up some alarming findings sparking anger among gun owners. Dozens of guns have been lost.
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/missing-guns-fresh-doubts-over-victoria-police-firearms-registry-20180612-p4zl1i.html
    Former soldier C. August Elliott (what a name!) writes that disbanding might be the only option for Australia’s special ops.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/disbanding-might-be-the-only-option-for-australia-s-special-ops-20180611-p4zkqq.html
    White House trade adviser Peter Navarro has apologized for saying Justin Trudeau earned “a special place in hell” with his response to Donald Trump’s complaints about US-Canada trade.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/12/trump-trudeau-navarro-apology-special-place-insult-trade
    Josh Frydenberg says the NEG won’t stop investment in renewables, but the Government’s weak emissions reduction target indicates otherwise, writes Giles Parkinson.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/frydenbergs-neg-and-weak-emissions-targets-wont-help-renewables,11589
    Adele Ferguson looks at the legacy of Virgin Australia’s John Borghetti.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/cheaper-tickets-better-service-the-legacy-of-high-flying-borghetti-20180612-p4zkwg.html
    Stephen Bartholomeusz calls him “Teflon John” though.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/teflon-john-s-financial-outcomes-didn-t-match-his-ambition-20180612-p4zkxv.html
    An investigation into the conduct of Australian Public Service Commissioner John Lloyd could be dropped upon his retirement on August 8. How convenient!
    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/politics/federal/john-lloyd-investigation-could-be-dropped-after-resignation-20180610-p4zkn6.html
    Nicole Hasham report that Adani is seeking to dodge federal scrutiny of its plan to build a pipeline pumping billions of litres of water from a river in drought-stricken central Queensland to feed its Carmichael mega-mine.
    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/politics/federal/adani-shuns-water-trigger-despite-drought-20180612-p4zkz1.html
    US Special Counsel Robert Mueller warned that Russian intelligence services have active “interference operations” in the US and asked a judge to limit the pretrial evidence provided to a Russian firm indicted over meddling in the 2016 election.
    https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/robert-mueller-warns-of-active-russian-meddling-seeks-disclosure-lid-20180613-p4zl33.html
    Michael Pascoe writes, “It’s bemusing to read the myriad excuses suggested for fewer investor housing loans – banks’ tougher credit standards, APRA, sundry anti-foreigner laws, Chinese capital constraints, interest-only loans rate hike, the royal commission. Everything except the most obvious reason: all investors are not entirely stupid.”
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/money/property/2018/06/12/housing-investors-cool-michael-pascoe/
    After a nine-year hiatus, Paul Hogan is coming back to the big screen. The role shouldn’t be too much of a stretch – Hogan, 78, is to play himself in The Very Excellent Mr Dundee.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/2018/06/12/paul-hogan-dundee-back/
    A Catholic priest who presides over two parishes in Melbourne’s south has been ordered to take leave while he is investigated for allegedly breaching child safety laws. Archbishop Denis Hart has asked Father Paul Newton, the parish priest for St Kevin’s Ormond and St Patrick’s Murrumbeena, to take a period of administrative leave while parishioners’ concerns are probed.
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/parish-priest-stood-down-over-child-safety-concerns-20180612-p4zl0i.html
    So Channel Nine has swung David Warner into the line-up for its one-day commentary team. What next? Perhaps Barnaby Joyce will chip in with pitch reports. Kate Halfpenny explains why David Warner’s new Nine job is a massive error of judgement.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/entertainment/tv/2018/06/12/david-warner-nine-job/

    Cartoon Corner

    A big catch up from Mark Knight.



    Mark David’s still getting stuck into Barnaby.

    As is Alan Moir!

    Glen Le Lievre with a cheeky one!

    Fiona Katauskas in Singapore.

    Zanetti on Singapore.

    Here’s one from Matt Golding that didn’t make it to the collection at the bottom.

    Jon Kudelka sums up the Singapore meeting quite nicely.
    https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/9ac7fe9bc67e96601539f81385111f62
    David Pope’s back with a beauty about the CBA.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/act/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0.html
    Lots more in here.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/best-of-fairfax-cartoons-june-13-2018-20180612-h11alu.html

  12. I really can’t be bothered reading more of the zillions of words written or yet to be written about the Trump/Kim Jong Un “deal” because after watching a bit of the meeting on TV and after reading the article form the New York Times posted by GL earlier I’ve seen more than enough to draw my own conclusions.

    Talk about a nothing event! Two morons with weight problems, bad haircuts and gigantic egos waddle into camera range from opposite directions, stand on a red carpet and shake hands. I saw that bit, it looked like two toddlers being sent out by their mums to make friends after one has broken the other’s favourite toy. Then they waddle inside and have a chat. They stroke one another’s egos for a while then sign a meaningless agreement that will be ignored by both as soon as they return to their respective countries. Trump, of course, would boast about it to anyone who would listen. We won’t know what Kim Jong Un said afterwards, we are not allowed to have that information. I suspect it would involve some gloating about getting the better of that dotard.

    That’s all that happened. They couldn’t even stick to the traditional script for these meetings by pledging to denuclearise, they just said North Korea would work towards it while the US is free to go on building nukes. . When will that denuclearisation happen? We have no idea because the statement was so vague.Some time after they both turn the planet into a wasteland, maybe?

    We have seen these “agreements” before, none of them ever lasted for much longer than the plane trips home by those who signed them. So it will be with this one.

    Need proof?

    Here’s a list of the agreements (might be missing a few) signed by various North Korean dictators over the last 35 years – not all were with the US, of course. Not one of them was kept. Thanks to Tweeter @JamieOGrady for this.

    The Nobel Peace Prize is a fact – awarded to South Korean president Kim Dae-jung for “”for his work for democracy and human rights in South Korea and in East Asia in general, and for peace and reconciliation with North Korea in particular”.
    https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2000/

    That really went well, didn’t it. Just count all the pledges to denuclearise in that list. Here’s the 1993 agreement between the US and North Korea.

    All we have is a meaningless piece of paper signed by two twits, neither of whom have the slightest intention of sticking to their “deal”. Pffft!

  13. It’s okay. The rwnj’s had their phone tree working hard on abc774 this morning praising trump to the hilt. Stop the world, I want to get off.

  14. leonetwo

    All the agreements post 2000 shouldn’t count. Dubya Bush after being elected blew up the S Korean +N Korean moves toward peace and the ‘Sunshine Policy” . Once Dubya named NK as part of the axis of evil and invaded Iraq NK was never going to stop until they had a nuclear weapon.

    As for the reaction to the current agreement. There should be a bit more hoping it works despite of Trump and less hoping it fails because of Trump.

    • Anything Trump signs could also be discounted in the future as the work of a madman. Whether or not you think a lot of past agreements should be discounted is not the point. The point is this has happened before, many times, and no matter who signed those agreements they have all resulted in a big, fat nothing. This time will be no different. it was just another ego trip publicity stunt.

      There’s nothing in the latest “deal” that could “work” or give hope, it’s just pointless blather.

      “DPKR will think about denuclearisation at some unspecified time in the future while the US can keep on building as many nukes as they like” ” isn’t much cause for hope. There’s nothing there about DPRK giving up it’s nuclear weapons, or stopping production of them, ditto for the US, so we still have two madmen with their fingers on big red buttons, ready to start hurling missiles whenever one of them feels upset, or is having a bad hair day.

      About the only part of this agreement that will ever happen is the repatriation of the remains of war dead. That will be done because both leaders just adore military photo opportunities and those don’t come much better than a solemn-faced leader making a speech while flag-draped coffins are unloaded from a military aircraft.

      I had no expectations at all of this meeting, apart from believing it would achieve nothing but a lot of media hype, so I suppose my expectations were met.

  15. Prime minister Malcolm Turnbull has pledged to deliver a national apology to the survivors, victims and families of institutional child sexual abuse and said his government has so far accepted 104 of the 122 recommendations made by the royal commission.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/13/turnbull-to-deliver-national-apology-for-child-sexual-abuse

    It will include a statement saying how proud he is that the royal commission was set up by the L/NP.

  16. “repatriation of the remains of war dead. ” True. No matter the motive. It’s great. Another thing: Trump might be awarded the Nobel Prize … How low!

  17. Such a precious little petal.Deletes anything she doesn’t like on her Facebook page, now she has run away from Twitter. Hiding from the voters isn’t the best election strategy.

    Mayo candidate Georgina Downer leaves Twitter citing ‘trolls’ and bad language
    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-13/georgina-downer-deletes-twitter-account-in-mayo-campaign/9865002?pfmredir=sm

    I don’t think trolls or bad language had much to do with it, she just can’t take criticism and won’t answer any questions that are not going to put a good light on Liberal policies.

    • Same on Facebook, she has been deleting polite questions, just doesn’t want to talk about anything but her campaign spin.

      Like this –

    • “Hiding from the voters isn’t the best election strategy.”

      Not sure. It worked for Barnaby. When Abbott and Turnbul were hiding somewhere, the polls usually were improving for them.

  18. Good morning Dawn Patrollers. Quite varied fare today,

    Brian Burston is about to deliver a formal goodbye to PHON.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/it-should-be-called-gone-nation-brian-burston-quits-one-nation-20180613-p4zl76.html
    Household leverage may have peaked, house prices are falling, and credit conditions are tightening. The combination of the three should have all of us asking: what next?
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/boom-turning-to-bust-is-an-aussie-financial-crisis-on-the-cards-20180613-p4zl94.html
    RBA governor Philip Lowe says low wage growth is creating a group of people who feel left out of Australia’s prosperity. That’s something for business leaders to take notice of.
    https://outline.com/cAFJUn
    David Crowe reckons that the new foreign register will become a flashpoint over who has ties to China.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/foreign-register-a-flashpoint-is-certain-over-who-has-ties-to-beijing-20180613-p4zl79.html
    Barnaby Joyce is expected to attend the NSW National Party state conference this weekend where he is unlikely to receive the warmest of welcomes.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/barnaby-joyce-warned-of-cold-reception-at-nsw-nationals-conference-20180613-p4zl9e.html
    Now he’s got North Korea out of the way Trump declares the media to be America’s biggest enemy. The guy’s bonkers!
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/donald-trump-says-north-korea-no-longer-a-nuclear-threat-20180613-p4zlb3.html
    The SMH editorial says that the agreement says nothing about how denuclearisation will proceed, or how it will be verified. Without clearer evidence that North Korea really is serious this time, the summit’s achievements amount to virtually nothing. And to achieve that, Mr Trump has conceded quite a lot. It concludes with “The world looks at the antics of Donald Trump and wonders: is he just a buffoon, in power by mistake, or is he very, very clever – the ideal adversary for rogue nations led by criminals and con artists? The summit, on balance, suggests the former. Australia has been warned.”
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/summit-of-illusions-has-a-clear-message-20180613-p4zl86.html
    The mainstream media will now try to normalise Trump’s abnormal behaviour by focusing only on the “optics” of this week’s “historic” Singapore meeting with Chairman Kim Jong-un writes Martin Hirst.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/the-singapore-summit-chaos-is-the-new-normal,11593
    If Trump’s video for Kim is our best hope for the future, we’re all doomed
    https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/if-trump-s-video-for-kim-is-best-hope-for-the-future-we-re-all-doomed-20180613-p4zl7d.html
    Trust Trump to snatch comedy from the jaws of victory.
    https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/trust-trump-to-snatch-comedy-from-the-jaws-of-victory-20180613-p4zl5j.html
    Greg Sheridan asks, “Has North Korea’s young dictator, Kim Jong-un, comprehensively outplayed US President Donald Trump?”
    https://outline.com/XegcWK
    Award-winning journalist Joanne McCarthy says Australia’s bishops still don’t get it – things have changed. An excellent contribution,
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/joanne-mccarthy-australia-s-bishops-still-don-t-get-it-things-have-changed-20180613-p4zl75.html
    Tony Wright has a thoughtful piece on the announcement about the royal commission recommendations.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/the-great-unburdening-after-a-spilling-of-secrets-comes-hope-of-national-healing-20180613-p4zl96.html
    South Australia will lead the charge to make sure churches around the country put the safety of children first — even if it means shattering the secrecy of the confessional. SA will in October become the first state to axe protections long afforded religious leaders, which have allowed them to keep secret admissions about child abuse made in the course of a confession, under the “seal of the confessional”.
    https://outline.com/thhZnj
    Leading child abuse advocates have responded with anger and dismay after the Catholic Church immediately pushed back against new laws that would force priests to break the seal of confession.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2018/06/13/child-abuse-royal-commission-advocate-outrage/
    Meanwhile the school chaplains program has been labelled discriminatory in a test case against rules requiring pastoral care workers to be connected to organised religion. In a case that could have significant repercussions on the controversial program, the requirement that potential employees of Access Ministries, one of the groups that provides pastoral care, must be Christian will be challenged in the Victorian civil and administrative tribunal.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/14/school-chaplains-legal-challenge-argues-program-is-discriminatory
    Safe access to abortion clinics has finally been mandated in NSW and is being debated in Queensland, while “free speech” continues to be used as an excuse for harassment, writes Jacinta Coehlo.
    https://independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/abortion-and-the-free-speech-warriors,11592
    The ACT’s biggest electricity provider plans to pass on its maximum allowable price rise of 14.29 per cent from July.
    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/act/actewagl-customers-to-face-full-price-rise-from-july-20180613-p4zl6y.html
    John Warhurst has his say on the high stakes Ramsay Centre controversy.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/ramsay-centre-controversy-a-high-stakes-affair-20180612-p4zl1d.html
    Nothing to see here. Let’s move on.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/13/high-court-asked-to-block-sa-royal-commission-from-calling-witnesses
    Peter Martin explains how there’s a case for taxing women more lightly than men, and Scott Morison has helped make the point.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/pink-tax-versus-blue-tax-the-case-for-taxing-women-lightly-20180613-p4zl34.html
    Michael Kirby is less than elated with the outcome of the Singapore meeting.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/i-ll-rejoice-in-trump-s-triumph-when-kim-opens-his-gulags-to-scrutiny-20180613-p4zl5h.html
    Dr Patricia Ranald tells us about new research that shows that increased market power of global corporations is driving global income inequality.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/it-s-time-to-stop-giving-more-rights-to-global-corporations-20180611-p4zkrq.html
    For the first time in three years, Chinese investment in Australia has dropped.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/chinese-investors-wary-of-australia-as-tensions-linger-20180613-p4zl2u.html
    Jacinta Keast writes that amid the many unknowns and unknowables of the Trump-Kim Singapore agreement one thing is certain: it represents a strengthening of China’s position in north-east Asia.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/china-the-winner-from-the-trump-kim-deal-20180613-p4zl71.html
    International law scholar Ben Saul says that Australia should show the will to prosecute elite soldiers or risk shame.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/show-the-will-to-prosecute-elite-soldiers-or-risk-shame-20180612-p4zkxh.html
    The country’s “mental health architecture is stuffed” and should be reviewed by the Productivity Commission after years of rewarding activity instead of outcomes, a mental health commissioner says.
    https://outline.com/CadPpF
    Greg Jericho explains how the housing market is cooling but the affordability crisis isn’t over.
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2018/jun/14/the-housing-market-is-cooling-but-the-affordability-crisis-isnt-over
    Now it’s Ron Medich’s daughter who is in the dock. Some families!
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/ron-medich-s-daughter-accused-of-fraud-over-luxury-hotel-stay-20180607-p4zk2k.html
    Independent federal MP Andrew Wilkie has secured agreement from the commonwealth ombudsman to launch another investigation into the robo-debt program.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/13/centrelinks-deeply-flawed-robo-debt-to-face-new-investigation
    Allowing companies to sue is a threat to free speech, writes contributing editor for The Monthly, Paddy Manning. At the very same time that the banking royal commission is proving beyond doubt the value of the investigative journalism practised by reporters like Adele Ferguson, whose “Banking Bad” series helped trigger the inquiry, the NSW government has come up with a proposal to restore the right of companies to sue for defamation.
    https://www.michaelwest.com.au/companies-to-sue-for-defamation-nip-this-in-the-bud/
    Pru Goward’s under a lot of pressure.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/13/i-have-to-go-pru-goward-hangs-up-on-interview-over-secret-report
    Robbie Williams is being accused of accepting “blood money” from a murderous dictator, amid sharp backlash to the British popstar’s decision to headline the World Cup opening ceremony in Moscow today.
    https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/shame-on-you-robbie-williams-excoriated-for-headlining-world-cup-opening-ceremony-20180613-p4zlb6.html
    Thirteen people have been charged following a series of raids across north-west Melbourne related to a “sophisticated” ice ring being investigated by police. The operation forms part of Victoria Police’s Operation Ezekiel, a year-long investigation into the distribution and trafficking of methamphetamines, with alleged links to organised crime groups.
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/raids-on-sophisticated-drug-ring-results-in-13-people-arrested-and-charged-20180613-p4zlb1.html
    Michael Cohen, the longtime personal lawyer of Donald Trump, was preparing to part ways with the legal team that has been representing him in federal court in New York, according to multiple reports yesterday.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/13/michael-cohen-trump-lawyer-parting-ways-legal-team-investigation
    The Australian Taxation Office says it will be more closely scrutinising work-related clothing and laundry expenses this year and is particularly focused on what many people mistakenly believe is a “standard deduction”, or minimum amount that can be claimed without providing receipts.
    https://outline.com/SqzMwb
    Why some Western companies are distancing themselves from the World Cup brand.
    https://theconversation.com/why-some-western-companies-are-distancing-themselves-from-the-world-cup-brand-96989
    Adelaide is now the nation’s most affordable capital city, with a median house price of $470,000, according to new figures from the Real Estate Institute of Australia. Hobart’s is $492,000.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/money/property/2018/06/13/capital-city-median-house-prices-2018-hobart/

    Cartoon Corner

    Mark David’s take on Singapore.

    And more on this from Peter Broelman.

    Snap!

    Zanetti sees the deal’s polarising effect.

    And one from Mark Knight.

    Ros Emerson with braggard Trump.

    Jon Kudelka puts the agreement into perspective.

    Seen Leahy with a hidden Singapore outcome.

    This says a lot.

    From the US.

    David Pope with Singapore celebrations.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/act/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0.html
    Jon Kudelka goes all the way with Barnaby.
    https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/2fef6bfeb114b2f161490938f7879ebb
    And several very good cartoons are in here.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/best-of-fairfax-cartoons-june-14-2018-20180613-h11c9e.html

    • HI Grav,

      There are only two things I recommend, because I believe they made a difference. One is Manuka Honey for bedsores, and Tumeric with piperine (in freshly ground black pepper) for tumours. The tumeric seemed to work on( my dogs, and with one person whose lung cancer. is slowing in growth (She is supposed to be gone by now). This may be because of anything and is just co-incidence. (It is not scientific but it can’t hurt to try. is my thinking.)

      The Manuka honey from New Zealand, bought from a health store because it had a higher concentration of whatever is in it ($25 for little jar), I put on Arthur’s pressure sores after 3 months of treatment by the Home Nurses failed to do anything. I insisted they put honey on before the dressings and his sores healed. He never got another. It could be a coincidence but I do not think so. Any sign of a skin break, I used the honey (note: avoid supermarket manuka for this).

      I am just tossing this into the ring.

  19. Gravel,

    healthwise I have diagnosed myself as having the yo-yo syndrome. All is as well as it can be however. Do
    hope all is well with you and Razz.

    • Ah, the well known yo-yo problem. Razz can relate to that very well. We are both exhausted at the moment, been into town all week with three appointments and another on Friday. As the weather is supposed to turn nasty we are even thinking of not going to the footy on Saturday, but don’t tell the grandsons that.

      Found some fantastic bed socks, lined with something like fleece that is keeping Razz’s legs warm and hopefully helping in the healing of her pressure sores on her right foot. Bought one pair last week and she loved them, so went back Tuesday and bought 3 more before they sold out.

    • Janice –

      It’s so good to see you back, you have been missed.

      I know all about yo-yo syndrome, I also have a self-diagnosed case of it.

  20. Why do journalists keep telling us One Nation has lost the balance of power in the Senate now Burston has left the party? ON never really held a balance of power, Hanson and her mob voted with the government 99% of the time, the party has always been just a branch of the Liberal Party.

    The real balance of power is held by the whole cross-bench, if two of them vote against a bill also opposed by Labor and the Greens then that bill is dead. When you have a failing government, a PM who can’t negotiate and a senate leader – Cormann – who tries hard but isn’t great at herding cats, then controversial bills, like the tax cuts for big business one, are not going to be passed.

    It just shows us how silly these political assumptions can be. ON was assumed to have the balance of power because it initially had four senators, regardless of the firm right-wing voting of the party. An assumption like that can’t hold, not when there is a big cross-bench of publicity-hungry loons who will say anything to get a headline, then change their minds half a dozen times before the vote happens.

  21. OK – I’ve been not watching the ABC;’s “Back in time for Dinner” thing because Annabel Crabb irritates me so much. Also because I saw the British version and enjoyed it although I knew it painted a false, stereotyped picture, I knew the local version would be full of rubbish written by people who were not even on the planet during the earlier decades done over by this show, or would have been kids for much of it.

    So – I saw this tweet, realised my assessment had been spot on, wondered where the hell they had found information that told them people ate crap like this in the 1970s and decided to have a look.

    Oh! My! Sainted! Aunt!

    What a load of tosh!

    I was a young, working wife in the first half of the 1970s, then I gave up work to be a stay-at-home mum while I had kids. I planned to go back to work when they were all past the toddler stage, and I did, in 1982. For a few years in the late 70s I had a one day a week job (more if they needed me) as a book-keeper at a local pharmacy, I was offered the job so I took it, although we didn’t need the small income from it. I also volunteered at the preschool my eldest attended, worked on a couple of committees, had friends I went out with and definitely did not spend “eleven hours a day” trapped in the kitchen by “domestic duties”.

    As for the “men were not allowed in the kitchen” line – rubbish! My then husband, like many of the men I knew, liked to cook and spent a lot of time doing that.

    I became a home owner in 1975. The decor shown as “typical 1970s” was ridiculous. Our home had off-white walls, no wallpaper, no huge, overstuffed striped lounges and no orange or brown anything. My kitchen had timber doors (real wood) and white Laminex benchtops. My stove – white, and much the same in looks as the one I have now – had real temperatures on the oven control.

    I never bought or cooked Spam. I don’t think I’ve ever eaten it. I’ve never wanted to make smoked cod roe mousse, but if I had I would never have served fried bread with the crusts still on as an accompaniment Dinner parties and BBQs were all the go among my friends, we all loved to cook and experiment, even the blokes and I often had to cook dinner for “the boss”. It was no big deal. If I had cooked duck it would have come with a sauce, not just plonked on a serving plate with a few peas and some whole onions. This woman didn’t even make gravy, let alone something really nice like a cherry or orange sauce, both all the go in the 1970s. And – one duck does not serve three hungry adults, there’s barely enough meat on a duck for two. Pineapple and cherries in Grand Marnier, with whipped cream? Gross! Never would have wanted to eat or make that. Cream and fresh pineapple do not mix. After that meagre meal I’d have gone home still hungry.

    Cask wine was fine for BBQs and casual meals at home, but not good enough for impressing an important guest.

    The family dinner of banana meatloaf and tinned salad – oh my Lord! Another meagre meal. I’ve never heard of banana meatloaf, the very thought is nauseating. Again, no sauce, not even tomato sauce on the table. Meatloaf needs gravy, or sauce, it’s too dry on its own. And tinned “salad”? I would never have dreamed of using that, if I’d known it existed. Tinned pasta – ugh!

    The kids not cleaning up after themselves or helping with drying dishes – FFS! I grew up in the 1950s/1960s. My sisters and I, at the age the ABC’s kids are, were expected to wash up and dry dishes after dinner, we didn’t much like that, but we did it. We even worked out a list showing whose turn it was to wash or dry. We were also expected to clean up after we had made our own breakfast, lunch or snacks, so we did that.

    The woman in this family seems incredibly stupid and incredibly useless. Surely she has a few basic cooking skills and would have known how to roast a bird. The British show was the same, the “mother” had no idea and no cooking skills at all – or that’s what the script demanded. The ABC’s mum whining about being stuck in the kitchen was very annoying, I suppose she has been doing that for each decade. If the script demanded she go back to work then why couldn’t she have gone back to work as a doctor, or a teacher? Why did she have to have the stereotypical female job of receptionist? This isn’t reality TV, it’s a scripted bit of fluff designed to push a certain fantasy image of our past, just like the British version it’s based on did.

    Women did work full time in the 1970s, and long before that, often going back to work weeks after having a baby. It was the done thing in my profession – teaching. You had six weeks maternity leave, and if you wanted to be paid for it you had to come back and work for a certain specified time, then you were paid for the leave. Many female teachers did as they do now – put their infants into day care to go back to work. I decided not to go back until I’d had my kids and spent time with them while they were small. We could afford to do that back then, now, in the same situation. I’d have to go back to work. I wonder if they are going to mention the difference between women in average circumstances being able to afford to be stay at home mums in the 1970s and 1980s compared to both parents having to work now just to survive?

    I won’t be watching any more episodes of this show, one was more than enough.

    • I NEVER watch AC unless she appears on the screen by accident, then I quickly switch channel. I just can’t bear her old-fashioned churchy girlish dresses, hair style and smug grin. And yet she’s ever so popular by the sound of it. She’s everywhere, pretends to be qualitfied to present any program that’s offered to her.

    • I can’t stand Ms.Crabb so haven’t even given that show a glance. From your description of the episode you watched, the people depicted obviously lived on another planet.

    • janice

      Definitely from another planet. One where women are braindead and useless.

      It was all so fake. The family were Italian/Australian, apparently. In the 1970s I lived in the Riverina where there was a huge Italian population. A lot of my friends had parents who had migrated after the war. Their homes did have a certain Italian look, but there was nothing like the over-the-top decor in this episode. I’ve never seen anything like it, not where I lived, not in Sydney, not anywhere.

      It’s supposed to be all about our changing taste in food over the decades, but it’s more like the imaginings of a bunch of 21 year olds who were given the British script and told to follow it to the letter. The similarities between the two series are amazing.

    • I have never seen a like that and would not know how to cook it. Tinned salad? My Mum would not have known what that was and I am sure it was never on our supermarket shelves. The only pasta I knew of was Macaroni Cheese and macaroni in custard as a kids dessert, similar to rice custard. I know I have never put a boiled egg in the middle of a meatloaf in my life. In fact my mum never made meatloaf. Mince vy in grawent into a pie or was served with mash and veges or as curried with rice. And fruit was never never never served with meat.

      Posh people might have put cherries and pineapple on their meat or fish, but never in our working class household. Fruit was dessert with custard or cream.

    • CA must want to make a few truckloads of money from the commercial networks. Whatever commercial network puts in the winning bid will, of course, be looking to get back some of the cost by flogging lots and lots of advertising space. Will listeners take to having their commentary interrupted every five minutes with an ad break? I think not.

      Not a good move. I am no cricket fan, but I think this stinks. A lot.

    • I would drop my passing interest in cricket if they sell out the game in this way.

      Cricket is either a national icon and shared as such on the public broadcaster, or it is a purely commercial operation and all free publicity via the taxpayer should cease, starting with the Prime Minister’s cricket game, taxpayer-funded attendance of politicians at matches, and the loss any taxpayer funding of any kind.

  22. The current system isn’t broken: don’t try to fix it

    The citizenship minister, Alan Tudge, said Australia could move to a locally designed test focusing on conversational English, rather than using international exams.

    “If you have a lot of people not speaking the language then you start to get social fragmentation and we don’t want to see that happen,” Tudge told Sky News.

    He said the government was considering extending the test to make it a requirement for permanent residency.

    “We’re looking at whether or not we can have a reasonable, basic conversational English language requirement at that stage,” Tudge said.

    Fizza and Co going for the xenophobic vole.

  23. I have no idea who Stephen Dziedzic is but !!!

    She’s the Foreign Minister renowned for self-discipline and her care with words.

    But Julie Bishop cut a little loose when she fronted the Australian British Chamber of Commerce today.

    Here are three moments when Ms Bishop gave us a surprisingly frank assessment of a world in great upheaval:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-14/julie-bishop-drops-truth-bombs-after-a-tumultuous-week/9870626

    And isn’t she a gorgeous 31?

    • Stephen Dziedzic is a journalist in the ABC’s Parliament House bureau in Canberra. He’s been working for the ABC since 2007.

  24. Well there’s a not surprise

    Australia’s unemployment rate has fallen to a six-month low in May – but the new jobs being created in the economy are overwhelmingly part-time in nature.

    Full-time jobs fell by 20,600 during the month, and part-time jobs rose by 32,600, leaving a net improvement of 12,000 positions, while the monthly hours worked in all jobs decreased, by 1.4%

    The “underemployment rate” (tracking those who are employed but who want more work) has also increased slightly, by 0.1 points to 8.5%, and the underutilisation rate (unemployed persons + underemployed persons) is still sitting at 13.9%..

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jun/14/unemployment-rate-falls-but-part-time-work-dominates-job-growth

  25. The ABC, helping Georgina Downer campaign..

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