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This will be the thread that will be in use for a extended period of time unless some one else wishes to post one.Now that Ned is well again I will be away for some time doing bits and pieces, going back and forth ,flying,boating but no driving or as little as possible.

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Things are still relatively quiet even with Barnyards rorting so the blog will just continue along with all your wonderful comments . I’m sure things will heat up as the year rolls along and we can expect the later half of the year to get busy as we get closer till the next federal Election .



The people here are what makes this place special so keep commenting,chatting and sharing your thoughts. I will still checking in and keeping a eye on things .

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  1. On Twitter, I’d befriended LaLegale in relation to another issue. We exchanged a few tweets, I’ve forgotten exactly on what, but I was able I think to refer her to Voltaire’s Candide, which she’d not previously read. I had no idea she was the individual sacked from the APS in the case linked below

    On her Twitter page she’s made clear that this is only a win against Comcare and an order for compensation, She is still to lodge an additional appeal against her wrongful dismissal. It ought to be a good chance because of this ruling, but is still a costly matter. It must have been very stressful, just as Bushfire Bill and Her Indoors went through in another context. It takes great courage to stand alone against the tide.

    She is seeking crowdfunding help, which I’m not in a position to do at present. But if any of you are, visit her LaLegale Twitter page for the details.

    • I saw the opening, which was superb, as are his writings and observations. Sadly (staying in Melbourne while Sim gets her eyes fixed) my hosts thought it was ‘political’ and quickly switched to MKR. I’ll catch up on Iview.

    • Cooking shows?

      I thought Iron Chef was very funny, unintentionally no doubt.

      The Chefs’ Line was / will be (?) very good. Not an angry word or nasty look.

      Then, of course, there is Posh Nosh

      Used to watch Nigella luxuriating in the kitchen.

      Oliver was OK first off.

      Ian Parmenter was good.

      I have a lot of time for Maeve (and her magnificent outfits) doing 25 minutes on the basics of various national cuisines.

      Used to watch Ready Steady Cook for how they did quick stuff with few ingredients (and who couldn’t love Janelle Bloom!).

      The adversarial the stuff with look-at-me “judges” interests me not a jot.

  2. duckie
    I couldn’t agree more. Those pretentious FIGJAM cooks/chefs/food-preparers give me the irrits. Total wangkers adding zilch to the total of human well-being.

    I love The Great Australian Bake-Off and the Great British Bake-off. The chefs are genuine and nice. No one tries to sabotage anyone and contestants will actually help and support each other. They are very socialist compared to the human-eat-human capitalist trickle down MKR et al.

  3. FIGJAM chefs on tv ain’t new. Remember the Galloping Gourmet ? Started in NZ moved up in the world to Sydney Australia and then went global. Come on down Graeme Kerr.

  4. Two tweets that belong together –

  5. The Rape of Russia

    by Lars Schall for the Saker blog

    Introduction by Pepe Escobar:

    William Engdahl is one of the world’s top geopolitical analysts. His books – from Century of War to Full Spectrum Dominance – are absolutely essential to understand how the self-described exceptional nation created and expanded its global hegemony tentacles.

    A measure of his influence is that as much as Engdahl may be dismissed or derided across the Beltway, the usual suspects do read him – and are incapable of finding conclusive arguments to prove him wrong.

    This extensive interview by financial journalist Lars Schall is largely centered on Chapter 3 – The Rape of Russia – of Engdahl’s new book Manifest Destiny: Democracy as Cognitive Dissonance.

    Here you will find all you need to know about the genesis of the 1990s Russian oligarchs; the dirty deals of the Yeltsin mafia; everything from the plunder of Soviet gold to the dodgy operations of the elder Bush’s brother; the incredible Yamashita gold story; the “privatization coupon” scam; the way the Harvard mafia run the Russian economy – all the way to Putin’s uphill battle throughout the 2000s to turn Russia into a functioning economy as NATO kept marching east.

    As Engdahl notes, if we don’t understand what happened in Russia in the 1990s it’s absolutely impossible to contextualize the neocons and US Think Tankland’s deep hatred and 24/7 demonization campaign of Putin’s Russia.

    So sit back, relax, enjoy the crash course and keep it as an essential reference you will find nowhere else.

    The interview here:


  6. Good morning Dawn Patrollers. Unsurprisingly there is plenty on the banking royal commission.

    Former finance professor and Macquarie Bank executive Dr Tony Castagna is behind bars after a Supreme Court jury found him guilty of tax evasion, money laundering and dealing with the proceeds of crime. The way the royal commission is going he might have some mates in with him before too long.
    Now it comes out! The state’s top transport officials were warned to delay the recent timetable changes for Sydney’s stretched rail network until early this year after independent experts found “simply too many underlying issues which have not been fixed”, a high-level report reveals.
    Elizabeth Knight tells us that the new CEO of the CBA will have his work cut out given what we have learned already from the royal commission.
    The Australian’s John Durie writes that the AMP shellacking has served as a giant wake-up call to corporate Australia and indeed the entire regulatory system because something has gone drastically wrong. Big business has been caught systematically ripping off ignorant consumers to maximise profits and, of course, along the way executive pay.
    And Ben Butler tells us about the shocker of a day the dissembling Marianne Perkovic of CBA had at the commission. Ant better and she would have been atrocious!
    One of the most potentially damaging bit s of evidence is the way in which the “independent evaluation” of AMP’s processes by big law firm Clayton Utz was significantly influenced by the board. This should have the big audit firms quaking in their boots. The law firm is not responding to questions.
    John Collett reminds Morrison of how ASIC missed chance to stop the rot in financial advice 12 years ago.
    Outrage is growing across party and ideological lines following extraordinary revelations that financial services giant AMP was routinely charging customers fees for no service, and misleading the regulator about it.
    Jennifer Hewett on the horror day the CBA had at the royal commission.
    Colin Kruger previews what should be an “interesting” AGM for AMP in three weeks’ time.
    This gay Christion has some words of advice for Greg Hunt.
    There’s a big storm brewing between Solomon Lew and Myers.

  7. Section 2 . . .

    Peter Martin tells us that we are spending too much on infrastructure.
    Rob Burgess tells us to blame Canberra as our cities grind to a halt.
    Speaking of infrastructure a stinking trainload of human waste from New York City is stranded in a tiny Alabama town, spreading a stench like a giant backed-up toilet – and the “poop train” is just the latest example of the South being used as a dumping ground for other states’ waste.
    Michelle Grattan reports that pressure within government ranks for a ban on the live sheep trade to the Middle East has increased, with a second Liberal MP calling for the exports to end.
    Why we can only trust ethical fashion lists so far.
    Despite the myriad of studies highlighting Australia’s growing inequality, the take-home message from the Turnbull Government is, if you’re poor, it’s your fault.
    Melbourne drivers could spend 20 per cent more time sitting in traffic unless low-cost solutions were delivered, an expert has warned.
    A former Immigration official sacked over tweets critical of Australia’s asylum seeker policy has won a fight for compensation, after an appeals tribunal found her dismissal was unlawful and described government efforts to restrict anonymous comments from its employees as Orwellian.
    A former Anglican priest told a young girl she might see her beloved deceased dog if she prayed before he raped her in a church, a court has heard. Words fail me!

  8. Section 3 . . . Cartoon Corner

    Lots to see in this effort from David Rowe. Like Rowena Orr in the popcorn booth with its clock set at five minutes to midnight.

    Matt Golding at the royal commission.

    Paul Zanetti takes us into the Greens’ garden.

    And Mark Knight takes us into their “party” room.

    Sean Leahy pretty well sums up yesterday’s evidence to the royal commission.

    Alan Moir with some vitriol for the banks.

    David Pope nicely ridicules Turnbull and Morrison over the “unnecessary” banking royal commission.
    More Fairfax cartoons in here.

  9. I saw some of Marianne Perkovic’s appearance at the banking RC yesterday. I didn’t get to watch much, but from what I saw she seemed incapable of running a raffle let alone being a high-level executive in a major company. Maybe her dithery, vapid performance was an act, but I doubt it. How on earth do people so incompetent get such high-level positions?

  10. Regarding the Big End of Town and attitudes to corporate governance and ethical practice , I was taken aback while teaching at a prominent GPS school when the Head Master directed the staff to not go out of our way to comply or help the Government Inspectors that where to be in the School for the week.
    The ‘how dare they?’ attitude to compliance was overwhelming and it is little wonder that the ‘fat-cats’ are being exposed as they are by the RC.
    I remember a conversation with the science inspector who was wandering around trying to find the Heat Teacher of Science ( who was doing his best to hide from him) and suggesting he come and look at what I was doing with my classes. He couldn’t understand how a school, proporting to be ( and charging for being ) a great educational institution , could be so resistant to maintaining standards of delivery.

    Now we know.

  11. For those wanting to watch the Banking Inquiry –

    Foxtel is showing the lot on the A-PAC channel.

    For those who do not subscribe to Foxtel it’s available on the A-PAC website. Just hit the live TV link.

    Yesterday there was a link to an article where someone was complaining about there being no televised coverage. Well, there is, you just need to know where to find it.

  12. SloMo is ‘deeply distressed’ by AMP’s evidence at the RC. He found that evidence ‘deeply disturbing’ and is talking about possible jail sentences.

    What a change of heart!

    Here’s SloMo in August 2016, going full bore about banks being a key pillar of the Australian economy, screaming about Labor’s dastardly and totally unnecessary demands for a royal commission and accusing Shorten of having ‘a populist whinge’.

  13. Compare and contrast with the witch-hunt over the so-called pink batts issue.

    Both were the result of shoddy work practices by shonky business owners. One resulted in the resignation of a minister and the denigration of a government by the howling press mob. The other has resulted in crickets from the same press mob and from a minister who is being deliberately kept out of the public eye to protect a failing government.

  14. Live exports industry forced to adopt Labor policy amid community backlash over sheep deaths

    After meeting in Brisbane, exporters confirmed late yesterday they would support an inspector-general with oversight for all live exported animals.

    The ABC yesterday revealed the industry was considering a major retreat on the animal welfare policy, having been opposed to Labor’s proposal since 2013.

    The industry now concedes it had to change its position amid public outrage and concern at thousands of sheep dying of heatstroke during shipments to the Middle East.

    “We want to end that. We want to change the culture,” Australian Livestock Exporters’ Council chairman Simon Crean said.


  15. Also on live animal exports – our government is funding overseas abattoirs so live exports can be killed and processed there. This makes a mockery of all that talk about ‘changing the culture’.

    $146 Million For Overseas Abattoirs While Australian Workers Bleed Out

    Only days after holding a series of press conferences in which he promised to investigate the latest, horrific live export scandal where hundreds of sheep lost their lives, Agriculture Minister David Littleproud has jetted off to Vietnam to announce that $146 million in public money will be used to help support the live export industry.

    It is now clear that whatever concerned noises the Turnbull Government might make about live exports, they have no intention of phasing out, winding back, or even truly acknowledging the ongoing horror of the live export industry.

    Australia’s powerful live export barons have the Turnbull Government well and truly in their pockets – and it’s the struggling, working class Australian meat worker who is paying the price.

    Just like his predecessor Barnaby Joyce before him, new minister David Littleproud is ready and willing to use public money to undermine Australian industries. Australian meat workers who were hoping that a new Agriculture Minister might bring with him a new approach appear to be sadly mistaken.

    “Australian meat workers support their local communities, and contribute to the growth of the nation by paying their fair share of tax – while massive agricultural mega-corporations pay nothing,” said AMIEU Newcastle & Northern NSW Secretary Grant Courtney.

    “It is an insult to these hard-working Australians to take their tax money, and use it in a way that undermines their entire livelihood.”


    Animals can be killed here, in abattoirs that meet religious and cultural standards, and the fresh meat flown to Indonesia, Kuwait, Qatar or any of the other major buyers within hours, without even the need to freeze the meat. Surely that’s a better alternative than the current miserable situation.

    Here’s where those animals go.

    The countries that buy our live animals also buy huge quantities of boxed meat, so that kills off the tired excuse about it being a religious necessity to kill animals in these countries.

    Lots of interesting figures on meat exports linked in here –

    Propaganda on supporting live exports, from the NFF.

    • The sight of these poor animals … It stays with you day and night. Farmers also need to fight more to protect their animals. One day you see the sheep happily grazing, 3wks after they’re agonising. It’s criminal. I despise this govt. Labor needs to kill off that cruel live exports once in govt. But it won’t. A couple of safety rules perhaps. I despair.

  16. Er – no. Someone needs a history lesson.

    Sailing ships produced no emissions, so the first to circumnavigate the globe in a non-emissions ship were probably Juan Sebastian Elcano and the other survivors of Magellan’s expedition. Magellan himself did not complete that voyage, he was killed in what is now the Philippines.

    Some say Enrique de Malacca, Magellan’s Malay slave, was the first, as he had completed part of the circumnavigation on an earlier voyage.

    it’s possible someone completed the voyage much earlier, maybe Vikings, maybe the Chinese. We just don’t know.


  17. Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    In his maiden contribution to The New Daily Michael Pascoe opines that the situation exposed so far by the royal commission is even worse than it looks. An excellent article!
    Adele Ferguson’s contribution is headlined, “Sickening bank behaviour shows need for broader probe.” Adele is a rather angry lady today and she takes aim at all sorts of players.
    Jenna Price goes one step further and says we need a royal commission into tax. Tax avoidance, tax minimisation, tax evasion and all the other sneaky, creepy ways corporations get around paying tax. She thinks she could get a former treasurer of the year to back me up.
    A trio pf Fairfax journos write that Nationals MPs are eyeing structural changes to the big banks, including the forced separation of banks’ financial services arms, in the wake of explosive evidence heard at the royal commission.
    Phil Coorey writes that the banking royal commission revelations play right into the hands of Labor’s narrative.
    Karen Maley gets right to the point and says the royal commission must protect super savings from conflicted advisers.
    Katharine Murphy says the government owes us an apology over its reluctance to call a banking royal commission.
    And Michelle Grattan says that the government’s misjudgement on banking royal commission comes back to bite it.
    Dave Donovan writes that the most shocking thing about the Banking Royal Commission is how shocked so many profess to be by its findings.
    Clancy Yeates explains how Westpac failed to promptly tell the corporate regulator about a financial adviser it suspected of “serious misconduct,” including breaches of the bank’s rules on acting in clients’ best interests.
    Stephen Bartholomeusz asks why some people park their ethics in the driveway as they go to work.
    Ruth Williams writes that AMP chairman Catherine Brenner is facing pressure to resign over her role in changing a supposedly independent report into the company’s troubled financial planning division, with investors expected to be highly critical of AMP’s performance and culture in the lead up to next month’s annual meeting. It’s possible the entire board might step down.
    Major banks could face maximum fines of $210m or be stripped of 10 per cent of their annual turnover for serious misconduct.

  18. Section 2 . . .

    Richo sheets a lot of the blame onto the moribund ASIC.
    The IPA’s John Roskam tells us why the Liberal are in so much trouble.
    Surprise, surprise! A survey by the National Australia Bank found 8 per cent of businesses would give workers a significant wage rise if they received a company tax cut, while one-in-five say they don’t need a tax cut to secure their company’s future.
    David Crowe bemoans the embarrassing triviality of Australian politics.
    Kate McClymont reports on another day at the ICAC hearing into the Canterbury Council.
    Now why do I get so upset about religion sometimes?
    Sussan Ley launches another hand grenade as she says she will introduce a bill to ban live sheep exports. This will do wonders for internal Coalition friction.
    Greg Jericho warns us that while the IMF outlook contains cause for celebration a horrendous hangover is looming.
    Youth spokesperson Katie Acheson says that younger Australians are under attack.
    Trump’s offensive against so-called sanctuary cities was dealt a blow on Thursday when a US appeals court panel made up of Republican-appointed judges upheld an injunction blocking the Justice Department from certain threats it has made against the havens nationwide.
    It’s that time of year again, Anzac Day, when mainstream media, politicians and shock jocks find a whole new expression of honesty to be outraged at.
    Some advice from the SMH editorial – if you live in the bush, don’t get sick!
    Can the NEG get up today?
    Frydenberg will make one last pitch to the states.
    Only one in five South Australian public schools has a high-speed fibre to the campus internet connection, compared to almost every school interstate. An SA Education Department internal podcast also reveals it can take students more than 15 minutes to log on to their school’s network.
    The National Disability Insurance Scheme provider that was the subject of complaints from parents, staff and former staff in a Fairfax Media investigation has launched legal action against a former employee who allegedly blew the whistle on company practices, seeking unspecified damages. Shocking corporate behaviour continues to appal us.

  19. Section 3 . . . Cartoon Corner

    What a beauty from Mark David.

    Paul Zanetti with some headhunting for the CBA.

    Glen Le Lievre takes us to the Great Barrier Reef.

    Sean Leahy goes to work on the CBA.

    As does Jon Kudelka.

    And David Rowe!

    Kudelka redefines the term “RIP”.
    David Pope on the parlous state of regulation Australia.
    More in here.

  20. Exactly.

    Government politicians telling us how disturbed and distressed they are by the evidence being given at the RC are just trying to cover up their past opposition and trying to take all the credit for something they definitely did not want and had to be dragged kicking an screaming into finally approving. Much as it pains me to say this, if it hadn’t been for National MPs and senators threatening to cross the floor to vote for a royal commission it would never have happened.

    Soon we will have a slew of articles from Turnbull’s ever-adoring fan club telling us how wise and clever he was to push for a banking RC and how brilliant the government was in ordering one.

    Just as well we can remember what really happened.

  21. While everyone is focused on the RC –

    Michaelia Cash came out of hiding yesterday to do a presser. She did not mention her two year delay in releasing the report on the death of Josh Park-Fing.

  22. full poll details pdf here, no paywall

  23. Whenever you see Scrott Morriscum banging on about the Bankster RC keep this in mind . Ah 2016 a life time ago 🙂

    Scott Morrison slams banking royal commission proposal as nothing more than a ‘populist whinge’

    “It is nothing more than a populist whinge from Bill Shorten.”…….Mr Morrison urged Mr Shorten to stop playing “reckless political games”,

    Oh dearScrott. The Blame Labor reflex kicked in before your brain did 🙂

  24. Karl Stefanovic kicks off the annual Anzac Day whinging. He’s just a wanna-be ‘celebrity’ keen to get a headline, but I’ll bite.

    He’s not getting much support in that thread. I particularly enjoyed this comment –

    More –

    Anzac Day has meaning for my family, but on the day we will not be indulging in fake mourning, or in jingoism. We will not be taking Karl’s advice to mutter trite rubbish about ‘they died for us’ because no-one died to save us. Nor will we be standing around a cenotaph looking at names to which we have no connection. Some of us might attend a Dawn Service or a march, some might not. Some of us will probably see a movie. Whatever we choose to do is our business, no-one else’s. No-one needs lectures on ‘proper’ ways to observe Anzac Day from a fool on a breakfast TV show parroting lines fed to him by a scriptwriter because his producer wants a headline.

    • Clutz was Howard’s old law firm.I suspect they hid him in the file room and kept him busy making cups of tea. Also his daughter’s firm. And Julie Bishop’s. Keeping things in the Liberal family.

  25. LOL codedic touch with the line about Truffles’ attire. Praise be to “Outline” , no more fluffling around to jump Mordor Media’s pay wall.

    Move over, Justin Trudeau: Jacinda Ardern is No 1

    …..But when it came to official reception with the Queen it was Ms Ardern who outshone even Mr Trudeau…………………..

    The kakahu, especially a kiwi kakahu, is a sign of a person of high rank in Maori culture.

    Malcolm Turnbull wore a dinner suit.

    Ms Ardern also became the toast of Buckingham Palace – literally…..


  26. Good morning Dawn Patrollers. Between the NEG and the banking royal commission there is much to peruse today.

    Peter Hartcher says that the NEG is ripe for Tony Abbott, Barnaby Joyce and their acolytes to do their very best to smash it to pieces. A good spray.
    Peter Hannam writes that Friday’s pause in the climate wars may turn out to be a phony peace before skirmishes break out anew.
    The head of the expert board advising the federal Coalition on its signature energy plan says it would not be a “big drama” for the electricity industry if a future Labor government enforced far stronger cuts to greenhouse gas emissions.
    The Victorian energy minister Lily D’Ambrosio has written to the Energy Security Board asking for new detailed analysis to be provided on the national energy guarantee, as the stand off between the Turnbull government and the states over energy policy shifts into its decisive phase.
    Tony Wright rips into the “clearly panicked” Morrison for taking the Australian public as fools with his ridiculous comments on the banking royal commission.
    The wrongdoing uncovered by the royal commission forces bank heads to admit their opposition to the inquiry was a mistake.
    Rachel Clun tells us how Morrison changed his tune on the banking royal commission.
    Elizabeth Knight calls for more heads to roll at AMP. It’s mea culpa just doesn’t cut it, she says.
    Adele Ferguson’s piece is headlined “People are still crying out for justice, perhaps now someone will listen”.
    The SMH editorial says that the royal commission has achieved spectacular results and justified its creation. It laments that venerable institutions – blue chips, every one of them – have behaved with the morals of alley cats, preying on the weak and, unbelievable as it sounds, pilfering even from the dead.
    With daily Royal Commission revelations, Dr Lee Duffield says the cat is out of the bag about how Big Money has been running their institutions. He says this week’s massive attention on the Commonwealth Bank and AMP might also stir up demands for real reform of a financial system that started compromising itself after they brought in privatisation and deregulation.
    The Australia Institute’s Ben Oquist reports on how the appetite for the major corporate tax cuts has recently changed.
    And Fergus Hunter writes that crossbench senators with the power to kill off Coalition’s company tax cuts have warned a string of damning revelations out of the banking royal commission undermines Turnbull’s flagship policy.
    Michael West doesn’t think the banks will really change their culture.
    The AFR opens up on the remarkable hypocrisy on display at the AMP.
    Jack Waterford says the banks have squandered their political credit and wonders whether the Turnbull government is in a death spiral and is simply unable to adapt to opportunities may well be settled over the week ahead. This is an excellent essay.

  27. Section 2 . . .

    Rod Myer reports on how ANZ ignored the fact that a financial advice firm had failed scrutiny from ASIC and offered some of its advisors up to $150,000 each in incentives to come and work for it.
    This is what could be in front of the financial industry.
    If there is such a thing as a capital crime in economics, it is Donald Trump’s exorbitant fiscal stimulus at the top of the cycle. The effects are entirely pernicious.
    Karen Middleton says that Morrison’s plan to frame the coming budget as responsible investment was derailed this week by conflicting government messages.
    Paul Bongiorno opines that Turnbull’s home fires will keep during during his absence overseas.
    Nassim Khadem on shady accountants and a rapacious ATO.
    Schools, universities and the ATAR system are driving students away from vital science, maths and technology subjects, according to chief scientist Alan Finkel, who has strongly defended the importance of STEM in a report to the country’s education ministers.
    If the government really values the safety of older people, it would rewrite the Aged Care Act from scratch writes Sarah Russell.
    Aldi ramps up the pressure on Colesworths.
    In the “Only in America Department” the Democratic Party sues Russia and Trump, blaming election loss on collusion.
    Peter van Onselen doesn’t think the upcoming budget will be filled with goodies.
    Now Centrelink is threatening Australians with welfare debts to pay up or pay interest.
    Dennis Shanahan says Turnbull is weighed down by external factors that will make it almost impossible for him to reassert his authority and make space for a recovery of spirit before the winter parliamentary break.
    The only argument offered for Australia’s harsh refugee policies is that it stops others getting on boats — but is that morally acceptable?
    So we’re going to have Queen Camilla!
    Julia Baird on how Muslim women are copping hatred from both sides.
    I couldn’t let a week go by without Mehajer story. Now he’s trying to get his bankruptcy order overturned.

  28. Section 3 . . . Cartoon Corner

    Two absolute shockers from David Rowe!

    A great contribution from Mark Davis on recent royal commissions.

    Paul Zanetti with Turnbull’s sleeping problem.

    Matt Golding and banking stocks.

    Mark Knight on the Victorian firefighting saga.

    And here’s his take on the banking royal commission.

    Sean Leahy returns to the oval office.

    David Pope with a beauty as Turnbull and Morrison survey the inevitable.
    Lots more in here.

  29. NEG is dead in the water

    To cut a long story short, we could be back at Groundhog Day, where Labor attempts post-election to implement a climate and energy policy that the Greens insist needs to be made more ambitious, which then prompts opposition leader Peter Dutton to demand repeal.

    For anyone who has lived through the colossal public policy failure of the past decade, the thought of enduring that zero sum cycle again will be enough to trigger a cold sweat.

    However this story ultimately ends, this much is clear: it’s going to be a mind-focusing few months.


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