Remember him shouting an QT. almost ordering the High court judges that ” SO THEY WILL HOLD”
Well the judges didn’t like being told what to do so they came back with a big
Todays results were are disaster for these useless incompetents and especially for the so called PM.
Deputy PM and leader of the Nats is gone along with 4 others. All members of the Coalition or greens. Not 1 labor person has been found to be in breach of the rules despite I am guessing some pretty thorough digging by the opposite side
The Govt still has a Majority because the speaker can vote in case its a tie and I don’t think he would go against his mates.
All this on top of cashgate and the failed AWU raids.
IT sure is a exciting time to be alive Mal.
wanker
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/11/10/typh-n10.html
Half time 0-0 a decent half of soccer from the Socceroos.
Last night dodgy Dick indicated that he would ask/demand the Governor General to dissolve the parliament.
As much as I hate this government this is the wrong approach to take. Firstly, the convention is that the governor-general acts on the advice of the prime minister. What Kerr did in 1975 was wrong and we should not repeat this.
Also the westminster principle of responsible government stipulates that a government can govern for as long as it maintains the confidence of the house, if the Greens wants to force an early election then they should move a motion of no confidence.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-11/albanese-slams-greens-over-threat-to-dissolve-parliament/9139946
I’m also starting to think that Turnbull isn’t the only party leader under leadership pressure and I suspect that if the Greens don’t do well at the next election then Bandt will launch a challenge (I don’t think that Hanson-Young would be a contender as she has a 50-50 chance of losing her seat).
Not the ‘stop the boats’ the government had in mind.
Another defence stuff-up. First we had patrol boats in such poor shape they could only go to sea in a dead calm, then we had whopping huge HLDs that could not get out of Sydney Harbour, now we have brand new Border farce patrol boats that can’t launch their response vessels.
‘Stop the boats’: $330m Australian Border Force vessels unable to launch response craft
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-11/failure-to-launch-vessels-designed-to-stop-the-boats/9140090
Austral not only constructed those ships, it also designed them. Border Farce has been using Cape Class patrol boats since the first one was rolled out in 2013, yet this is the first we have heard of this problem. Have we been treated like mushrooms yet again?
https://www.austal.com/ships/cape-class-patrol-boats
Obviously it will all be Labor’s fault.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-senior-figures-tortured-and-beaten-saudi-purge-1489501498
https://panampost.com/orlando-avendano/2017/11/09/venezuelan-supreme-court-bans-women-in-bikinis/
64 minutes played 0-0
6 min to go 0-0
4 min stoppage time
final whistle 0-0 2nd leg in Sydney Wed night
One Nation Accidentally Posted A Massive Sledge Of Pauline Hanson On Their Website
http://junkee.com/one-nation-pauline-sledge/134087
Hillsong is about as ‘Christian’ as the Church of Scientology. Both should pay tax – and lots of it.
About Turnbuul’s Snowy Hydro fantasy –
1. – Pumped hydro was considered 20 years ago but the plan was abandoned because it was too expensive.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/turnbulls-snowy-scheme-costs-more-power-than-it-makes/news-story/66de81ef01268c7aeb46158bbb9f8714
2. Snowy Hydro is part owned by NSW and Victoria. The states are keen to sell, but only at the right price, and it’s more than Morrison wants to pay.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/federal-government-seeks-8b-controlling-share-of-snowy-hydro/news-story/1d83a063cc20e00f2242cc76390d0d97
3. So far all we have is an almost completed feasibility study which will be rigged to make it sound a whole lot cheaper than it will actually be. It’s doubtful construction really will start next year, as the government keeps saying it will. I’s also doubtful this project will ever happen.
4 – Last but by no means least. Privatising Snowy Hydro is Number 75 on the IPA wish list. No wonder Turnbull wants the commonwealth to own the lot, it makes privatisation so much easier.
“3. So far all we have is an almost completed feasibility study which will be rigged to make it sound a whole lot cheaper than it will actually be. It’s doubtful construction really will start next year, as the government keeps saying it will. I’s also doubtful this project will ever happen. ”
And there is no way they will release the full costings and benefits.
I didn’t mean for that whole list to be posted, just the link, but now it’s there you can all have fun ticking off all the items the Abbott and Turnbull governments have achieved so far.
BB
Thanks for the info about HI’s first week back at work. Sounds like she was very productive and her values and good attributes have been recognised. Fingers crossed that it continues along those lines for however long she decides to remain employed.
I’ve said it before, but no LNP official with any brains at all, and there must still be a few left, would let a project like Malcolms Snowy scheme go ahead. The idea that an LNP govt would insert anywhere from 500 up to 1000 or more CFMEU workers with their families into a marginal seat, bringing with them their campaigning ability and willingness is unbelievable. Not only would it turn Eden Monaro into a safer ALP seat, their infection would spread westwards into the Wagga region and north into the region of Young, Cootamundra Junee etc. The seats adjoining Eden Monaro are safe enough for the Libs that they currently have to spend much in the way of time or money in them. That would no longer be the case.
Malcolm is politically naive enough to not notice the looming problem, but Bill Heffernan is still alive and say what you like about old Bill, he knows the political game better than most.
Disclaimer. Both the member for Eden Monaro and Bill Heffernan are related to me.
In the unlikely event this project ever becomes reality the construction work will be given to an overseas company, most likely Chinese, and those 5000 jobs will go to overseas workers, imported on dodgy work visas, workers who can be paid peanuts and treated as slaves.
John Alexander has resigned –
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/nov/11/citizenship-crisis-john-alexander-resigns-and-triggers-byelection
Very interesting. While Bennelong is clearly a more realistic target for Labor than New England, the results over the past few elections, particularly the swing to the Libs last year, may indicate that Labor only won it in 2007 because Howard had no personal vote, which may make winning the seat a tall order.
There’s never been a better time to be out of Australia, eh Fizza?
I find that fascinating.
Oh, look who it is
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newschannel/
Who was it, Ducky? I’ve only just arrived home after shopping.
The PM. Waffling.
“Speaking on the sidelines of the APEC summit in Vietnam, Mr Turnbull said Mr Alexander had “done the right thing” and tried to turn the spotlight on the Labor MPs who also have questions about their citizenship status.
“Bill Shorten and Labor should now seriously consider whether their members who admitted they were UK citizens at the time they nominated should do the right thing, resign from parliament now and the by-elections could be held on the same day as the by-election for Bennelong,” he said.”
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-11/john-alexander-to-resign-amid-dual-citizenship-concerns/9138814
@MakeMayoMatter is Rebekha Sharkie, she has agreed to support the government.
New rules 46:40 –
Playing in the background you can hear
Ellyse Perry 100 not out.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2017/nov/11/australia-v-england-womens-ashes-test-match-day-three-live
One of the lighter tracks on Vuur’s “In This Moment We Are Free – Cities” album:
http://www.vuur.band/
“Wake Up” – from Collide’s “Color of Nothing” album:
Tell you what, while this dual citizenship saga is pretty unfortunate when you get down to the personal stuff of it (Keay holding off renouncing dual citizenship because of a link to her father, etc), at least there’s an element of justice to it all.
Remember in 2011-2013 when every movement of Craig Thomson was breathlessly reported by the media and used as club to bludgeon anything good that Julia Gillard’s government did? I remember that, and that politics is completely drowned out by this game of Constitutional Guess Who? It feels somewhat justified.
Turnbull wants to talk about Jobson Growth, but nobody else does. And then next week when the results of the ME survey are announced, there’s going to be the spectacle of internal party bitching. It’s terminal government for certain.
He may have bigger worries. If the Reps crossbench wants a royal commission into the banks they will get it.
Kirsdarke
Yes, next week is the big one, hopefully will be big enough to tear the lnp apart for good.
Looking around the discussion regarding MPs and citizenship, it seems to me a lot of people out there are still missing the point. It’s not really about how this government can or can not hang on to power, or about whether the constitutional rules are arcane, or even about the timing of renunciations. It’s about something a lot larger than that, and something that strikes at the heart of everyone’s lived political experience.
It’s about short-cuts, privilege, and the idea within right-wing circles that rules are things you apply to other people. I think we’ve seen enough to know that a lot of MPs were aware all along that they had citizenship issues – they just didn’t care about them because they thought it would never come up. The key to this is that that is their attitude to everything. You do as little as you need to to in order to become an MP – that includes not only just ticking boxes on a form whether or not you’ve done your due diligence on them – but also trotting out whatever empty promises get you across the line, only considering what’s strategically effective as a message and not what’s practically effective as a policy, and just generally riding in on a tide of slurs, lies and slogans. As a party, the Liberals also have that attitude to expense claims. Take, take, take, and justify later on when and if necessary. It’s what got Bronwyn Bishop kicked out of her job.
Coalition MPs simply aren’t across the details on anything. They think things will work out in the end, but at that level they simply don’t. They spent a lot of time in opposition focusing on minor details, which gave the impression that they were into fine print, But that was just concentrating on gotchas, and even most of those were based on shonky information or misconstruing data – think of any of Hockey’s presentations as Shadow Treasurer; they were all based on distorted information made to look like real research.
What we’re seeing at the moment is a bizarre manifestation of that general laxity of discipline and accountability. It’s the same attitude that brought us the Census, the NBN, all of our policy-on-the-run asylum seeker bastardry, Robodebt, and pretty much everything they’ve touched since gaining power in 2013. Even their Royal Commissions were half-hearted and shoddily researched. Their Productivity Commission reports were constructed around… you couldn’t even call it ideology, it was just assumptions, as was more or less admitted in the aftermath. Robodebt is almost the textbook case for their double-standard on accountability. Welfare recipients are held to the strictest standards based on data that’s wildly inaccurate, and designed to be that way. It was a rush-job treated as a kind of economic gospel, and of course it ran into problems immediately. The recent raid on the AWU is another good example of the Liberals holding somebody else to strict standards – an internal procedural issue from a decade ago? – while leaving themselves wide open to attack because their own organisation of the raid was so cack-handed. In fact, this pattern goes all the way back to Utegate.
And that’s what the citizenship mess is telling us. These guys don’t check anything beforehand. They guess at things, expect it all to go swimmingly because they’re Important People, and only energise themselves when it’s time to organise a cover-up to save their arses.
Excellent post.
I agree with everything you say.
There’s one more thing – we are supposed to trust these sloppy politicians to govern this country effectively. They can’t even be bothered checking their own family’s background, so how are we supposed to trust them with getting legislation right? Do they ever bother reading everything in all those bills and explanatory memoranda they have to vote on, or do they just follow the party line and save themselves a lot of effort?
I think we all know the answer to that, Leone.
Post of the week!
I think you have outdone your usual brilliance Aguirre, well said.
Aguirre
” Welfare recipients are held to the strictest standards ” .That ,I hope, will be what screws them. Anyone who has dealings with teh “Government” will know that being found to have ticked boxes for tax $’s incorrectly ain’t no laughing matter. Pollies escaping the punishment the plebs get for the same infraction will not be a good look.
I watched all of Tony Burke’s presser, not just the sound bite the ABC posted on Twitter.
Labor is relying heavily on the ‘take reasonable steps’ thing to defend Justine Keay and Susan Lamb. I really wish Shorten would order both of them to go to the High Court. Why? A High Court ruling on this issue would be definitive, at present it’s a bit vague, and second, it would shut Turnbull up. If the court ruled in Labor’s favour it would be another blow to Turnbull’s credibility as a lawyer. He’s making a big deal of the whole thing, using it to distract media attention away from his government’s citizenship mess. From what Burke said this afternoon Labor is just going to tough it out, and intends to take advantage of the government’s now minority status to ‘pursue Labor’s agenda while they can.
Burke’s presser was live on Facebook – I know not everyone can access Facbook videos, but here it is anyway. (Facebook is really good for this sort of thing. I use it as a news feed, and for family stuff, I don’t care about having more ‘friends’ than anyone I know.)
I suppose that’s another problem for Turnbull:
Sinodinos has taken medical leave to have treatment for cancer – what sort of cancer he won’t say. He says he will be back. He expects a full recovery – or he did, a month ago.
He should resign and devote himself to recovering properly, rather than rush back to work before he is fit – if he ever is.
Wrens are gorgeous:
I’ve always thought the real threat from a terrorist attack would be something simple like turning off the power, rather than a bombing somewhere.
Forget inconvenience to business. you only have to sit through a few hours of a blackout (I did that, last Monday night) to realise how dependent we all are on our power grid.
it’s taken the government a long time to work this out.
https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/refugees/explosive-footage-petition/explosive-footage-from-inside-manus?t=JVme76CzO4&utm_campaign=We_re_just_back_from_Manus&utm_content=24007&utm_medium=email&utm_source=blast
Death to the TPP !!! Yay Trudeau.
I note that the vid I posted earlier has disappeared so try this one –
NEW THREAD
Comments here will close at once because I must basket.