British Election Friday



The polls have closed Counting has begun and the results are starting to come in.


Seats won · 568/650 seats declared
Party and leader
Theresa May
Jeremy Corbyn
Scottish National Party
Nicola Sturgeon
Liberal Democrat
Tim Farron
Democratic Unionist Party
Arlene Foster

Gippsland Laborite is doing a great job keeping us informed along with others. Many Thanks

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Sit back relax and watch the drama unfold.

730 thoughts on “British Election Friday

  1. Maybe, just maybe, Labor will have the balls

    “Caucus has met but just consider this. Both Dutton and Turnbull claimed this week the changes were all about national security. So which national security agency recommended these changes? Australian Federal Police? No. ASIO? No. Defence? No. These changes are a response to a report from Liberal Senator Concetta Fierravanti-Wells. So, is it national security? No. “

  2. Well, I had a pretty big week this week, and I’ve spoken to enough people to make my mind up.

    Instead of doing Biomedicine next semester in university, I’ll do Information Technology instead.

    I’d like to thank Billie very much for helping me to change my mind.

  3. Thanks, Kaffee.

    Yes, I was really tempted with Biomedicine, but, then I heard things from firsthand experience that if someone wants to earn more than $40K and have a chance at an upward career in Biomedicine then they’d need a Masters or PhD minimum. Mainly from just how stagnant the field is.

    I’ve come to the conclusion that a bachelor of IT would be much more worth it in the long run. And furthermore I’d learn useful skills in programming.

    • Also thanks, TLBD; I look forward to it. I’m already excited about the possibilities in 3 years time.

    • The advantages of getting a contract in a library is that I stumble over interesting articles regarding all sorts of things.

      McCarthy, G., Song, X. and Jayasuriya, K. (2017) The proletarianisation of academic labour in Australia. Higher Education Research & Development, 36 (5). pp. 1017-1030.

      Considering how many folk I know are of an academic bent (or are studying or considering tutoring &c) I found this article to be an interesting take on how life for lecturers and academic researchers in general has changed over time. It is handy if you have a current academic login, though the abstract should give some food for thought

    • Wonderful idea to give wheelchair bound people independence.
      Not legal on Australian roads because the drivers seat is not fixed hence you see disabled drivers carry their wheelcahir on the roof when they are driving

  4. Kirsdarke congratulations on your decision. have you spoken to students studying at your chosen institution?
    Do you know which employers like those graduates?
    A common path is to learn to program at TAFE then move to uni for the final 18 months. See how hard you find it is to learn to program at your uni and the quality of your TAFE

  5. Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    Things must be getting on top of Trump. He’s gone berserk on Twitter again!
    Ten years on from the GFC and the world still suffers from a debt overhang. There are some quite concerning outlooks in this article.
    Jess Irvine opines that strong jobs growth has taken further interest rate cuts off the RBA’s table.
    Michael Pascoe writes that the Law of Unintended Consequences does not sleep. The Australian Prudential Regulation Authority’s crackdown on real estate lending by the banks it regulates is driving business to the financiers it does not regulate.
    Richard Denniss on how our politicians have made a meal of energy policy.
    Peter Hartcher says that we have produced a political class that prefers to play petty games of tribalism and indulge the fantasy constructs of ideology ahead of making the electricity work. And, unless something profound changes in the weeks ahead, that’s exactly where the Coalition government and the Labor opposition are taking us.
    Phil Coorey says that every galah in the pet shop is an energy expert. He gives Bernardi and his right wing cohort a good little kick. Google.
    Karen Middleton and the politics of the Finkel review.
    The Grenfell Tower death doll climbs to 30 (with 76 now said to be missing) and May has “Shame on you” shouted at her as she finally met some residents. She’s history!

  6. Section 2 . . .

    Protests are kicking off in London over the fire. Here’s a live update.
    Have aesthetics trumped safety? Google.
    The Australian’s Rick Morton writes that the deadly Grenfell Tower fire is expected to finally prompt action on Australian residential towers covered in flammable cladding, with owners liable for multi-million-dollar remediation bills and facing a drop in their property values, an expert says. Google.
    /national-affairs/state-politics/london-fire-aluminium-cladding-hit-to-local-property-prices/news-story/9d364f30ca31ebc67f0627be9a1ecae0 will acquire Whole Foods Market in a $US13.7 billion ($18 billion) bombshell of a deal that catapults the e-commerce giant into the supermarket business with hundreds of stores across the US. Who knows what this will do to the retail landscape.
    Turnbull once declared he joined the Liberal party instead of Labor only because his business background would limit his success in the ALP, a former NSW minister Carl Scully claims.
    Jessica Valenti in the US writes “In a time when shootings are commonplace, this week didn’t necessarily feel remarkable. It felt normal and that makes me fear for my daughter.”
    The ABC’s Red Symonds is in hot water with the Race Discrimination Commissioner.
    Three Turnbull government ministers have failed to apologise to the Victorian court of appeal for comments describing judges as “hard-left activists”, “divorced from reality,” and conducting an “ideological experiment”.

  7. Section 3 . . .

    Josh Bernstein says that our politicians show an alarming ignorance of the separation of powers.
    The US has sold Qatar $12 billion worth of fighter jets days after Trump accused it of being a “high-level” sponsor of terror.,10407
    The government might get Gonski 2.01 through the Senate with the help of a the somewhat fractured Greens and a significant trove of changes. It old almost take education off the table as an issue for the next election.
    According to Clancy Yeates Treasury assumed banks would pass on some of the $6.2 billion bank tax to their customers when it was costing the policy, despite the government urging lenders to “absorb” the levy.
    A proposal to have Peta Credlin address a Liberal function in Victoria on the subject of party values was kiboshed on the basis that her contribution would be controversial and unhelpful. How precious!
    Sally McManus has penned an article on the cruelty of penalty rate cuts.
    The Alex Maley CPA protection racket. Google.
    This SMH editorial says that there is still hope for a satisfactory outcome from the Finkel report and that if Labor and Turnbull could accommodate an agreed proposal it could see off Abbott.
    The Australian reports that Pauline Hanson withdrew from a political party established in her name after transferring more than $200,000 from its main bank ¬account and sacking the ¬office bearers who complained that she had no right to the money, newly ¬uncovered records show. Google.

  8. Section 4 . . .

    Jack Waterford has a contribution on how member-elected political leaders like Jeremy Corbyn can see “beyond the caucus wall”. Quite interesting.
    For those who think Donald Trump will “get away with it”, James McArdle offers a salutary tale from Australian history – Joh Bjelke-Petersen.,10406
    Jay Weatherill, you’ve gotta be joking! How on earth could this happen? Google.
    Norm Abjorensen gives us something to think about as he refers to a book on tyranny to look at how thinks could pan out in the US’s Age of Trump.
    “Why is it that the louder a Christian politician talks about their faith the more conservative they seem to be?” asks Toni Hassan. It’s well worth a read.
    Crispin Hull writes that minimum wage earners are knocking at the door of the 34.5% marginal taxation rate and asks how it happened.
    Staff at Network Ten have been told by Korda Mentha the “not order anything”.
    Jacqui Maley is less than happy that the government will not release the content of any public consultation submissions in the determination of what will be the “Australian values” to which new Australian will have to align.
    And Paul Bongiorno gets stuck into the citizenship opportunism being displayed.

  9. Section 5 . . .,

    For Tony Abbott: a guide to generosity for the morally bankrupt.,10405
    Andrew Denton on the religious lobby against assisted dying.
    Stephen Koukoulas rubs Abbott’s nose into his stance on debt by revisiting an article he wrote in 2013.
    Tony Wright calls BS on the “off the record” nature of the midyear ball.
    Peter FitzSimons gives Turnbull top marks for his Trump parody.
    A brawl is building inside the Turnbull government over the creation of a British-style Home Office that would bring together major intelligence, police and security agencies. We’ll have to wait and see until Turnbull announces his much-vaunted ministry changes.
    The US will tell dozens of refugees held in PNG’s Manus Island detention centre whether they will be offered resettlement in America within six weeks.
    Tony Wright farewells his colleague Michael Gordon.
    Here is what might be Michael Gordon’s last contribution. He looks closely at Gillian Triggs’ time as Human Rights Commissioner.
    Mike Seccombe tells us that a hardline Christian is hoping to replace Triggs. FFS!

  10. Section 6 . . . Cartoon Corner

    Ron Tandberg and the potential for another super-ministry.

    John Shakespeare looks at bracket creep.

    Shakespeare despairs over our politicians’ behaviour.

    Alan Moir beautifully captures the trouble Trump is in.

    More from Moir as he declares that Abbott is back.

    David Rowe and the vaudeville show that our government currently is.

    Ron Tandberg and Abbott’s parliamentary silence.

    Mark Knight take Turnbull into the Washington Comedy Club.
    David Pope nicely conflates climate policy with the Grenfell Tower fire.
    Jon Kudelka reckons Turnbull’s in the clear after his Trump parody.

  11. Hartcher’s Daily Drivel –

    Now he’s telling us both parties are to blame for the energy mess . It’s a theme I’ve been seeing a lot since the Finkel Report came out, so Hartcher isn’t even able to be original.

    i’m not having a bar of this ‘both are to blame’ and ‘Labor is stopping things happening’ crap.

    We had a carbon price, it was working. Emissions were down. price rises were compensated, the carbon price would be an ETS by now and we would be up the top of the list of countries working to address climate change.

    Abbott stopped all that,purely for political gain. He ganged up with his shock jock mates, got the Grey Nomads onside and carried on about ‘axe the tax’ until our ears bled. The MSM joined in with great enthusiasm.

    We all know the rest. Abbott (thanks to MSM support) became PM, he ‘axed the tax’ and emissions began to rise again. Now he is refusing to allow Fizza to do anything to fix his own mess. He had told us he can’t allow it because he wants to keep on calling Shorten ‘Electricity Bill’.

    One idiot and his braindead supporters are holding the future of this country to ransom and all we get from Hartcher and his mates is ‘it’s all Labor’s fault.’

    No. It isn’t. it’s Abbott’s fault, plain and simple, loud and clear.

    • Abbott should not be pre-selected again. If anyone needed any proof of how little he cares about anything but himself and his own agenda they got it the other day, when Abbott turned up for a division in his exercise gear. He cares so little about his duties to his electorate and the parliament that he’s nicked off to the gym, or for a bike ride, instead of being in his office working.

    • From the little that I heard/read, the whole msm are doing it. 2009 onwards, no matter what, it’s all Labor’s fault. Not a word about lnp. Three of them are up for contempt, but it only ‘three federal mp’s’ not ‘three liberal mp’s’.

    • It definitely is Abbott’s fault but the media are equally to blame…..they got on Abbott’s wagon and relished in the way he denigrated Julia Gillard and Labor.

  12. If the Speaker were capable of following the rules impartially, he would have put bbtt in the norty corner outside for at least one hour.

  13. Kirsdarke you don’t have to do another undergraduate degree to get enough qualifications to work in IT.
    You could do a Graduate Diploma in 1 year or a Masters in 2 years
    I will try to talk to you on Sunday

  14. Damn right

    head of releasing his landmark report into the security and reliability of the National Electricity Market, Finkel appeared before Senate estimates.

    Traditionally, the chief scientist has been relied upon for independent scientific advice, both to government and the general public. It’s a position that has remained independent of politics – a trusted source of information, not swayed by the gritty political realities of the day.

    Finkel’s testimony before the Senate suggested his advice was not going to tell the government what the absolute best thing for them to do was but, rather, what they could do, given their political inclinations. Reading between the lines, it seemed he was saying it would be tailored so that it was palatable to the government of the day.

    “We will be making recommendations around policies that all of the states and territories and the government would ideally agree to around changes to the operation of the system,” Finkel said.

  15. As one twitter person said to Josh re the video “Watched the first 7 mins and I don’t think people understand how serious this is, and will be. Thanks for sharing”

  16. @Billie

    Thank you for saying that. I’m leaning towards Bachelor level studies because I think I want to commit to learning about IT at the same level that I’ve learned about Metallurgy. That and I’m not really sure if studying for a lesser qualified course would be possible with HECS/HELP. From what I know, if I do Bachelor level, then it’s paid for through HECS. But if I go for a Diploma, they might ask for fees paid in full, which I can’t afford.

    Okay. I should be available to talk about it more tomorrow.

  17. The more stuff that Mordor has to contend with the better

    The president of the Australian National Imams Council is suing News Corp for defamation for articles describing him as a hate preacher who “preaches hatred of homosexuals, women and other minorities”.

    In a writ filed with the federal court on Wednesday, Sheikh Shady Alsuleiman said he had been “brought into hatred, ridicule, and contempt” by the articles, which “gravely injured his character and reputation” and caused him hurt and embarrassment.

    The writ was lodged against Nationwide News, publisher of the Daily Telegraph and the Courier Mail.

  18. On the USS Fitzgerald accident the Navy Times is reporting – “The ship’s captain was evacuated by a Japanese helicopter and two crew members were taken off by the US Navy. The executive officer assumed command as the destroyer returned back to port with the assistance of the Japan Coast Guard.”

    I wonder why they would take the ships captain the ship …

  19. Also lately I haven’t been bragging much about the pages I’ve been adding for Wikipedia. Mainly because I am very angry with them lately.

    The admins of Wikipedia just seemed to nonchalantly, without warning or allowing means of defense, banned a very active editor who had contributed a great amount to Australian politics, especially in WA elections. The user IgnorantArmies contributed a lot to the encyclopedia.

    But as far as the staff are concerned, the red lights lit up at once and so as far as they care, even if the reason is complete BS, he is to this day, a persona non grata. Despite what he’s done for that site, he will forever be permanently banned.

    It’s for this reason that I don’t think I’ll invest so much time into making contributions there anymore. I put information up there that showed detailed levels of Australian state politics back to the 1930’s, If they’re going to do that to people that don’t deserve it, then I think that’s far enough frankly.

  20. New rules and other stuff –

    New rules – pt 2

    Opening monologue –

    Overtime – take the time to watch this vid, you will not be disappointed.

    Also –

    The whole show for those interested – new rules at 47:00

    • Thanks for that. I really admire Maher with how far he’s prepared to go to show just how disgusting the Trump family is.

      “So it was Donald Trump’s birthday this week. He got the cake, closed his eyes, made a wish, blew out the candles and Ivanka’s dress fell off”.

      I mean there has to be consequences like this to a man that says if a woman wasn’t his daughter he’d be dating her. Maher rises to this perfectly.

  21. Keith Olberman – for those who wish to watch –

    That’s all there is this week folks.

  22. Good morning Dawn Patrollers. Fairly slim picking this Sunday I’m afraid.

    This filing of information won’t satisfy the calls for Trump to release his tax returns.
    Oh dear! As public outrage mounted and political pressure grew on Theresa May over the tragedy, former chief fire officer Ronnie King – who is secretary of the all-party parliamentary group on fire safety – said urgent requests for meetings with ministers and action to tighten rules were stonewalled. This is dynamite.
    In the aftermath of the disastrous Grenfell Tower fire, people are asking how: how can this happen? The answer, writes Dr Samuel Douglas, is that engineering disasters and moral failures often go hand in hand.,10409
    National Broadband Network customers are five times more likely to complain about their service than a non-NBN user, as frustrations continue to surround the nation’s biggest infrastructure project. And it’s only going to get worse! Nice work Tony and Malcolm!
    Matthew Knott reveals how Gonski 2.0 will rip money from the Catholic sector and give it to public schools. Stand by for action as the Senate vote looms.
    Lenore Taylor says that we really do need a federal ICAC.
    The president of the Australian National Imams Council is suing News Corp for defamation for articles describing him as a hate preacher who “preaches hatred of homosexuals, women and other minorities”. Ha ha!
    A crackdown on citizenship rights for children of migrants and foreign diplomats is among a number of dumped Tony Abbott-era proposals to have resurfaced in the Turnbull government’s citizenship revamp writes Michael Koziol.
    Menu fraud is a bizarre behaviour sweeping our cafes and customers need to be aware of it. Cafes lying about the produce they’re selling rips off both producers and customers, who deserve to be served what they believe they are paying for.

  23. Section 2 . . . with Cartoon Corner

    Condemning white supremacy and the alt-right movement shouldn’t be hard. But the Southern Baptist Convention – the nation’s largest Protestant denomination– had its doubts about whether to do so this week. The US really has big societal problems.
    The superannuation funds of eight people accused of running a $130 million tax fraud scheme have been seized by police as part of a mass effort to claw back money. The alleged syndicate members, including the son and daughter of ATO deputy commissioner Michael Cranston, face the prospect of losing their life savings if the proceeds of crime case is successful. Good!

    Annabel Crabbe with the seven stages of ” off the record”.
    Scathingly, Richard Ackland says that Irrespective of what Peter Dutton says, this has been a ground-breaking outcome, and Nauru could be Coalition’s next headache.
    Imre Salusinszky has a fascination with Trump’s comb over. He examines its complex architecture.

    Matt Golding and Trump’s new office furniture.

    More from Golding as he examines the development of Gonski 2.?

    Mark Night reckons Morrison has a big (debt) weight problem!

  24. Ya gotta hand it to BK.

    Just looking at the SMH site for the last few days it seems to be rehashes on rehashes. The same stories just hang around on its front page as if they were stodgy food, stuck in the Herald’s alimentary canal like impacted stools.

    For BK to be able to squeeze anything new out of a Fairfax “news” page so he can populate the Dawn Patrol with fresh links should qualify him for an automatic Gold Walkley. I nominate “Persistence in the face of relentless click bait, recycled stories and sacked journalists who used to actually write stuff”.

  25. Re engineering failures. This letter to the editor in a UK paper gives a hint. Unfortunately it is pay walled so I can only post the start of it. It is enough though to get their drift

    SIR – The construction of buildings in London was controlled between 1667 and 1985 by the London Building Acts and associated constructional bylaws.

    These were administered by district surveyors, appointed by the superintending architect to the Greater London Council but independent as statutory officers who not only helped write the acts but also had the final say over any forms of construction. Many sections of the bylaws included the phrase “to the satisfaction of the district surveyor”.

    The 28 district surveyors (all highly experienced construction professionals, usually both chartered engineers and chartered surveyors), in conjunction with the GLC’s buildings regulation department, ensured that all buildings built in the old London County Council area were safely built.

  26. I really don’t know what all the fuss about the leaking of Fizza’s Mid Winter Ball raving is all about. It’s still going on. I just flicked through Annabel Crabbe’s thing on ‘off the record’, I don’t have time to waste on her drivel, but if she felt moved to explain the rules to us instead of writing about the three Turnbull government ministers who look likely to bring down the government then I suppose that’s her right. Light-weight fluff, not decent comment on the real issues is so very Annabel.

    Have the media forgotten that Julia Gillard’s brilliant speech in 2013 was reported, in full, in the media? Not just a video clip of a bit of the speech but the whole thing, in print. She was obviously prepared for this, expected it and used her speech to target her opponents. A wonderful flourish before her ousting as leader just days later.

    For Fizza and his minions to be carrying on as if some huge crime had been committed in leaking’ his shabby comedy act is ridiculous. If he didn’t know it would be leaked then he’s even dumber than I ever imagined.

    Andrew Probyn thinks so too.
    Malcolm Turnbull’s impression of Donald Trump: Drop the sanctimony and lighten up

    Meanwhile Bozhead Cormann is trying to blame it all on Labor. What a prize dill!
    Bill Shorten outraged at Liberal Senator for ‘disgraceful lie’

  27. I see the disappearing link syndrome has struck again, for those who missed the whole show try this link, it will be worth your time.

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