“Salt-of-the-earth National Party types . . .”

Good morning, Pubsters.

When I read Leone’s dissertation on Noel Pearson a few minutes ago, my instant reaction was “next thread-starter”. I hope Leone will forgive me for doing this.

I will repost BK’s and Gravel’s links very soon.

The link in the tweet should open this story, if not, just google the headline.

You are going to need a vomit bag. This should end any lingering ‘But Noel Pearson does some good work’ thoughts.

Pearson’sarticle contains this drivel.

Salt-of-the-earth National Party types — practical people with indigenous Australians in their electorates — are most open to honest discourse with their indigenous countrymen. Where the average inner-city liberal has met few indigenous Australians, let alone sought to understand their hopes and dreams, country people have lived and worked with them. Like indigenous people, these Australians share an intimate love of and connection to their country. As patriots, they usually understand that the indigenous heritage of this land is their heritage too.

Obviously Pearson has never been to Taree, or to Kempsey, or Port Macquarie, or any of the other National Party homeland towns in NSW that have indigenous communities. Racism is rife and flourishing in every one of them, and those Nats types are right into it. I’d say he, rather than “the average inner-city liberal” is the one who has met few indigenous Australians in these places, if he has met any at all. Being feted on an official visit and escorted around town by white VIPs and the occasional indigenous elder does not give anyone, especially an over-privileged, over-entitled coconut like Pearson an understanding of the way things are in National Party electorates.

I’ve lived in a few places in NSW, from the far north coast to the inland north-west and south-west and a few in between, and in every town, over almost 50 years, I have seen racism loud and clear. For example, I’ve seen the way indigenous tenants have been treated by local landlords and by retailers and the way some teachers discriminate against indigenous students. There’s no reason for this to still be going on after 200+ years. The only reason racism exists is because we teach our children to hate. Being a “salt-of-the-earth National Party type” is no protection from that inbred ignorance. Instead such people are more likely to be the perpetrators of racism.

I have not forgotten the comments that were made by these alleged “salt of the earth National Party types” when Rob Oakeshott, then a newly elected National politician, turned up to a party meeting with his indigenous girlfriend, now his wife.

Oakeshott’s bubbly wife, Sara-Jane, who works part-time for the Birpai Land Council in their home town of Port Macquarie, was his partner and “best friend” when he was elected in 1996 as a Nationals MP to NSW parliament.

At a party to celebrate his success, Oakeshott was stung by a racist remark that seemed to be a pointed reference to his girlfriend’s proud Aboriginal and South Sea Islander heritage.

An older Nationals stalwart was heard telling a group of people that he despaired for the future of the party now that “blacks” were joining its ranks. None of the cronies listening spoke up or challenged his view.

Speaking to The Australian this week, Sara-Jane said she learned of the comment only later

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/rob-oakeshott-put-off-by-racism-in-nationals/story-fn59niix-1225913033617

Comments like that flowed around this area during every one of Oakeshott’s election campaigns and are still out there. They came and still come from National Party stalwarts.

So there, in just a few minutes I’ve demolished Pearson’s argument about the alleged tolerance of white Australian country folks Now I’ll answer his question “Could Pauline Hanson actually help indigenous Australians?”

It’s a resounding “NO!” Not possible. Not when that creature spouts rubbish like this:

Pauline Hanson Says There Is ‘No Definition To An Aboriginal’

‘If you marry an Aboriginal you can be classified as an Aboriginal.’

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/11/28/pauline-hanson-says-there-is-no-definition-to-an-aboriginal/

383 thoughts on ““Salt-of-the-earth National Party types . . .”

  1. 😆

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    So govt points gun at own head and says,”Don’t move or stupid gets it.”

  2. Ah..it’s in days like these, times like these I look back with sentimental, misty-eyed appreciation of Norm Gallagher and the BLF……ahhh!..thems were the days..Norm and the boys wouldn’t take shit from this mob of mongrels!

  3. Is it my imagination or is it snowing in The Pub?

    I’m starting to wonder if I should have tested my home-made raspberry liqueur this morning?!

  4. Adam Spencer on teaching science in primary schools –

    I’d equip every primary school in Australia with a dedicated science teacher, who taught across the entire school, in a laboratory that was hers or his alone. In every school where I have seen this model the results are sensational. You hear anecdotes about kids lining up five minutes before lunch finishes to get the best seats in the lab for the next science class.

    I have the greatest respect for the passionate professionals who teach my two primary school-aged daughters. But they would never in their working lives think about setting something on fire in the classroom, or zapping a few volts through it. They are not qualified, the room isn’t safely designed, and you think helicopter parents can lose it over who gets to stand in the front row of the choir, well just wait until little Johnny gets smoke in his eyes.

    But a dedicated professional could bring the full wonders of science to young sponge-like minds when they need it most

    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/the-one-thing-id-do-to-revolutionise-science-in-australia-20161130-gt0pvm.html

    Excellent idea, but with state schools struggling to provide even basic equipment it’s not going to happen any time soon.

    Just to highlight the contrast between state funded public schools and federally funded private schools there was this story last night.
    Sydney schoolboys take down Martin Shkreli, the ‘most hated man in the world’
    http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/sydney-schoolboys-take-down-martin-shkreli-the-most-hated-man-in-the-world-20161125-gsxcu5

    It’s good news, but here;s the crunch.-
    “Not all schools have the lab facilities that Sydney Grammar has,” she said.

    The consortium is looking to raise money to fit-out an RV [recreational vehicle] as a lab to take out to schools.”
    Shameful. You can have the best science teachers in the world, but if they are denied top-class labs and equipment then they are being wasted.

  5. Weird but not surprising

    Let me just get something clear on the backpacker tax deal.

    The 15% headline rate and the 65% superannuation rate is broadly the same amount as the Hinch/Culleton/Lambie/Labor rate of 13% and 95% superannuation. Or revenue neutral, as they say in the classics.

    BUT:

    The spending commitment of an extra $100m to Landcare is ON TOP of the tax deal.

    So the Greens deal costs the government more than the Labor deal would have at 13%.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2016/dec/01/malcolm-turnbull-flags-security-overhaul-police-let-protestors-off-scot-free-politics-live#comments

  6. On the subject of this thread’s title, regarding the National Party, I think it speaks volumes that the only Majority National Party government ever (Queensland from 1983-1989) seemed to be the closest model of a fascist government that Australia had ever received.

    So of course it’s logic that they never get the chance to grow. Especially under that vile git Joyce, and those repulsive slugs like Christensen that seem like they’ll follow.

    God I hope Christensen loses Dawson in the next election. He is easily one of the worst people in parliament.

  7. ABC is reporting this as a win for Turnbull. They have not made the connection between the extra goodies the government gave out for the Greens and increased cost to the revenue.

  8. “Unionism” and striking has a long, glorious history..:

    “The government was in the hands of the wealthy and aristocratic citizens, called the patricians. They were supposed to be descendants of the three original tribes of Rome. The common citizens were called the plebs or plebeians. At first they had little to do with governing. Bit by bit, however, they tore down the barrier which separated the two orders. The internal history of the republic for the next three centuries is largely the story of how the plebeians wrested reform after reform from the patricians.

    In the early days of the republic the ruling power was divided between two patrician magistrates, elected for one year. These were called consuls. They were chosen by an assembly called the comitia centuriata. It was made up of divisions apportioned in such a way that votes of the patricians counted for much more than those of the far more numerous plebeians. The Senate, the most important political body, consisted of 300 men chosen by the consuls from the patricians. Thus shut out from office and political power, the plebeians were grievously oppressed by their wealthy fellow citizens. True, they were protected from the worst dangers of arbitrary power by the lex Valeria (Valerian law) passed in 509 BC. This law provided that whenever the life or rights of any citizen were at stake, he could appeal from the magistrates to the assembly of the people. However, they suffered from unjust debt laws and from unfair distribution of territory won by conquest.

    The Struggle of the Order (494-287 B.C.)

    To right their wrongs the plebeians went on what today would be called a general strike. In 494 BC they marched out of Rome in a body and threatened to make a new city. This strike terrified the patricians. They agreed to cancel all debts and to release people who were in prison for debt. Furthermore, the plebeians were granted the right to be represented by new officials, called tribunes. The tribunes had the right to veto the act of any magistrate which was unjust to any citizen.

    From this beginning the plebeians went on to gain other rights. They soon won recognition for an assembly of their own, the concilium plebis. They forced the appointment of commissions of ten men, called decemvirs, to put state laws into writing and to have them engraved on 12 bronze tablets. This took place in 450 BC. They won the right to marry patricians by the lex Canuleia in 445 BC. They won appointment or election to public offices, one after another. The chief of these, which were established to relieve the consuls of the growing burdens of administration, were those of quaestors, or treasurers; censors, who kept the lists of the citizens, assessed taxes, and supervised public morals; and praetors, or judges”

  9. ABC’s PM now noting that the Backpackers’ Tax is costing more – as Bowen put it, “… raising taxes but collecting less revenue, Mr Speaker!” – but still saying it was an “undeniable win” for the government, presumably because that is how it will be reported.

    Sort of… “it’s a win because we say it is.”

    If you have the power to foretell the future because you’re the one who writes it up in advance, it’s a sweet position to be in.

  10. https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/33384016/poll-puts-labor-ahead-in-battle-for-key-metro-seats/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/11/30/researchers-may-have-found-many-of-chinas-30-million-missing-girls/

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/italys-most-popular-political-party-is-leading-europe-in-fak

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/11/29/putins-great-patriotic-pseudoscience/ Lysenko is back!!!

    https://www.statnews.com/2016/11/30/donald-trump-vaccines-policy/

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/28/europe/pope-francis-conservative-pushback/index.html

  11. ” ….. a letter on the Treasurer’s letterhead signed by Senator Di Natale of the Greens ….”

  12. If the anti-vaxxers were just putting themselves at risk, I would say ‘go for it, weed out the low end of the gene pool’ but it is innocent kids who get sick and die for lack of vaccinnation.

  13. Asked why the government would do a deal with the Greens when the budget impact was negative to the tune of $160m, and when it already had the numbers in the Senate to secure a 13% tax rate without the additional spend, the prime minister told reporters Landcare was a “great” investment.

    The Coalition has cut $300m from Landcare since 2013.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/dec/01/greens-to-support-15-backpacker-tax-in-return-for-100m-for-landcare#comments

  14. Victoria’s Level Crossing Removal Authority is good at communicating:

    Main Road in St Albans was reopened today [28th November 2016]. This level crossing was one of Victoria’s most dangerous – in the past decade alone there have been two deaths and more than 60 near misses at the crossing.

    It was also one of the most congested crossings in Victoria with the boom gates down for more than an hour in the two-hour morning peak, causing delays and frustration for motorists, cyclists and the community.

    Local resident Dianne Dejanovic was in attendance at the opening. Her son Christian was tragically killed at Main Road level crossing in 2012. A memorial will be installed in the forecourt of the new St Albans Station to honour Christian’s life, as well as the lives of others killed at level crossings in Victoria.

    The project to remove the level crossings at both Main and Furlong roads in St Albans involved 600 staff working over 176,000 hours to excavate 18 Olympic swimming pools-worth of soil and rock to lower the rail line.

    Watch how the works unfolded:

    And two crossings out east:

    The level crossing at Scoresby Road in Bayswater is gone for good – the seventh crossing to be removed in less than two years.

    Scoresby Road was re-opened on Monday after an almost three week closure which is part of a two-month construction blitz that will also remove the Mountain Highway crossing and rebuild Bayswater Station.

    Mountain Highway is now closed while works continue and is due to reopen without boom gates on 23 December.

    Check out the removal video below:

    There’s another level crossing barely 400m away from the Scoresby Road crossing that has now been removed. It is also being eliminated, and if the weather is reasonable that should be done and dusted very soon.

    The project is already helping traffic flow – the main thing, of course – but I think the emphasis on community consultation, engagement, and information is amazing. Not to mention unusual, whether the project(s) are undertaken by the private sector or a government instrumentality. The only other example that comes to mind is the construction of the Snowy Hydro Scheme, though that didn’t exactly require community consultation, and communication back then was vastly different.

  15. I’m really delighted that the projects of removing problematic rail crossings is going so well. And I’m impressed with how much consultation is going in with it.

    However, I hope the Andrews government moves quickly to solve the problems of transport infrastructure in regional Victoria as well. Yes, I know that most of the population lives in Melbourne, but, a lot of roads have simply been ripped apart by the heavy spring rains and it is a thing that regional Victorians that use the highways are grumbling about.

    I just don’t want to see the 2018 election be lost in the regions basically.

  16. I saw the bit where Turnbull spoke about ‘white European backpackers’. Note to Talcum: Not all Europeans are white. Or does he mean only white ones travel to Australia?

  17. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-01/australia-at-risk-of-negative-gdp-after-business-investment-fall/8083250

    The Australian economy is at risk of stagnating, or even shrinking, in the September quarter after official figures showed another steep fall in business investment.

    Key points:

    Capex fell 4 per cent in September quarter
    Economists now tipping GDP move between -0.3 and +0.3pc for September quarter
    Mining investment down 33.7pc over past year, non-mining up 7.2pc
    Business spending on new plant, buildings, equipment and machinery fell 4 per cent in the three months to September 30, according to the Bureau of Statistics, which was less than a 5.2 per cent drop in the June quarter.

    However, it was worse than the typical economist expectation of a 3 per cent decline.

    In particular, Capital Economics noted the 1.9 per cent decline in machinery and equipment investment that feeds directly into the third quarter economic growth data due out next Wednesday.

  18. In regards to Turnbull, I think he’s going to be toast by the time the next elections come in early 2019 (or earlier). He’ll either be rolled by Abbott or a surrogate, who would make the nation so embarrassed as they try to enact policies that would only impress Trump’s legion of internet troll supporters; or he’ll remain there, bruised and withered, just waiting for Shorten to put him out of his misery.

    He is not going to be the second coming of Menzies, just simply a bad leader of a disgusting party that doesn’t deserve to govern.

  19. For those not from the bush Barnaby being Carried legs apart in the cartoon posted by l2 above is the prelude to a green ring on his nuts,

  20. Turnbull’s words were ‘rich white kids from Europe”. Fizza accused Shorten of favouring these kids over poor Pacific Islanders and young Australians.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/backpacker-tax-malcolm-turnbull-attacks-bill-shorten-for-favouring-rich-white-kids-from-europe-20161130-gt1dbc.html

    That tells us a whole lot about Turnbull and his rotten, over-privileged view of the world.

    For someone who had been the archetypal ‘rich white kid’ in his youth to use that term in a derogatory way is breathtaking hypocrisy. Of course, Fizza never backpacked. He travelled first class on his trips to America and England in his younger days. Unlike Abbott, who really did spend a few months backpacking in India.

    Fizza thinks ‘poor Pacific Islanders’ should be brought to Australia as cheap labour, a revisiting of 19th century blackbirding. He thinks young Australians should work for free as interns, or become slaves on work for the dole programs.

    His attitudes are so out of date it’s beyond ludicrous.

    How did we ever end up with this effete fop as PM?

  21. Well, I’ve just met our new next-door-but-one neighbour as he was watering his garden.

    What a connected bloke! On first-name terms with The Bad and The Beautiful. Pals with those about as high as you can go before you (literally) hit the heavens. Godfather III – eat your heart out.

    Impressive man. Interesting stories to come, I hope.

    • Bugger. And here I was thinking Labor could have learned some tips about rolling the votes their way from watching the VS Arashi show from SBS Vice. If only they could have rolled Christensen into the opposition benches using the right gravity slopes, it could’ve been a sure thing. Sadly it wasn’t, it seems odiousness outperforms gravity in the house of reps.

  22. Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    Shorten has predicted that Turnbull won’t be PM at the time of the next election.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bill-shorten-predicts-malcolm-turnbull-wont-be-prime-minister-by-next-election-20161201-gt28ol.html
    John Hewson tells Turnbull that the public couldn’t care less about his “big wins”. He says the government is a sitting duck with no clear medium-term strategies.
    http://www.theage.com.au/comment/guess-what-malcolm-voters-dont-care-about-your-big-win-20161130-gt1d21.html
    And Michelle Grattan wonders if Turnbull persuade sceptical voters that he is actually delivering.
    https://theconversation.com/grattan-on-friday-can-malcolm-turnbull-persuade-sceptical-voters-he-is-delivering-69739
    The government’s ‘big win’ on industrial relations, on which it fought two elections, has been reduced to little more than a rebranding exercise, according to a legal expert.
    http://thenewdaily.com.au/money/work/2016/11/30/abcc-backfire/
    Mungo MacCallum tells us that the Nationals now represent a greater threat to Turnbull than the crossbenchers.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/mungo-maccallum-nationals-now-a-bigger-threat-than-crossbenchers1,9796
    Ben Eltham writes that a badly wounded government limps to the long summer break.
    https://newmatilda.com/2016/12/02/a-badly-wounded-government-limps-to-the-long-summer-break/
    “So did Brandis run dead on $300m in tax payments?” asks Laura Tingle. Google.
    /opinion/so-did-george-brandis-run-dead-on-300-million-in-tax-payments-20161201-gt1s1d
    Baird is becoming a U-turn specialist.
    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/cyclist-id-plan-hits-the-skids-in-latest-baird-government-aboutturn-20161201-gt1uml.html
    Peter Martin with a pessimistic economic outlook for Australia.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/capex-forecasters-fear-weak-investment-will-mean-weak-or-negative-gdp-growth-20161201-gt20z0.html
    You picked them Pauline!
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/pauline-hanson-angry-at-rod-culleton-over-backpacker-tax-vote-20161201-gt28nr.html
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/pauline-hansons-one-nation-splits-over-rod-culletons-high-court-fight-20161201-gt25be.html

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