Melbourne cup sweep 2016

melbourne-cup-packages-2016

The 24 Horses are finalized. Barrier draw is done jockeys picked All that needs to be done now is to get “The Pubs” 2016 Melbourne cup sweep going. The first 24 people to ask for a ticket will go into the draw which I will conduct after all places are filled. Entry is free and first prize will be a $50 BWS voucher or similar from your local bottle shop. A form guide is below the sweep if you wish to check out your horses chances  and Last years race is there if you wish to watch Michelle Payne win on Prince of Penzance.

Names will go into the sweep below after the draw .Good Luck

No Punter  Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Penalty
1 Mrsbrianmcisme  BIG ORANGE (GB) Michael Bell Jamie Spencer  7 57kg
2  BK OUR IVANHOWE (GER) Lee & Anthony Freedman Dwayne Dunn  6 57kg
3  Pol animal CURREN MIROTIC (JPN) Osamu Hirata Tommy Berry  18 56.5kg
4 Kampong Palmer Trev  BONDI BEACH (IRE) Aidan O’Brien Ryan Moore  5 56kg
5 Aguirre  EXOSPHERIC (GB) Lee & Anthony Freedman Damien Oliver  13 56kg
6  Kambah mick HARTNELL (GB) John O’Shea James McDonald 12 56kg
7  georgeousdunny1 WHO SHOT THEBARMAN (NZ) Chris Waller Hugh Bowman  20 56kg
8 RAZZ  WICKLOW BRAVE (GB) William Mullins Frankie Dettori  24 56kg
9  scorpio ALMOONQITH (USA) David & B Hayes & T Dabernig Michael Walker  19 54.5kg
10 kaffeeklatscher  GALLANTE (IRE) Robert Hickmott Blake Shinn  2 54.5kg
11 jaeger GRAND MARSHAL (GB) Chris Waller Ben Melham  9 54.5kg
12  T.L.B.D JAMEKA Ciaron Maher Nicholas Hall  3 54.5kg 2.0kg
13  ck watt HEARTBREAK CITY (FR) Tony Martin Joao Moreira  23 54kg
14  Puffy SIR JOHN HAWKWOOD (IRE) John P Thompson Blake Spriggs  14 54kg 1.5kg
15  Sim EXCESS KNOWLEDGE (GB) Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott Vlad Duric  21 53.5kg
16  Kambah Micks oh

 

 

BEAUTIFUL ROMANCE (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor Damian Lane  1 52.5kg
17  ejames ALMANDIN (GER) Robert Hickmott Kerrin McEvoy  17 52kg 1.0kg
18  brianmcisme ASSIGN (IRE) Robert Hickmott Ms Katelyn Mallyon  22 52kg 1.0kg
19 2 Gravel GREY LION (IRE) Matt Cumani Glen Boss  16 52kg
20  Bilko OCEANOGRAPHER (GB) Charlie Appleby Chad Schofield  11 52kg 1.0kg
21  puffys mum SECRET NUMBER (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor Stephen Baster 10 52kg
22 jaycee  PENTATHLON (NZ) John Wheeler Mark Du Plessis  4 51.5kg
23 Haveachat  QEWY (IRE) Charlie Appleby Craig Williams  15 51.5kg 0.5kg
24 Fiona ROSE OF VIRGINIA (NZ) Lee & Shannon Hope Ben E Thompson(a)  8 51kg

 

1. Big Orange (7)

(GB)
J: JAMIE SPENCER
T: MICHAEL BELL
W: 57KG
PREDICTION: 8TH
Odds: $17
Rating:
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COMMENT: Comes into the race in good form winning 2 x G2 in England. Led and stuck on very well in Melb Cup last year finishing 5th. Will make own luck and stable are confident of a big run. Winning chance.

2. Our Ivanhowe (6)

(GER)
J: DWAYNE DUNN
T: LEE & ANTHONY FREEDMAN
W: 57KG
PREDICTION: 4TH
Odds: $41
Rating:
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COMMENT: Has been going through his gears leading into race. Big run in the Caulf Cup last start suggesting 3200m will be perfect for him. Unlucky runner in Melb Cup last year and has similar conditions this year. Barrier is kind and will get a good run. Big chance. Good e/w odds.

3. Curren Mirotic (18)

(JPN)
J: TOMMY BERRY
T: OSAMU HIRATA
W: 56.5KG
PREDICTION: 22ND
Odds: $31
Rating:
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COMMENT: Comes into the race out of form and 9YO so improvement is unlikely. The only plus is he will make his own luck on speed and Japanese horses have always gone well in our big races but his track work/form says he can’t win. Others better.

4. Bondi Beach (5)

(IRE)
J: RYAN MOORE
T: AIDAN O’BRIEN
W: 56KG
PREDICTION: 5TH
Odds: $9.00
Rating:
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COMMENT: Lightly raced consistent stayer with plenty of upside. Comes into race on the back of two good runs in Irish G3’s with the step up to 3200m to suit. Luckless in last years Melb Cup where he hit the line well when he got room. Looks a big chance.

5. Exospheric (13)

(GB)
J: DAMIEN OLIVER
T: LEE & ANTHONY FREEDMAN
W: 56KG
PREDICTION: 11TH
Odds: $19
Rating:
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COMMENT: Ran a good third in Caulf Cup last start where he stuck on well. Based on Caulf Cup run the 3200m looks a concern and other Internationals come in with better form. Happy to leave out.

6. Hartnell (12)

(GB)
J: JAMES MCDONALD
T: JOHN O’SHEA
W: 56KG
PREDICTION: 6TH
Odds: $5.00
Rating:
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COMMENT: Devastating win in the G1 Turnbull before a distant 2nd to Winx in Cox Plate. Deserving favourite based on Turnbull win and has a lot of class but the 3200m is a query after finishing 15th in Melb Cup last year, despite being unlucky he didn’t hit the line with too much authority. Big chance but better value elsewhere.

7. Who Shot Thebarman (20)

(NZ)
J: HUGH BOWMAN
T: CHRIS WALLER
W: 56KG
PREDICTION: 15TH
Odds: $34
Rating:
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COMMENT: Looked the winner in the MV Cup before being run down. Ticking along nicely and gets the 3200m. 4th in Melb Cup last year so has to be respected. Place chance.

8. Wicklow Brave (24)

(GB)
J: FRANKIE DETTORI
T: WILLIAM MULLINS
W: 56KG
PREDICTION: 9TH
Odds: $18
Rating:
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COMMENT: Last start G1 Irish St Leger winner who has won 6 times over 3200m. Strong gallant stayer who will run a big race but will need some luck from outside barrier. Guaranteed to get the trip and will give a good site. Good e/w bet.

9. Almoonqith (19)

(USA)
J: MICHAEL WALKER
T: D & B HAYES & T DABERNIG
W: 54.5KG
PREDICTION: 12TH
Odds: $21
Rating:
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COMMENT: Has to be respected on his Caulf Cup run when he hit the line well late. If he can get a good run from the wide barrier he has the turn of foot to win but can be a hit or miss horse. Place chance.

10. Gallante (2)

(IRE)
J: BLAKE SHINN
T: ROBERT HICKMOTT
W: 54.5KG
PREDICTION: 20TH
Odds: $67
Rating:
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COMMENT: Good run in the Naturalism behind Jameka two starts ago before a very disappointing run in MV Cup. Won this years Sydney Cup over 3200m which is a plus but on his last start its hard to have him. Take on trust.

11. Grand Marshal (9)

(GB)
J: BEN MELHAM
T: CHRIS WALLER
W: 54.5KG
PREDICTION: 13TH
Odds: $34
Rating:
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COMMENT: Didn’t look to be going too well until a good MV Cup win. Has won Sydney Cup over 3200m so he will stay the distance but will need rain to be a winning chance. Place chance at best. Comes right into the race if he gets a wet track though.
12. Jameka (3)
J: NICHOLAS HALL
T: CIARON MAHER
W: 54.5KG
PREDICTION: 7TH
Odds: $8.00
Rating:
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COMMENT: Impressive Caulf Cup winner. 3200m looks ideal despite breeding saying otherwise. Has had a few small set backs and her odds are on the drift but on her Caulf Cup win she looks hard to beat. Good winning chance.

13. Heartbreak City (23)

(FR)
J: JOAO MOREIRA
T: TONY MARTIN
W: 54KG
PREDICTION: 3RD
Odds: $15
Rating:
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COMMENT: Huge win in the Ebor Handicap last start and before that another good win in the Galway Hurdle. Comes into the race in very good form and he will definitely get the distance. Has a good turn of foot for an out and out stayer but will need luck from barrier. Big winning chance.

14. Sir John Hawkwood (14)

(IRE)
J: BLAKE SPRIGGS
T: JOHN P THOMPSON
W: 54KG
PREDICTION: 21ST
Odds: $81
Rating:
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COMMENT: Good win in the G1 Metrop before disappointing run in Caulf Cup. Untried at the distance which is a concern and hard to have him on last run. Unlikely to figure.

15. Excess Knowledge (21)

(GB)
J: VLAD DURIC
T: GAI WATERHOUSE & ADRIAN BOTT
W: 53.5KG
PREDICTION: 18TH
Odds: $71
Rating:
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COMMENT: Ticking a long okay this prep. Looked the winner in last years Melb Cup at big odds before finishing 7th but was going better this time last year. Place chance at best.

16. Beautiful Romance (1)

(GB)
J: DAMIAN LANE
T: SAEED BIN SUROOR
W: 52.5KG
PREDICTION: 19TH
Odds: $67
Rating:
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COMMENT: Stuck on well in the listed Nayef Stakes in GB last start running 3rd. First up in Melb Cup and other Internationals look better but gets inside barrier and will get an easy run but will need a lot to go his way to win. Happy to leave out.

17. Almandin (17)

(GER)
J: KERRIN MCEVOY
T: ROBERT HICKMOTT
W: 52KG
PREDICTION: 1ST
Odds: $16
Rating:
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COMMENT: Lightly raced stayer. Awesome/easy win last start in G3 at Flem over 2500m when eased down. Gets into the Melb Cup low in the weights and has been set for the race. With luck from barrier he looks very hard to beat. Our top pick. Very good e/w bet.

18. Assign (22)

(IRE)
J: KATELYN MALLYON
T: ROBERT HICKMOTT
W: 52KG
PREDICTION: 17TH
Odds: $71
Rating:
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COMMENT: Won a weak Herbert Power last start but race has been a good form line for Melb Cup’s. Drawn poorly and looks to be 3rd best from stable in the race. Will need a lot to go right for him to figure. Place chance at best.

19. Grey Lion (16)

(IRE)
J: GLEN BOSS
T: MATT CUMANI
W: 52KG
PREDICTION: 14TH
Odds: $31
Rating:
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COMMENT: Was gallant running 2nd in Geelong Cup last start where he had a better run than Qewy and was still beaten. Before that he didn’t look to stay 3000m in France G2 so distance is big query. Prefer others.

20. Oceanographer (11)

(GB)
J: CHAD SCHOFIELD
T: CHARLIE APPLEBY
W: 52KG
PREDICTION: 2ND
Odds: $7.00
Rating:
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COMMENT: Scintillating win in Lexus Stakes and looks like he will relish 3200m. Godolphin did everything to get him into field which says a lot. Has to race 3 times in 2 weeks but if he backs up he looks hard to hold out. Big chance.

21. Secret Number (10)

(GB)
J: STEPHEN BASTER
T: SAEED BIN SUROOR
W: 52KG
PREDICTION: 16TH
Odds: $34
Rating:
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COMMENT: Good win/place record in questionable form races but looks like he will get the distance. Has only raced twice in 12 months which is a concern but with light weight and a decent turn of foot he could surprise. Place chance.

22. Pentathlon (4)

(NZ)
J: MARK DU PLESSIS
T: JOHN WHEELER
W: 51.5KG
PREDICTION: 23RD
Odds: $101
Rating:
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COMMENT: Nothing in his form says he is good enough to win this race. Well beaten in Lexus Stakes last start where he dropped out of race. Can’t see him in the finish and odds support that.

23. Qewy (15)

(IRE)
J: CRAIG WILLIAMS
T: CHARLIE APPLEBY
W: 51.5KG
PREDICTION: 10TH
Odds: $21
Rating:
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COMMENT: All the way winner in Geelong Cup holding off rivals. Will run on the speed and make his own luck and has placed 3 times over distance in 3 starts. Rock hard fit stayer who looks over the odds. Good e/w chance.

24. Rose Of Virginia (8)

(NZ)
J: BEN THOMPSON
T: LEE & SHANNON HOPE
W: 51KG
PREDICTION: 24TH
Odds: $101
Rating:
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COMMENT: Rank outsider of the field and deservingly so. There is nothing to suggest she can go close in this race. Can’t win.

 

 

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676 thoughts on “Melbourne cup sweep 2016

  1. Latest from Nate Silver

    4. What’s the short-term trend in the polls?

    If you look at the polls over the past few days as opposed to the past few weeks, however, it isn’t as clear who’s gaining ground. In that sense, things have become slightly less scary for Clinton. We can debate until we’re blue in the face how safe a 3-point lead is, but a steady 3-point lead is a lot safer than 3-points-and-falling.

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-the-campaign-is-almost-over-and-heres-where-we-stand/?ex_cid=2016-forecast

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

  2. Tlbd – Turnbull is totally see-through on industrial matters.

    He wants

    – Strong regulation of unions on building sites by the ABCC on the basis that they add to construction costs but shows no interest in the number of workers killed or maimed on construction sites due to lack of adherence to safety requirements; and

    – Aggressive regulation of registered organisations by a new regulator rather than add this function to ASIC (quite obviously he wouldn’t want the aggressive registered organisation investigators to ‘infect’ the rest of ASIC’).

  3. I will be SO glad when this damned presidential election is over. I’m bored witless by the constant talk of polling and whatever.

    I can’t vote, so I really can’t get interested. The Yanks will do whatever they do and I can’t do anything to change that so why am I supposed to be fascinated by the whole rotten mess.

    I don’t like either Trump or Clinton. No matter which one is finally elected the world will suffer. I’m at a bit of a loss to decide which one would be the lesser of two evils.

    Why The Age felt the need to pontificate about the candidates in an editorial is beyond my understanding. Totally pointless.

    • I do agree with you. They talk about the Yanks so they wouldn’t have to examine the flaws in our current govt. I would prefer Clinton as I absolutely abhor Trump. JG seems to see something good in Hillary. I have little faith in her myself, judging by some articles.

    • Thank you so much, Leonoetwo. My views on the Age editorial are very similar to yours. I’m surprised how much the MSM has paid attention to this US election. I’ve been surprised by how much attention it has attracted here. Never mind. Tidak-Apah. We are not as yet the 51st State of the Union..

      I doubt that the ‘Orange Person’, will be elected (the Baghwan Donald). And my views,as in so many things, don’t matter. I’m not a Yank. And,I seriously doubt that swinging voters from Frost-Bite Falls, Minnessotta (the home of Rocky and Bullwinkle), or Gennemdown Az, read this bog or the Melbourne Age .

      Thank Christ we have compulsory voting here.

  4. Gigilene is right.

    Our media are ignoring the chaos and corruption in our own government while they deluge us with pointless chatter about the US election.

    So much is slipping under the radar or getting only cursory mentions while this distraction is going on.

  5. My second eldest daughter has just finished her final exam for a Degree in Sonography down in SA Pub Chapter country at the University of SA in Adelaide.

    It has an extremely high pass mark but she is reasonably confident that she has passed ok. It is understandable that it should be high because patients lives may often depend on an accurate scan & diagnosis.

    With her previous Science Degree majoring in Antonymy & Micro-Biology and her First class Honours degree in science, she should be well equipped as a competent Sonographer. There are very few jobs available for female Scientists now.

    Her last job was just a temporary position for 12 months as a Scientist in the Pathology Lab at the local District Hospital so she applied for a trainee-ship style Degree in Sonography in the expectation of ongoing employment in that field.

    We are very proud of her as we are with our other three children.

    Abbott & Turnbull have a lot to answer for with the Australian People with their shameful attitude to science & the continuing benefits to Australians from the brilliant science community that are receiving disgraceful treatment at the hands of these grubs.

  6. I found this on my facebook page & thought it might gain a chuckle or two!

    [ A LETTER FROM A 69yr OLD FEMALE TO AN AGONY AUNT:
    Dear Deidre,
    My husband is a liar and a cheat. He has cheated on me from the beginning and when I confront him, he denies everything. What’s worse, everyone knows he cheats on me. It’s so humiliating.
    Also, since he lost his job 14 years ago, he hasn’t even looked for a new one. All he does all day is smoke cigars, cruise around, shoot pool with his buddies and have sex with hookers, while I work so hard to pay our bills.
    Since our daughter went away to college and then married, he doesn’t even pretend to like me, and hints that I may be a lesbian. Please help. What should I do?
    Confused…..
    Dear Confused,
    Grow up and dump him.You don’t need him anymore. For fuck sake woman, you’re running for President of the United States, get a grip!:) ]

  7. Amazing what a bit of ridicule can do.

    Mad Mal has tried – and failed – to fix his Facebook announcement..

    He finally got it right a few minutes ago – he reduced it to just two ‘Hansons’.

  8. By the way, thanks for the good wishes towards my daughter. She is smart, beautiful and works very hard.

    We hope she has a great future. She certainly deserves it after 7 years of grinding study of some of the hardest subjects available!

    Micro-Biology is the hardest one there is according to Wikipedia.

  9. Scorps – On medical Imaging.

    I have an ultrasound twice a year and in the last 12 months have also been cat scanned, x-ray’d and put through a Hadron Collider (actually a MRI – a most uncomfortable 50 minute exercise).

    It seems that this stuff is woman’s business these days as all the operators were women.

    On ultra scans I’ve noticed that a bit of patience is required by the operator. That’s probably why men are left to be in the scanned group rather than the scanning group.

    • Maybe not global warming. The weather in this part of NSW yesterday was perfect – for bushfires. Very high temperatures, very low humidity, very strong westerly/south westerly winds blowing in warm air and we see the result.

      It’s not unusual to get this sort of perfect fire weather in late spring/early summer here.

  10. carrt2016

    Scorps also mentioned microbiology. That is a field I have in my career found to be “secret women’s business” .. Microbiologist = Chapess..

  11. Jaeger,

    Indeed.

    Russian history from, oh, whenever until 1991, with only a small window thereafter, is also worth perusal.

  12. Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    Legal expert George Williams tells us that Turnbull’s Senate challenge won’t be solved quickly by the High Court. There’s a sting in this article.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/malcolm-turnbulls-senate-challenge-wont-be-solved-by-the-high-court-quickly-20161104-gsi9t2.html
    Greg Jericho writes that it’s time for Turnbull to stop appeasing and start leading when it comes to dealing with climate change.
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2016/nov/06/as-climate-disaster-looms-malcolm-turnbull-needs-to-stop-appeasing-and-start-leading
    I think I’m on the banks’ side with this stoush.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/banks-apple-fight-to-entrench-their-dominance-in-customers-lives-20161102-gsg4pj.html
    Why do some people think they are above the law?
    http://www.smh.com.au/sport/exwallabies-nick-farrjones-jim-williams-and-bruce-worboys-caught-up-in-learn-earn-legend-loan-controversy-20161103-gsgz0w.html
    And another Crown Casino hanger-on gets arrested in China.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/crowns-chinese-middleman-to-vip-highrollers-among-those-arrested-in-raids-20161103-gsh1aj.html
    Sow and ye shall reap apparently.
    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/execution-of-sydney-crime-figure-hamad-assaad-unfolded-in-front-of-police-surveillance-20161105-gsiye5.html
    Aldi is being quite disruptive for the supermarket duopoly.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/retail/woolworths-coles-aldi-which-is-cheapest-for-branded-products-20161101-gsf9ov.html
    Paul McGeough on Donald Trump – Liar-in0Chief.
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-election/donald-trumps-lying-far-more-sinister-than-distortion-of-facts-20161106-gsj5m3.html
    White supremacists are on the move in the US. Watch out!
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-election/for-white-pride-activist-november-9-is-takeover-day-and-donald-trump-is-a-prophet-20161106-gsj2n9.html
    Why Donald is the first of many Trumps to come. Scary.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/why-donald-is-the-first-of-many-trumps-to-come-20161104-gshzg2.html

  13. Section 2 . . .

    Turnbull is about to take a step towards capitulating to his right wing rump in 18c.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/pm-malcolm-turnbull-edging-closer-to-changing-race-hate-laws-20161106-gsj6tm.html
    Michelle Grattan says that ministers are set to look at an 18c inquiry.
    https://theconversation.com/ministers-set-to-look-at-18c-inquiry-68307
    More push-back from GPs against health funding cuts.
    http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/radical-medicare-revamp-will-fail-patients-as-health-care-homes-trial-funding-falls-short-say-doctors-20161106-gsj6y9.html
    If this is any indication of how Trump will behave if he gets beaten then watch out!
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-election/donald-trumps-campaign-manager-casts-doubt-on-legality-of-early-nevada-voting-20161106-gsjb82.html
    Mark Kenny on his court case with Mr Nasty Senator Leyonhjelm.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/the-proof-is-in-the-posturing-free-speech-push-mired-in-politics-20161106-gsj186.html
    Jess Irvine writes that there is nothing to fear from Big Australia. We need immigration. And she busts a few myths.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/we-should-keep-australias-borders-open-to-as-many-as-possible-because-its-the-right-thing-to-do-20161104-gsielf.html
    Meanwhile Amanda Vanstone says that it’s not racist to speak out about migration.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/its-not-racist-to-speak-out-about-migration-20161104-gsi0sj.html
    Eltham locals come out in force against far right “out of towners” demonstrating against the settlement of 120 Syrian refugees.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/nov/05/anti-refugee-rally-counter-protesters-turn-up-in-strength-butterflies-and-all
    Mikki Cusack looks at how Australia is heading towards becoming America’s identical twin.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/weve-become-americas-identical-twin-but-weve-got-too-much-to-lose-20161101-gsfp0w.html
    Australia is seeing a disturbing brain drain of its scientists.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-07/lack-of-funding-sees-scientists-leaving-labs-in-droves/7996604?utm_hp_ref=au-homepage

  14. Section 4 . . . Cartoon Corner

    Mark David’s back after a short break.

    David Rowe with the “assassination attempt” on Trump.

    Cathy Wilcox and the acceptability of boats.

    David Pope has the ugly American casting his vote.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/act-news/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0
    Mark Knight must get the prize for the most disturbing image of Trump!
    http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/2c9eb31364be88e5aa1ae4260182ffce?width=1024
    Again The Australian is wall to wall on 18c and defence of Leak. Here’s an example.
    http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/ad9c6d4b77dffde39b620609f09c8ff7
    And Leak himself continues the campaign against Triggs.
    http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/50ad8338075e30ce4087e05f9071f15a

  15. Turnbull might be considering changing 18C, but if he does he will start a war with NSW Liberals.

    NSW Libs threaten revolt if race hate laws diluted

    Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s decision to examine changes to the Racial Discrimination Act risks sparking a cross-border war in the Liberal Party after NSW MPs warned they would not accept any watering down of protections against hate speech.

    In an escalation of tensions inside the Coalition, NSW Liberals, speaking on condition of anonymity, said their state was the most multicultural and, apart from Tony Abbott, no one from NSW was willing either to amend or repeal section 18C of the act.

    “There’s no NSW people who support this. It says a lot about this,” said one of several NSW Liberals. “This is the most ethnically diverse state. This is not an issue in NSW that people care about.”

    A colleague concurred, saying 18C was a niche issue being pushed by either “ideologues in the Senate” or MPs “who don’t come from multicultural parts of Australia”.

    “We’re the most multicultural state in Australia,” he said. “The NSW people have no appetite to go there. We’re comfortable with the laws.

    “We all preside over ethnically diverse communities except the member for Warringah [Mr Abbott

    http://www.afr.com/news/politics/nsw-libs-threaten-revolt-if-race-hate-laws-diluted-20161105-gsiz6v#ixzz4PGUBWbiJ

    So what does a chap without a spine do now?

  16. Was out in the “deep Mallee” yesterday looking at those charcoal pits my relatives worked at as enemy aliens during the 2nd,WW..was walking between sites when we came across this wrack and ruin of trees ripped apart by what must have been one hell of a wurlie-wurlie…a little while later, at another place there, we heard a wild thrashing amongst the trees a way away which sounded like some strange sort of monster approaching!..no kidding, you couldn’t see anything for the density of the trees, but you could hear this roaring and crashing as it approached…there was no wind about, but as it got closer you could make out th sound as the thrashing of tree limbs in a wild stormy wind!…Quite scary in it’s unknown quantity..but it then turned and the noise went in a different direction..I could imagine such a thing being quite a moment in another age of superstition and fantasy..
    Below is a pic of some of that damage we came across..there was much more..you can see them on my Facebook page..

    • From Eric Knight’s book of tales..”All Yankees are liars”…an example of the perfect intellectual standard for Sen’ Roberts..:

      “…”Well, yes. New England is a part of the United States,” Mr. Smith said. “But it’s thousands of miles away from where I live. In fact, believe it or not, I should think you’re closer to the Yankees than I am. You see, the United States is a big country. In the part where the Yankees come from, it gets very cold in the winter. Where I am—in Southern California—it never snows. Why, I’ve never known it to snow there in all my life.”

      “No snow?” Gollicker breathed.

      Mr. Smith smiled. For, after all, he was a Southern Californian—and they were discussing climate. “No snow,” he said. “In wintertime we have a bit of a rainy season, but after February it clears, and then it doesn’t even rain for nine months—not a drop.”

      “Noa rain for a nine month—noan at all?” Saw Cooper asked.

      “Not a drop. Day after day, the sun comes out, clear skies, never a drop of rain for nine months. Never!”

      “Whet do ye graw theer, lad?” Saw asked, slyly.

      “Lots of things. Truck, vegetables, oranges—all kinds of things.”

      There was a silence again. Big Ian took a breath. “Orinjis,” he said, and then took another breath, “graw i’ Spain.”

      He looked at Mr. Smith so emphatically that Mr. Smith nodded.

      “Oh, yes,” he said. “They grow in Spain, too, I understand.”

      “Orinjis,” Ian repeated, “graw i’ Spain.”

      That seemed to settle the question. They all looked in the fire in silence. Saw Cooper sniffed…”

  17. If you think the PHON policy is screwy, read the comments to the article. Here’s just one example (and not a particularly egregious one at that… I picked one quickly because I needed to get outa there)

    Louise 2 HOURS AGO
    He asked them to stump up the empirical evidence and they couldn’t. No more blustering and manufactured outrage combined with name-calling as to why they shouldn’t have to provide evidence for their claims. Speculative computer modeling isn’t evidence.

    These institutions can make claims to ‘hottest eva’ by fractions of a degree but mysteriously fail to mention well documented paleoclimate data. They adjust ground temp data at stations like Rutherglen from a 2 degree cooling to a 2 degree warming hoping no one would notice, and then use avoidance and woefully inadequate explanations….followed by political intervention to get them off the hook. Given the policy consequences and billions involved, we need to audit as we would for any business organization.

    This inquiry is needed to stop the ludicrous climate gravy train. Those squealing loudest are scientists who fear their flow of taxpayer cash will go to more worthy issues, politicians like Shorten who are lacking relevance and in need of a cause to generate taxes and the mammoth industry, like wind energy as well as union super funds that are invested in it because of lucrative Government subsidies.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/climate/one-nation-call-for-audit-over-csiro-climate-claims/news-story/eee35aff8b4d9fb6a199f267700b8b37

    Sheesh!

    • These echo-chambers get their impetus from such as Jennifer Marohasy and her coterie of suck’oles…You never read such foolish shit in all your born days!
      The so-called Rutherglen switcheroo is derived from temp’ figures gathered in some areas before there was a uniform method of temp’ recording..ie; when some farmers and amateur recorders were taking readings from thermometers housed in all sorts of containers and locations and therefore corrupted by those situations..
      Hopeless.

    • “Sheesh!” was my reaction when I saw the first few comments. Then I ran away.

      There’s only so much stupid I can take.

      I do suspect the comments were arranged by One Nation though. t’s easy to get a few supporters to deluge an online article with comments. I’d love to be able to track those who commented.

  18. Perhaps Rupert Murdoch ought to be made ; “Father of the Nation”..after all,so much of the MSM and the right-wing political mainstream shelter under his “roof”. Heavens knows what they will do once he passes away..become “homeless” one would presume.
    Now THERE would be a legitimate example of the “deserving poor”.

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