A little earlier this evening there was a short debate that seemed to have at its core the origins of the worst ever Australian politicians.
This is my contribution.
State and Territory rivalry when it comes to appalling politicians?
Nah, every, but every, bit of Oz has produced them.
Queensland? “Sir” Joh has to take the pumpkin scone,
but he may even have been excelled by Sir Russ Hinze,
not to mention Candont:
New South Wales? Ladies and gentleplums, I gives ya The Rum Corps in all its manifold manifestations up to the present day.
Robert Robin Askin.
Victoria? Bolte goes without saying (pity he didn’t go without hanging someone else).
The so appropriately-named Sir Thomas Bent?
Mania? The prize pig at the moment is obviously Erica, but
and possibly Joe Lyons
should get a mention. Or a guernsey. Or a life.
South Oz? Laydees and Gemmum, I gives ya Corgi Bernardi.
Enuff said (but sure, there’s more – XXXXX).
Sandgropers? Brian Burke
Ross Lightfoot (and light other things):
. . . need I continue?
ACT? Kate Carnell,
but in spite of everything I adored Gus Petersilka (yeah, well, once upon a time self-government seemed to be a good idea):
Northern Territory? Hard to know where to start, given the astonishing fluidity of politics there.
Of course my bias is showing. I would be delighted if you would share your own particular biases with The Pub!
288 thoughts on “Political Infamy”
WTTE on ABC24
Pyne – There is no fissure between Malcolm Turnbull and Tony Abbott.
Frydenberg – It was started by the Labor Party because we were starting to gain traction on industrial legislation.
Well, there are a couple of comedians
Thanks BK for your daily roundup
When I was looking at the Huffpost highlights of the debate I noticed that Trump has veneers or caps on his teeth while Hillary still has her own choppers meaning Trump hasn’t taken care of himself hence the veneers and Hillary has taken care of herself and still has her own teeth. I think their teeth demonstrate their differences of personality and indicate their stewardship of the USA
Can they apply the gag in the senate?
I’m not sure. But they certainly won’t want to see a long debate that will tear strips off them before voting the bill down.
No, there’s no gagging debate in the senate but there is another way to shut down a debate.
The government could just move that the question be put, or could move to adjourn.
But – stopping debate would be pointless for the marriage equality bill. Both tactics would need a division, because there’s no way Labor would allow the chair to rule on the voices on this issue, and the government would lose.
Have a look at the petulance of Trump as he rips up his notes after the last debate.
Speaking of “Political Infamy”, James Massola tweeted this, this morning:
Heh, heh… fighting on who gets to go on the ABC to spout the latest talking points. Imagine if she’d been booted in favour of a Labor spokesperson!
This morning’s chiding of Brissenden on AM by some Liberal droid over not sticking to “the issue of this week” (aka “the CFMEU”), builds on Brandis telling the same interlocutor that Sam Dastyari’s $1,700 was the issue of that week, not Liberal (aka Julie Bishop) donation rorts in Western Australia.
They see Brissenden as a pushover, there to do as he’s told, and Brissenden obliges, mostly. This morning’s stifled guffaw from him was an exception.
He also played Chris Pyne’s preposterous statement that everyone was friends in the Liberal ranks. Pyne works on the principle that if you tell a lie, you may as well make it a whopper.
In my view, since reading Niki Savva’s book, I have been much surer of the proposition that what appears to be a fuck-up in the Liberal ranks, is a fuck-up. All the Liberal infighting, punching and counter-punching of the Abbott era that was denied by the likes of Pyne and his ilk, turned out to be true, in spades. The perception of rolling chaos was 100% correct, despite the denials.
The Media also participated in this cover-up. Round up the Usual Suspects when you want to list how many journalists assured us that Abbott was “statesmanlike”, “in control”, “supported by his party”, that “Turnbull had no chance of taking over” (and did not want to) etc. etc. I’ll only list one for the record: Niki Savva herself. Her book was presented as a “tell-all”. But it told all as much about Savva as it did about fear and loathing in the Prime Minister’s bunker.
In seeking to establish her credibility as an “insider” she blew her credibility as anything but a Liberal stooge. Now she tells us!
It’s quite possible that the 1-seat majority turnbull won in the House of Representatives was won only because he piled millions into the party at the last minute. Deprived of NSW state electoral funding by their own perfidy and double-dealing, the Libs turned to Malcolm to bail them out. He was the Florence Foster Jenkins of his own party,
hiring the hall, printing the programs, putting up the posters, arranging for the orchestra, giving out free tickets and finally going on stage, pathetically warbling off key to the (by then) bought and paid for adulation of the party ranks.
Idiots like Pyne and so many others owe Turnbull their arses. They’d be in the Opposition offices now, crowded up shoulder to shoulder like so many live exports, lowing in despair as they were shipped off to their fate, had Turnbull not bankrolled their narrow election victory.
And yet he gets no thanks for it, as Florence Foster Jenkins got none either.
This joke, this farce that the Liberals and their government have become – as industries slide beneath the waves, jobs are destroyed and pensioners are washed up on desert islands to fend for themselves – is only being propped up by a dying privately owned media, plus a compliant ABC too afraid of its own shadow to do its job: point out the bleedin’ obvious.
No wonder the government is tanking in the polls. I can’t see a bottoming out any time soon. Turnbull is not being held back, as Katharine Murphy says, restrained by an ungovernable party room and a nasty Bill shorten.
The “Turnbull” we are seeing now is the real Malcolm Turnbull, a yodelling political soap opera failure: vain, besotted with his own image, and craving power at any price, including his so-called principles; in charge of a sinking ship kept afloat only by his money and the deluded dreams of his few remaining fans in the media, so scared of stepping out of line that they will say anything, tell any lie, exaggerate any so-called success to prop up their hero.
Now they are openly taking sides.
No, YOU lied!
It’s like watching a bunch of badly brought up pre-schoolers having a group tantrum.
Conservative MP backs Tony Abbott’s account of Adler shotgun deal row
“Malcolm Turnbull, a yodelling political soap opera failure”
Pretty Switzerland and its somewhat shrieky yodel:
Here’s a classic rant at Trump and the Republican Party from Keith Olbermann after the debate. A cracker!
David Rowe with Bill Shorten enjoying the trap shooting.
The fundraising big event new york Catholic Arch Bishop’s dinner is being broadcast live. Trump’s jokes are a bit flat but Hilary is laughing at them.
This is getting embarrassing.
But maybe this is a NY thing.
The Arch Bishop is not looking to happy.
People have stopped laughing.
And have started to boo big ime!
For anyone who missed Bill’s great rant in qt yesterday.
ThevAB is looking vey embarrassed and is whispering to Hilary. Hilary is smiling and laughing it off. But there has been some booing at him, or would that be people agreeing with his sledging of Hilary?
Nope itvwascagainst, he got polite applause and jeering.
at the end of his speech.
Almost his whole speech was ‘humorous’ digs at Hilary.
Hilary starts by talking about the charity. And is doing humour well.
Hilary is having some digs at Trump. Perhaps that is par for the course at this dinner?
now hilary is getting a few boos but mostly applause.
A snippet about the Al Smith Dinner:
I don’t understand this American thing with insulting people being funny. I don’t understand ‘roasts’ and stuff like the Al Smith Dinner. To me it all seems very childish and inane.
I agree. However, the American sense of “humour” is very different from Anglo humour, and Australia is far more like Anglo than American (thank goodness).
I thought humour was poking fun at yourself, at these things.
No, it’s saying nasty things about the guest of honour, or your opponent, while they have to sit there smiling and pretending it’s all in fun.
oh well, USA humour is a bit of a mystery to me.
For a moment I thought this was about Ian Macdonald, or Barry O’Sullivan, or maybe George, or perhaps Pauline.
A new dinosaur species has been discovered in Australia
I do not know why Richard Marles bothers doing a show on Sky News with Pyne. Pyne just lies and lies and lies with no shame. He is just rolling out the untruths while chanting slogans. What is the point of engaging with him?
You are a very brave dragon to watch that. I can’t stand the sound of Pyne’s voice for more than a couple of seconds.
Marles is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Stephen Colbert’s take on teh third Clinton Trump debate
George W Bush was surprisingly good at entering in to the spirit of these sort of gatherings.
Some of his efforts at the Washington Press Club annual dinner were funny as.
Actually the White House Correspondents’ Dinner …
This is his last one.
An elegant home with lots of greyhounds:
An entertaining and informative article on Lebanon by Robert Fisk –
The New York Daily News comes out with an amazing call to the country electorally bury Trump and then goes into great and forensic detail of why.
and all the other cartoons there are good.
All that lying and finger-pointing and grand-standing, and the ban on the Adler stays exactly as it is. For now.
States fail to reach agreement on classification of Adler shotgun, current ban remains in place
Fairfax carefully avoided mentioning the name of the NSW Minister for Police. It’s Troy Grant.
The Adoration continues
Katharine is getting the heehaw in the comments.
If Katherine Murphy is being paid by the number of clicks her articles generate, she is raking it in as everyone clicks on the aticle to get to the comments so they can make disparaging comments or click on recommendations
Either way, she wins
Malaysia Budget 2017.
Commitment or pre-election softener from PM Najib? No sure about the growth figures. The IMF projections are lower. The ‘Gahmen’, has been running a deficit for about 19 years (and they have had some periods of impressive growth). I doubt that former PM Dr M’s “Vision 2020” is going to be achieved on time – but they have made some gains.
Interesting approach to first-home buyers – allowing then to access some of their super (Employees Provident Fund). Similar to Singapore with people accessing their CPF (Central Provident Fund) to buy HDB Flats.
Kampong Palmer Trev
If it’s looking bad for him couldn’t he just chuck some 1MBD money back in …
If you can’t have enough of Shorten’s speech yesterday –
Here’s the written version.
Shorten’s zingerthon nails Turnbull’s continuing cluster cock-ups. Masterful!
Funny, though. Shorten has been making speeches like this – probably not quite as good – for a long time now, but after this once we are seeing lots of ‘At last he’s showing some personality.a sense of humour’ type comments. Where have all these people been? Asleep under a rock somewhere?
My grandparents have given me a good book to read in my spare time, the autobiography of Senator John Button.
I don’t know much about him since he was before my time, but from what I’ve read so far, he seems to be a wonderful person in Labor history.
I’m thinking I might see if I can get more books about prominent Australian politicians. I’ve already got a few to start with – Julia Gillard, Arthur Calwell, Steve Bracks and now this one.
Flying the Kite was a favourite of my mother’s.
If Fiona would give you my e-mail address, I should be able to help you.
He must be running out of places to hide, what with the US Justice Dept report and investigations elsewhere. Same for his wife and step-son and others. Pressure appears to be real for UMNO to reform itself. I’m never that confident of change in Bolehland and I like to be careful what I say. At times I’m surprised that the country has stayed together since Merdeka (independence) in 1957. There is growing discontent among the middle-class (and these days, not all of them are Chinese – and not all Chinese are rich ‘towkays’). Many educated/aware Malays are just as disturbed about the developments in recent years. Malaysians deserve much better.
I was genuinely moved a few weeks ago when I read a comment elsewhere that said of the state of affairs in Malaysia – “Cry My Beloved Country”. Pretty much said all that was needed.
Kampong Palmer Trev
The whole thing didn’t ‘fly’ so well to start with but then seemed to get better but not so well now.
I understand why you need to be cautious about what you say.
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