Sly Grog Saturday – and Sunday Too!

Gin Mill

This thread-starter was inspired by a review I read this morning of a new biography of Kate Leigh.

For those who don’t know, from the ‘teens of the 20th century through to the early 1950s, much of the trade in sly grog, illicit drugs, and prostitution was controlled by two powerful women:

New South Wales Police Forensic Photography Archive

Kate Leigh


News Corp

Tilly Devine

These women were also intimately (in every sense) – especially Tilly Devine – involved in the razor gang wars of the 1920s and 1930s, which I remember both my parents mentioning sometimes when I was young (they both grew up pretty close to the matriarchs’ main area of operation – Surry Hills, Darlinghurst, and Woolloomooloo).

Archives Outside

However, I didn’t know much about the razor gangs, or Mesdames Leigh and Devine, until I read this:


Interesting times – though, in reality, nothing has changed.

To more serious matters. As The Boss is away, I thought we might indulge in a little loucheness this weekend, so let’s hit the town!

Greg Poppleton

Anything could happen . . . we could be raided

Bakelite Jazz

. . . have a few glasses of sly grog at the bar


. . . enjoy the *ahem* show

A Beautiful Book

. . . or perhaps have a little flutter


Watch this space.


136 thoughts on “Sly Grog Saturday – and Sunday Too!

  1. Syrian Army: PKK Provocations Unacceptable, Required Response

    The General Command of the Syrian Army and Armed Forces said that the Asayish, the military wing of the Kurdistan Workers Party, has recently escalated its provocative actions in Hasaka city, attacking state establishments, stealing oil and cotton, disrupting examinations, carrying out abductions, and causing a state of chaos and instability, SANA reported.

    In a statement on Friday, the General Command said that these actions took a more dangerous turn as the Asayish encircled Hasaka city, shelled it with artillery and tanks, and targeted Syrian Arab Army positions in it, claiming the lives of a number of military personnel and civilians.

    The General Command said that the Asayish did not respond to all the attempts that were made to contain the situation and restore security and stability to the city; instead they persisted in carrying out their crimes in a bid to seize control of the city, which required the a suitable response by Syrian Arab Army as it targeted the sources of artillery fire and the gatherings of armed elements responsible for these criminal actions.

    The statement clarified that the recurring attacks on citizens and the Syrian Arab Army are carried out exclusively by the Asayish and are not related to any specific Syrian component, affirming at the same time that it will respond to any such attack by any side and exert efforts to prevent the situation from escalating in order to preserve Syria’s territorial integrity and the safety of Syrian citizens.</url.

  2. Back a bit there was talk about given names defining character. I came to know a bloke named Franco Benito Adolph C###. . His father must have been a great bloke! Benny, as he was known to his friends, was a major drug dealer about 30 years ago. I think someone shot him dead.

  3. Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    The ABS is now coming the “any publicity is good publicity” line. Next thing they’ll call it a masterstroke.
    Urban Wronski says the government without a moral rudder is drowning by numbers.
    Further ramping up on the call for a banking Royal Commission from Labor.
    And now the rapacious behaviour of power companies comes very much under the Senate spotlight. Go get ’em!
    Labor and The Greens slam the delay in the SSM plebiscite.
    Terri Butler’s interview on the subject yesterday was very good.
    Ross Gittins – there IS a better path to growth.
    In a similar vein The Chifley Institute says it’s time to forget about trickle down economics. Well worth reading. Google.
    Trump’s maze of debts and opaque lies. Master business man? Pffft!
    Architect Philip Cox says that if you take the Harbour away Sydney is a “pretty ratshit city”. Google.
    ACOSS hits out at the government of the impending reduction of a $4 per week supplement for the poorest recipients of welfare payments.
    Woolworths’ magnificent management is likely to announce a $1b loss.

  4. Section 2 . . .

    Is this another indication of the “productivity” ideology.
    The key to children’s success is to improve their wellbeing. The item that is missing from school reports.
    Nick Xenophon proposes that the RBA should replace its inflation target with one about growth. Abd he’s not alone.
    Is it time to re-evaluate our obsession with the Olympic Games?
    Will new One Nation senator, Culleton, be forced into bankruptcy and lose his seat? Google.
    An auction frenzy after the latest interest rate cut has put the heat on the RBA. Google.
    A Port Adelaide fan shows her class. The responses from both clubs and the victim also showed theirs.
    Lawyer Tm Dick writes that Pauling Hanson should be worries about Christianity’s decline rather than Islam’s growth.
    Peter Wicks with an alternative to Hanson’s Royal Commission into Islam.,9382
    An interesting Australian history through lollies.

  5. This burkini thing – this is going to be a longish rant, because I’ve had enough and I’m cranky.

    I really wish old men would stop telling women what they can and can’t wear.

    What’s wrong with wearing a burkini at the beach? Nigella Lawson wore one on Bondi beach a few years ago and no-one arrested her. She did cop a lot of criticism from the anti-Muslim lot, but her reason was simple. She was protecting her English rose complexion from the Australian sun. Plus, of course, she was getting herself a lot of media attention. Clever girl!

    Parents around the world dress little boys and girls in neck-to-knee or even neck-to-ankle lycra suits, often with long sleeves, plus sunhats, for the beach. Some even go to the extent of little lycra shoes (allegedly so their tiny feet will be protected from stray syringes in the sand) saying we are protecting them from future skin cancer. No-one ever suggests that these children are odd, or look like Muslims, or risk drowning by covering up in the sun. Their parents are praised for taking such elaborate care of their little darlings.

    When the same little kids become teenagers boys are still allowed to cover up and can wear knee-length shorts and T-shirts, but are mocked if they wear Speedos. But society decides girls should be wearing bikinis, no shoes and no hats. If they want to keep the neck-to-knee stuff society tells them they are odd, or must have leanings towards Islam. Why else would they want to cover up and deny dirty old men a chance to perve at their almost naked nubile bodies? Women are supposed to show skin, a lot of skin at the beach while men are not. Skin cancer? Who cares. Just slap on some more sunscreen, darling, you will be fine.

    But a Muslim woman decides to wear a burkini to the beach and all hell breaks loose. It’s just not allowed. Governments and councils make laws saying the woman, who as a child was possibly encouraged to cover up, must now expose her body whether she wants to or not, or face arrest and charges.

    Could someone explain to me why this –

    is considered appropriate beachwear for children, and is encouraged and praised while this –

    is considered inappropriate, is banned and women wearing it are arrested? Because I really can’t see any difference.

    Humans are strange. Shouldn’t we be demanding young women cover up on the beach? After all, when a young woman is attacked and raped during a night out we say it must be because she was wearing a short skirt, or a low-cut top, and in doing that she encouraged the attention of her attacker. If only women would dress more modestly, we sigh, then they would be safe. Men, it seems, are unable to control their primeval urges when confronted by too much bare female flesh, we must help the poor things to be more restrained.

    But a young woman does decide to dress modestly for the beach by wearing a burkini and what happens? The same society that tells her she needs to cover up so men will not be driven wild by her bare legs now tells her she is wearing far too much, covering up far too much skin. If she insists on covering up and dressing modestly she gets arrested, she is told her outfit is unhygenic, she is told it would hamper her rescue should she get into difficulties in the water. She must take it off and wear ‘proper’ swimwear if she wants to swim. What about that thing about avoiding rape by not dressing provocatively? It seems that does not apply to the beach, or the pool. Men, it seems, can control their urges when surrounded by throngs of almost naked female bodies, it’s only when they are faced with one female in a mini-skirt or a low-cut top they lose control. How ridiculous is that? What we really mean is ‘you look like a Muslim and we hate Muslims’.

    Just stop telling women what they can wear! It isn’t Muslim men forcing their women to cover up with hijabs, burqas and burkinis, it’s not a sign these women are oppressed by their menfolk. Quite the opposite. There is no instruction in the Quran requiring Muslim women to wear these things.

    The laws in some predominantly Muslim countries requiring women to cover up in public are made by misogynist old men. In Australia, and in France, and in other places where until now there have been no such laws Muslim women can choose what they wear in public, just like women choose flat shoes over stiletto heels, or choose longer skirts over shorter ones. It’s called freedom. I thought we were all for freedom. It seems not. We now have law-makers in France telling women they must not wear hijabs, or burqas, or birkinis simply because they want to teach their people to fear and hate anyone who is ‘other’. If right-wing nutters like Hanson have their way we will have such laws in Australia soon too.

    • It is just part of the anti-Islamic thing. I fully agree with Leone. I haven’t followed this chatter or whatever it is, but I’m very surprised that anyone other than the nutters is bothered. It actually looked quite good on the pic Leone ran. And nobody turned a hair when Cathy Freeman wore her full length outfit in the Sydney Olympics. Perhaps it helps if you’re a winner. They tried to make a fuss over her having an Aboriginal flag, while not recognising the hypocrisy in having a Boxing Kangaroo flag.

      In the Philippines, after three centuries of Spanish occupation, certain customs on the modesty of women had become accepted. Swimwear showed too much of the body, especially the legs. So although they’d usually have the latest swimwear for bathing, they’d invariably wear a dress, sometimes a longish skirt, over the bathing costume.

      To me it seemed absurd, but it is their country and choice. So we just accepted it as the norm. I don’t see that we have a right to be offended or to demand that others do as we urge.

    • Non-Muslims flock to buy burkinis as French bans raise profile of the modest swimwear style

      Over the past eight years, Aheda Zanetti​ has sold 700,000 swimsuits to clients all over the world. Her designs, costing from $80 to $200, are sought out from Norway to Israel and are each made in Villawood, western Sydney.

      Zanetti is the Australian inventor of the burkini and the swimsuits she sells under the label Ahiida are full body, hooded and inspired by Islamic modesty.

      But what is particularly interesting about Ahiida, which now finds itself in the crosshairs of controversial French rules banning the garment on the basis of secularism laws, is that 45 per cent of its clients, Zanetti estimates, are non-Muslims.

      “This is about choice,” says Zanetti, who hails from Lebanon and moved to Bankstown when she was two. “The burkini stands for freedom, flexibility and confidence, it does not stand for misery, torture and terror.”

  6. Irony?

    The minister for human services, Alan Tudge, has said there is still public support for offshore detention in the wake of the Nauru files published by Guardian Australia.

    Asked by Paul Kelly on Sky News if he believed “given the revelations in recent weeks that there is still public support for offshore detention”, Tudge responded: “I still think there is public support for our strong border protection regime which as you know consists of three parts.

    “Turning back the boats when it’s safe to do so, offshore detention and temporary protection visas.

    Our “border protection scheme”, like Gaul of old, now has three parts.

    • Do they write their own Key Performance Indicators or, nudge nudge wink wink, does Mr Egan do that for them?

  7. Quick HI Update

    Do they write their own Key Performance Indicators or, nudge nudge wink wink, does Mr Egan do that for them?

    Her Indoors’ Key Performance Indicators are:

    * Do no work,
    * Get paid (including pay rise increments, accrued annual leave, allocated days off, superannuation etc.),

    Still ongoing, but we haven’t heard a peep out of them for 13 weeks, when they wrote, telling us it would all be over… in 1 week.

    We are starting to think they’ve forgotten about us, or we are in the “Too Hard” basket, or both. We’ve now been paid more than a full FWA/IRC settlement of 26 weeks would have achieved (we are now at 43 weeks paid and/or accrued, and counting), so I guess we can’t complain. It’s a sort-of “win”, at least financially.

    Terrible waste of public money, though. We could have registered and insured both our cars 50 times over with the money they’ve paid out to HI for doing absolutely nothing.

    Case Studies
    On wasting money… One of the accusations against HI was that she nearly over-spent $10 on a sandwich plate order by miscalculating the GST on fresh food (she forgot there’s no GST on fresh fruit).

    On wasting time… Incredibly, another was that she was a “poor communicator”, by not writing to “stakeholders” in a timely manner (she was 2 hours late).

    You could almost weep at the hypocrisy of these people.

    • Salt away the pay because chances are this is her last paid job. Not fair, I know! The emotional bruising of this process will be leaving scars to say nothing of professional reputation and most employers shy away from hiring problems

  8. Murdoch Rags

    they are not worth reading even at half price and dont mention the freebies in public areas, all rubbish IMHO

  9. Alan Tudge – such an unfortunate surname. I’d have changed it at the first opportunity, if I’d been saddled with a name that rhymes with ‘sludge’ ‘trudge’ and ‘drudge’.

  10. Salt away the pay because chances are this is her last paid job. Not fair, I know!

    Oh, we are.

    The Industrial Relations Commission rulings are choc-a-bloc with trashed workers rights, orders ignored by the Public Service, then appealed by them as a time-wasting process, then lapsed, because the employee went broke trying to fight them and employer intransigence, plus outright bastardry.

    And that’s before I even get to nit-picking judges in cahoots with cynical lawyers wrecking people’s lives with technical minutiae… even when the workers won their case, they lost.

    So, yes, this is the last throw of the dice… when they deign to contact us, that is (which they haven’t done for 3 months).

  11. Starting to get excited at my Tassie holiday! Will get car serviced and safety check done this week. Next Tuesday will head to niece’s place and spend the night there then we head off the next day. Get to Horsham, have a spot to eat and stretch the legs etc, then through the Grampians to the Great Ocean Rd. Stay there overnight then down the GO Rd to Melbourne and the Spirit of Tasmania dock, onto the ferry and to Tassie. Angrybee has sent me a Encyclopedia Brittanica about Tassie so plenty to see, do and eat.

    Hope to find a block of land I like in the Tamar Valley and put a bid on it. Apart from that—a great holiday!

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