Yes, the title is somewhat abstruse – but I, along with other university choristers, sang an interesting work by that name at the 1974 Intervarsity Choral Festival in Adelaide.
Anyway, as it seems to have been Friday forever, I thought it might be appropriate to reflect on last night’s fascinating Q&A, with the aid of ǢRCHIE’S ARCHIVE.
Empirical Discussion of Malcolm Roberts
Some of us have heard Senator-Elect Malcolm Roberts using the word ‘Empirical’ on numerous occasions.
Last night a whole lot more got to hear him use the word many times during the ABC show, Q&A.
Just what does the word mean and why is it at odds with much of what most scientists say and believe?
The Oxford Online Dictionary has the following definition.
So what Roberts is saying is that you cannot predict anything. If you see something happen and cause an outcome then you can explain it but you cannot use that event to conclude that should the same thing happen again that the outcome will be the same.
So scientists should never predict what MAY happen as a result of certain current conditions.
In Malcolm Roberts’ world anything to do with climate change is unprovable and so should be ignored because it relies on another long word.
In the Malcolm Roberts Universe it seems that any extrapolation is badly unscientific. I won’t insult my readers by quoting examples where we extrapolate outcomes from current data every day. In life or death situations which we simply take for granted. Tried crossing a busy street between traffic lately?
Malcolm, your repetitive use of the word ‘Empirical’ does not show you to be a knowledgeable scientist.
I note that your degree is in Engineering. Applied Science. The lesser brother of Theoretical Science. Yes, you can build stuff, you can play with Meccano with impeccable skill. Yet you have not learnt the skills that are Science. You have not developed a theory from repeated and repeatable experiments. You seem to show little understanding of that essential scientific method.
Every scientific theory relies on extrapolation.
A scientific theory is not something dreamed up at 2am by a group of bored people. It is an explanation garnered from empirical evidence discovered through experimentation, extrapolated within the theory to a predictable outcome then discussed, torn to pieces and accepted or rejected on the evidence and on the logic by others who also know the subject. That is what peer review is all about. Yes, theories do change around the edges but once accepted they are surprisingly robust. Even Newton’s three Laws of Thermodynamics still hold despite the tinkering Einstein provided with his theory of relativity.
I’m sorry, Malcolm, you do not convince anyone with any knowledge of science.
You are just a passing thorn in the side of progress.
In tune with the lunar theme thread, a pretty church in Alaska:
Just how many simultaneous positions can he dream up?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/19/labor-accuses-coalition-of-changing-stance-on-racial-discrimination-law
I’ve reached another goal with my wikipedia project this week. That is, I’ve completed putting up the results of all Queensland state elections since 1912. So that’s over 100 years of elections in that state now available to see.
I’m probably not going to go earlier than that until I’ve reached around that point with every other state, as the Queensland electoral system was kind of weird before that (2-member electorates everywhere, the only party was the Labor party, everyone else was a Liberal/Conservative Independent, etc). But still, it feels good to reach that point.
I’ll have to come back and put the by-elections in, but that can wait for the moment.
Breaking news!!!!
Tony Abbott goes to hospital for stitches after surf accident
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-goes-to-hospital-for-stitches-after-surf-accident-20160819-gqwhb0
“was caused by the fin of his surf board”
Pity it wasn’t a shark fin.
Nothing broken!
Damn right!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/19/julia-gillard-attacks-abcs-decision-to-finance-sitcom-at-home-with-julia
Yes, they should all apologise to Julia.
F.M
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/19/whitesplaining-whitesplained-by-first-dog-on-the-moon
Andreas Poffertje – Andrew Bolt, of course.
Ponsonby Huffngrind – James Paterson?
Pancetta Mandibles – Miranda Devine?
At home with the Fizzas?
Upper Crust Gourmet Fizza Bar.
Correction: Upper Crust Gormless Fizza Bar.
A broken clock is right twice a day. But these posts are all over the shop.
Has the ABS had some input?
Do you mean the content, or the ordering?
The latter is probably due to the difference between replying to a post, and posting a reply.
Replies appear nested underneath the parent post – but are still at the top of the “most recent” list.
Thanks Jaeger.
I haven’t used the ‘Reply’ function.
Wentworth Abbey ?
Turnbull gives $5 to homeless guy because he knows what it’s like to be homeless (almost)?
Also the ‘Like’ button could be great for one’s ego!
Fizza and the homeless man.
A PM after a photo op, a homeless man who was not asked if he wanted to be photographed.
‘A little stingy’: Homeless man tells of brush with millionaire Prime Minister
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/a-little-stingy-homeless-man-tells-of-brush-with-millionaire-prime-minister-20160819-gqwwun.html
Scene 1 of the new ABC series “At Home With the Turnbulls” . “Dinner for One Cabinet”
sorry I have not posted much but I am working quite bit and find myself too tired to type at night.
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/08/putin-erdogan-meeting-a-dud-no-common-ground-on-syria.html
Recorded this last Tuesday and just watched it. No wonder he made Malcolm Russell look the fool he is
http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/forces-of-nature-with-brian-cox/ZW0469A003S00
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/08/16/why-iran-allowing-russia-to-use-airbase-has-great-tactical-importance/
When too much is barely enough, it seems
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/19/search-for-mh370-may-be-extended-by-australia-if-funding-can-be-found
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/08/the-wounded-boy-in-orange-seat-another-staged-white-helmets-stunt.html
Puffy,
You aren’t alone. The past fortnight has been peak teaching – seven hours plus masses of preparation plus tutor briefings plus dealing with students . . .
Next week should be a little more peaceful: only one hour teaching, but intensive monitoring of questions about the first assignment, which was released this evening. It’s due Monday week, but as it is somewhat less complex than the first assignment has been for some years, I hope the students will be slightly less needy.
To explain a bit more for anyone interested: in this assignment the students have to write a “Discussion” section for a lab report/journal paper on the basis of a research rationale plus set of hypotheses, a reasonably detailed Method section, a bare-bones Results section with all the graphs and tables they need, and with some basic interpretation.
The Discussion section is ALWAYS the bit where undergraduate students and, indeed many graduate students, fall over in a screaming heap. So, as one of the aims of the subject (apart from introducing students to aspects of atypical cognitive development) is to help them understand how to write to different audiences, it is a useful exercise.
I must say that the students this year are remarkably engaged; far more so than in the last couple of years, so I am hopeful of some . . . well, a bit of . . . real learning happening.
He’s just a Grunt clone
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/aug/19/land-clearing-laws-failure-jeopardises-climate-change-targets-says-minister
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/08/admits-role-deadly-haiti-cholera-outbreak-160819064248187.html
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/aug/18/uncovering-truth-british-empire-caroline-elkins-mau-mau
Interesting read, having read Niall Ferguson’s “Empire”, I was persuaded by some criticism of his writing to read “Britain’s Empire” by Richard Gott. I quickly saw it as a repudiation of Ferguson and was appalled at the extent of brutality and violence that the British employed across the empire, including Australia.
The ‘cannonading’ of People in India being one of the most brutal.
The Belgians and French wer bad but the Brits had their own talents.
Dutton could not bring himself to announce this, he left it to his assistant minister. We can’t have Mr Potato Head looking compassionate, I suppose.
Family with autistic boy granted residency after ministerial intervention
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/family-with-autistic-boy-granted-residency-after-ministerial-intervention-20160819-gqwm0y.html
ejames
Not quite a dud. Turkey busy trying to play one off against another.
“Turkey considering military ties with Russia as NATO shows unwillingness to cooperate – Ankara
In this sense, if Russia were to treat this with interest, we are ready to consider the possibility of cooperation in this sector,” Cavusoglu said when asked about the possibility of working with Russia in the defense sphere………………..Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu has lashed out at NATO, saying the alliance is not fully cooperating with Ankara.
https://www.rt.com/news/356380-turkey-russia-military-nato/
Kaffee,
While Putin will act in a way that reduces any conflict on Russia’s borders, he sees through Erdogan’s bluff. Helmer has assessed the Turkish situation perfectly:
He produces these street displays of public support, and at the same time he distrusts his own military forces so much that he not only purges the general, generals staff, he couldn’t bring a military officer in his delegation to Moscow yesterday. Not one military officer does Mr. Erdogan trust enough to bring to the party in Moscow. Sorry, in St. Petersburg. The chief of the Russian General Staff was there but no Turkish counterpart officer.
But Mr. Erdogan, if he thought he came to Russia to prove that he’s in charge, proved that he’s not even in charge of his own mouth.
eJames,
We are spoiled by BK’s and Leroy’s almost daily links to must-reads, all of which I do read when time permits. However, I must applaud you for your links on international matters, all of which may (most likely will) have a huge effect on all of us.
So, thank you from one of the mods, and please accept The Pub’s Golden Echidna Award.
Hi Fiona,
I will post what I find and not reported in our own MSM but I don’t necessarily agree with all that I may post.
Thank you for the award Fiona, I’d like to thank my wife and fam…….
Were you skewered by an echidna quill?
Be warned!
Thank you for that brilliant Queen/Bowie vid – new to me. For all sorts of reasons I dropped out of the pop/rock scene for pretty much all of the 1980s, so from time to time it’s an interesting voyage of discovery.
Binalong day – 12 hours in and out of the lab – the out of the lab hours spent teaching.
Basketing NOW.
Binalong, great little place near home. Bush ranger Johnny Gilbert is buried there.
eJames
Erdogan is definitely “Under Pressure” and Bad Vlad knows he can play merry with him. There will be a price to pay for killing those Russkiy airmen. A particularly dastardly act as that plane was for ground support only and to prove their bona fides the russkiys let it be known that they would not carry any missiles.
Loved the vid back in the day. Vote 1 Bowie.
And once again a vid that still brings tears to my eyes. LOVE IT.
Parrot learned how to Cat:
http://www.snotr.com/video/17736/Parrot_learned_how_to_cat
Binary scale used in computers:
http://www.snotr.com/video/6602/How_Ancient_Egyptians_Did_Math
Good morning Dawn Patrollers. Enjoy!
Senior police are losing a bit of bark at the Lindt inquiry.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/there-is-a-crisis-of-leadership-in-the-nsw-police-20160818-gqw8f5.html
Mike Seccombe writes at length on how top police failed the siege.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/law-crime/2016/08/20/how-top-ranking-nsw-police-failed-the-lindt-cafe-siege/14716152003634
Michael Gordon analyses what makes Dutton tick.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/duttons-new-gambit-another-form-of-torture-20160819-gqwjaj.html
Michelle Grattan on how Turnbull’s backbench is muscling up. It’s not just Labor that’s going to play hardball she says.
https://theconversation.com/turnbulls-backbench-muscles-up-64188
Paul Bongiorno calls shame on Abbott and his performance over the “Malaysian solution”.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2016/08/20/tony-abbott-and-political-shame-malaysian-solution/14716152003625
The electorate has spoken but it seems Turnbull hasn’t listened.
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/the-electorate-has-spoken-but-turnbulls-ceda-speech-shows-he-hasnt-listened,9374
Stephen Koukoulas on how the latest set of poor economic data is bad news for Australia.
http://thekouk.com/item/396-poor-economic-data-is-bad-news-for-australia.html
Adele Ferguson adds fuel to the fire with respect to the call for a banking Royal Commission.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/us-lawsuit-on-rate-rigging-fuels-royal-commission-calls-20160819-gqwczt.html
The unhealthy influence of hidden political donors.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/unhealthy-influence-of-hidden-political-donors-20160819-gqwlz8.html
Jack Waterford says the jig is up on our outsourced refugee hells in Maunus and Nauru.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/jig-is-up-on-our-outsourced-refugee-hells-in-nauru-manus-island-20160818-gqw599.html
Section 2 . . .
Lenore Taylor says that Dutton has blamed everything else but his rigid policy for what is happening in offshore detention centres. She defends The Guardian against Potato Head’s attack.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/aug/20/dutton-blames-nauru-crisis-on-everything-but-his-rigid-policy
Karen Middleton on the now shifting debate of the argument on refugee policy.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/immigration/2016/08/20/shifting-debate-offshore-detention/14716152003636
Wendy Squires appears to think Malcolm Roberts has a bit of a psychological problem.
http://www.theage.com.au/comment/the-weird-thing-is-malcolm-roberts-seems-to-actually-believe-this-stuff-20160816-gqtpu5.html
Elizabeth Farrelly piles into Lucy Turnbull here.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/the-bizarre-planning-scenario-playing-out-in-sydney-20160818-gqvw6t.html
Has Turnbull kicked sand in Xenophon’s face ove protectionism? Google.
/news/politics/protection-taunt-riles-malcolm-turnbulls-much-needed-senate-ally-nick-xenophon-20160819-gqwcl2
James Massola cheerleads for Turnbull and Bishop. A bit too early in the morning for me to read it all.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/malcolm-turnbulls-chance-to-return-the-shine-to-his-leadership-is-overseas-20160818-gqw6nz.html
Labor accuses Morrison of planning a “humiliating” U-turn on superannuation policy.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/aug/19/labor-accuses-morrison-of-planning-humiliating-u-turn-on-super-reform
Tony Wright ponders over an interesting speech from Andrew Leigh.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/love-and-politics-in-the-same-thought-is-that-even-possible-20160818-gqvjgy.html
The AFR on Turnbull’s endless juggling act. Google.
/news/politics/turnbulls-show-has-become-an-endless-juggling-act-20160818-gqvyuq
A lovely Richard Glover article on our daily charades.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/richard-glover-in-praise-of-our-daily-charades-20160816-gqtjub.html
Julia Gillard finally, and rightfully, lets fly at the ABC over its “At Home with Julia” series.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/19/julia-gillard-attacks-abcs-decision-to-finance-sitcom-at-home-with-julia
Section 3 . . .
This Coles/SDA Union effort is very poor.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace-relations/coles-knew-more-than-half-its-workers-were-underpaid-20160819-gqwk54.html
And as for this mob . . . !!!
http://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace-relations/mamak-fined-almost-300000-for-shortchanging-workers-20160819-gqwocd.html
Richard Ackland on the conservatives’ latest push on 18c. It’s a good one.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/19/the-defence-of-free-speech-is-limited-for-the-anti-18c-brigade
This first person article on an experience on a Sydney bus is uplifting.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/19/racists-arent-welcome-here-how-we-kicked-a-racist-passenger-off-the-bus
Yvette D’Ath moves on the alleged abuse in Queensland youth detention centres.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/alleged-abuse-at-youth-detention-centres-dath-orders-independent-review-20160819-gqwvjp.html
The sound of implosion from the US as Trump’s campaign chairman quits.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/donald-trump-campaign-chairman-paul-manafort-resigns-20160819-gqx4im.html
Section 4 . . . Cartoon Corner
David Rowe takes our leaders to the streets.



Looks like Cathy Wilcox has had a recent experience at Sydney Airport.
Simon Letch and Turnbull’s path forward.
Ron Tandberg uses the Olympics to make a point.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/ron-tandberg-20090910-fixc.html
Alan Moir with an inspired suggestion for the Trump campaign.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/alan-moir-20150921-gjrcxr.html
David Pope is upset about tree clearing in Queensland and discovers how it all came to pass.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/act-news/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0
Andrew Dyson on Hanson’s political quote of the year.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/andrew-dyson-20090819-epqv.html
Mark Knight is inferring that Uber has a distinct advantage over the traditional taxi industry.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/c06201439cf094b5842ce5aefc184fcb
Wacky weather due to global warming again – Melbourne breaks record for hottest August night on Thursday and freezes last evening (well certainly no Neil Diamond)!
An another race meeting due to flooding cancelled today but my horse has a slight virus anyway. I’ll miss the 8 hours driving to Horsham and back.
Melbourne weather might be wacky, but it’s nothing compared to what’s going on in the US.
A huge wildfire in California that has been burning for days and so far has seen 82,000 people evacuated. So intense it is causing ‘firenadoes’.
http://www.wired.com/2016/08/blue-cut-blaze-spawns-insane-firenadoes/
Disastrous floods in Louisiana, some say the worst in the state’s history,
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37121404
And not so bad, but still annoying, it’s been so hot in New York they are having a plague of airborne cockroaches.
Muggy Leads to Buggy in NYC: Giant Cockroaches Take Flight Amid Humid Weather
https://weather.com/science/nature/news/american-cockroaches-taking-flight-amid-new-york-city-heat-wave
Lucy turnbull and Haberfield –
That interview with Wendy Harmer was dreadful. Lucy clearly knows nothing about anything. It adds to my theory about Lucy being in the early stages of Alzheimers, or dementia and also says a lot about the uselessness of the Greater Sydney Commission. As some of us in NSW feared, it’s just window dressing, a commission with no powers and nothing to do.
Mrs Turnbull was so very obviously given her head of the Greater Sydney Commission position because she was once, for about five minutes, Lord Mayor of Sydney, a particularly ineffectual mayor, and because she is the wife of the PM. We were supposed to be impressed by her appointment, so impressed we wouldn’t ask questions about what she or her commission would actually be doing.
Now we know – it’s nothing.
Lucy is just a figurehead, there for decoration, she is not supposed to do anything or know anything except read the odd prepared speech and cut a few ribbons. Baird cabinet wouldn’t care if a woman with a barely functioning brain was given the job, as long as she had the right pedigree. Lucy is not running the show, as media reports claimed when she was appointed, she’s just there for decoration, and the people of NSW are stumping up for her $130,000 a year salary and the millions being poured into this useless commission.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/lucy-turnbulls-sydney-commission-gets-62m-boost-20160618-gpm7zc.html
Lucy, if she is a genuine head of the commission and not just a famous celebrity figurehead, should be across all the detail. She should be able to explain why heritage homes in Haberfield are being demolished. If she can’t manage that she should resign.
Why Lucy Turnbull needs to know what’s happening in Haberfield
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/why-lucy-turnbull-needs-to-know-whats-happening-in-haberfield-20160817-gquoff.html
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/lucy-turnbull-to-sit-on-powerful-cabinet-infrastructure-committee-20160110-gm2q2e.html
Just an extra – The media always tells us Lucy Turnbull ‘stepped down’ from her job as Lord Mayor after less than a year, but that’s not right. Not right at all. Turnbull and her council were sacked by Bob Carr because he wanted to amalgamate two Sydney councils before the March 2004 council elections. Being married to the most litigious man in Sydney obviously inspired Lucy, she called in the lawyers and Sydney City Council threatened legal action and even appealed to the Governor in attempts to save Lucy’s job. It didn’t work.
http://www.abc.net.au/stateline/nsw/content/2003/s1040633.htm
Bob Carr had an agenda involving development and a council amalgamation was part of getting what he wanted. Just the same as Mike Baird and his forced council amalgamations this year. Baird has a development agenda too. Nothing much ever changes in NSW when it comes to corrupt behaviour by governments and councils.
“she’s just there for decoration”
Not exactly an oeuvre d’art …
On the blog, I mean …
Run a raffle – that seems to enthuse the patrons
Yes, sometimes raffles break the silence.
Gigilene,
Lots of us still live here. However, I think we are all feeling pretty flat about things, hence the lack of activity.
Yes, there is something in the air.
Or listen to this lovely piece and watch the flowers:
Earlyopener & Gigilene,
Give me 30 minutes and I will do something about our blues.
It’s OK Fiona some big guns have turned up.
On the subject of raffles, I spoke to a guy last weekend who is hooked up with a group of huge professional punters that play percentages. So professional they have multi-floor offices in high-rise CBD buildings.
Anyway, recently they came across a lottery with a $5M jackpot.
They outlayed $2M and walked away with the jackpot.
Getting a tad weary of the endless war memorials / war ceremonies / war marches..I ask; Can we not let the horror and despair of those wars finally rest in peace and get on with supporting the living?
The Fallen.
A soldier falls at Passchendaele,
A mother weeps at home.
In one hundred years between,
A billion come and gone.
But who will weep for Ginny,
Who will weep for Tom,
A woman beaten dead at home,
A black man’s lost his son.
A billion die in poverty ,
Millions starved or bombed…
A soldier falls at Passchendaele
And the nation’s marching on.
And it’s for this war or it’s that,
Never for a Billy or a Jan.
A soldier falls at Passchendaele
And still we’re marching on.
They’ll always have us marching,
Always fighting on.
For God, King and country,
Poncierres, Ypres or the Somme.
A thousand wars “worth fighting”
And not one lost nor won.
But still the soldier falls forlorn
And a mother weeps at home.
No-one to weep for Madeline?
None to weep for Paul?
For all the beaten, busted souls
A billion, all in all.
Tho’ we march for glory
We march and sing the song .
Marching, marching, bloody marching,
Seeking a glory so long gone.
But who will weep for Angeline,
Who will weep for Sam?
And for the billion lives between ;
Raped-cheated-broken-starved and beated…
Or shall we cry for none?
A soldier falls at Passchendaele,
All our mothers weep alone.
Judge instead the liars brought us here,
And pray; let our world get moving on.
someone please slap this on tee-shirts and posters and plaster it all over the country..
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/aug/20/northern-territory-election-labor-to-reap-benefit-of-chaotic-clp-rule
http://www.ntnews.com.au/lifestyle/nt-law-and-order-6point-wishlist/news-story/617cdcd6318beafb0ececaca7dd2afee
http://qz.com/761656/donald-trumps-bromance-with-vladimir-putin-underscores-an-unsettling-truth-about-the-two-leaders/
http://crookedtimber.org/2016/08/18/donald-trump-is-the-least-of-the-gops-problems/ worth a read if you’re interested in the the long term trends in US politics
http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-syria-hazara-20160810-snap-story.html