Foggy Friday Raffle Evening

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We’ve been having strange weather this week, with heavy fog more like autumn than early spring. Most days the fog has cleared by late morning … but not today … and who did the week’s laundry this morning?

The fog seems to pervading the political scene as well – especially the brains of our Coalition Lords and Masters. Tony Burke’s weekly email is worth a rerun to highlight their sorry condition:

There wouldn’t be many occasions in living memory when a Prime Minister was asked to defend his Treasurer in Question Time and sat silent. That said it all about this Prime Minister who doesn’t want to be near his Treasurer or his Budget. That stood apart from everything else this week.

1. Often in Question Time we talk about how many people are affected by Government policies. On Wednesday Bill Shorten made it about one person, Jacob Floyd. Jacob, who Bill met the day before, is from Bendigo and will be affected by the privatisation of Australian Hearing.
2. Check out this speech from Bill. My favourite part is at 3:18 seconds when Bill talks about the antics of the Government over the five week sitting break.
3. Just before Question Time on Tuesday there was speech after speech from the Labor Caucus hammering the Government’s unfair Budget.
4. Combine the core Labor value of universal healthcare with one of our strongest advocates and you get this speech from Shadow Health Minister Catherine King.
5. Penny Wong is on Facebook. I know this email is meant to be about Parliament, but Penny Wong is finally on Facebook!

1. Joe Hockey arguing with Joe Hockey on Tuesday.
2. Joe Hockey still arguing with Joe Hockey on Wednesday.
3. Joe Hockey was beaten in an argument against Joe Hockey on Thursday. Why can’t Joe Hockey just get along with Joe Hockey?
4. Poor Warren Truss. The Leader of the National Party claimed on Wednesday Labor was holding up funding for local roads. The problem was, Albo had brought on the debate for the funding the day before, only to find the Government voted to oppose their own measure. I’d like to say someone should have told Warren, but he was in the Chamber voting against it himself.
5. On Wednesday Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull released a report on the NBN (written by his former staff). It proved that a slower, less effective NBN will cost less. Thanks Sherlock.

Mind you, I suspect Blood Oaf would have been pleased if his apparently uncontrollable … urges … had been decently shrouded by fog:

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Ho hum – another week, another Liberal bites the dust at New South Wales’s ICAC; Kathy Jackson seems to be looking into that abyss called The End of the Age of Entitlement; JoHo is now officially embattled.

But we wise people at The Pub will gather around the

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with our

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of choice, remembering to order our

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from the amazing CK Watt and to start up the

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In honour of the weather, I present this for your delectation:

329 thoughts on “Foggy Friday Raffle Evening

  1. The Sydney March looks like it had about 10000, estimate of total nationwide about 40000:

    Up to 10,000 protesters have brought Sydney’s CBD to a halt as they marched to protest a range of federal government policies.

    Campaigners rallied in Hyde Park demanding changes to the government’s policies on climate change, education, environmental, health, indigenous rights and immigration.

    The protest shut down the CBD for around 30 minutes as protesters peacefully marched to Sydney Town Hall ….

    It was one of around 30 protests staged across the country over the weekend, with an organisers estimating the overall number of marchers to be around 40,000.

  2. They have at last photographed Schrödinger’s cat .Well a quantum cat. A wonderful demonstration of quantum entanglement and its weirdness.

    These images were generated using a cat stencil and entangled photons. The really spooky part is that the photons used to generate the image never interacted with the stencil, while the photons that illuminated the stencil were never seen by the camera.

  3. foreverjanice

    I agree that Labor should choose its issues carefully. But I don’t agree that it should be swayed by media responses. The media will spin everything. That’s a given.

    Labor spokespersons get plenty of opportunity to make their case in the media. They should be both forthright and articulate, a combination not easy to manage, I’ll admit.

    Weasel words won’t cut it. Plain speaking will, provided a good case is made.

    Shorten can be fine with a set speech. That’s how he got my vote against Albo. But on his feet he tends to “hmm” and “err”. I don’t see any persuasion in three letter words. I don’t see any real passion or belief.

    All those fronts you mention can be bundled up into one thematic unit. Vested interests. But they are the 1%. The people are in the majority and a sharper contrast should be made between the two. The rich and the rest if you like.

    Most of the intellectual heavyweights are on the side of the people: ethics, philosophy, Keynesian economists. The rich have Judith Sloan, their priests and their generals.

    Why aren’t we convincing the people. Could it be that our spokepersons mumble?

  4. The first report is an AAP wire one, the second is the HS’s own, which is just about Melbourne..

    Protesters hit the streets for March in August
    4:26pm AAP
    Thousands have brought Sydney’s CBD to a halt as they vented their anger towards Tony Abbott, the federal government and a range of coalition policies.

    Up to 10,000 protesters have brought Sydney’s CBD to a halt as they marched to protest a range of federal government policies.

    Campaigners rallied in Hyde Park demanding changes to the government’s policies on climate change, education, environmental, health, indigenous rights and immigration.

    Police estimate 5000 protesters rally against federal Coalition policies in CBD march
    August 31, 2014 3:32PM
    Samantha Landy
    Herald Sun

    CRIES of “shame, Abbott, shame” rang through Melbourne’s CBD today as thousands of people marched through the streets in protest of the Federal Government’s policies.

    Police estimated up to 5000 people had flocked to the State Library of Victoria at 1pm for “March Australia” before marching down Swanston and Bourke Sts to Parliament where they heard several speakers, including human rights lawyer Julian Burnside.

    The issues being protested — among them the Abbott Government’s stance on asylum seekers, the environment, welfare, education, foreign aid, women’s issues and the tax system — were as diverse as the marchers themselves, with primary-school aged children through to pensioners walking side-by-side.


  6. We are already living in a science fiction future

    The future is going to be what we make it. It can be the Star Trek utopia or a Mad Max wreck, a creative playground or an Orwellian nightmare. That is why we need people with good values and ethics leading the way. We need people who care about enriching humanity rather than just themselves. We need people who can lead by example and bring along those behind them; who give back to the world and make it a better place.

  7. I’m pissed off with Labor right now on three issues. So pissed off that if I were a party member I’d resign.

    First – The War and terrorism. I do not like seeing Shorten agreeing with Abbott so readily. I don’t want fire and brimstone, but I do want a bit more than ‘us too’.

    Second – Sue Lines. The other day Senator Sue Lines quite rightly said Abbott was using terrorism as a distraction from the budget. Instead of supporting her Shorten ‘counselled’ her and Kim Carr, who made similar comments. I suppose ‘counselled’ is a polite way of saying ‘slapped them down’.

    Second – asylum seekers. I was disgusted with the way both Julia Gillard and then Kevin Rudd rushed to out-nasty the Liberals on this. I understand the need to deter people from hopping onto boats and I understand the need for off-shore processing, I’m actually in favour of it – BUT – only for the shortest possible time, for health checks, immunisations, whatever. Then all asylum seekers should be moved to the mainland and allowed to live in the community while the rest of the processing is done. To hell with this horrible, Labor-initiated ‘anyone who arrives by boat will never be settled here’ rubbish. No-one should be locked up for years in some hell-hole tent city. Why not put more money into processing people in Indonesia so there is no need for the damn boats?

    All Labor has to do is say ‘we want to be more compassionate so we are changing our policies to…..’ There are a lot of votes to be won with such a response. Swinging voters can be won over, the red-neck ‘blow the boats out of the water’ mob are never going to vote anything but Coalition and are not worth pandering to.

    Right now a group of people are walking in silence to Canberra in protest at the way we treat asylum seekers. They asked Bill Shorten and Tony Abbott to meet with them when they arrive. Both men declined. Labor is giving them Richard Marles instead. Marles would be one of the most useless clods on Labor’s front bench. Shorten should have agreed to this meeting and gone along with Marles. It would have been a well-received move and would have won a lot of goodwill. But no, he has refused. Big mistake.

    I’m not interested in voting for a party that seems to be turning itself into Liberal Lite. I assumed I’d vote Labor next election, but if there is much more of this lily-livered ‘me too, we agree’ rubbish then I’ll be looking for an independent, again. I can see the Greens vote increasing if Labor persists with its cowardly silence on the government’s treatment of asylum seekers. For God’s sake Bill, say something critical. Be brave. Admit the current system is diabolical and change Labor’s policy.

  8. Dedalus,
    Can’t agree with you re Shorten. You want ‘fire and brimstone’ from Shorten which will do nought for anyone. The media would simply nitpick through the words so that what Shorten says and what they ‘report’ would be very different. Both the abbott camp and the media are, I suspect, a bit frustrated that Shorten is not presenting a target they can use to take the focus off the govt ‘s incompetence and their lousy budget.

    I take the view that Labor are currently in the position where they must not waste their bullets, pick their fights carefully and hold their fire until they see the whites of their eyes. Labor are fighting on more than one front, i.e the coalition, the media, the IPA and the big mining companies etc.

    Exactly right

  9. Hi Every-one,
    Well I have finally made it here. Seems some-one let the at out of the bag & it went off lickety split, to tell all in sundry, that today, is in deed, the day of my birth, or more simply put my Birthday & I’ve been flat out like a lizard drinking since I got out of bed this morning & why is that I hear yas ask?

    Well it’s because Gravel & Hunter gave me a cordless set of hedge/lawn clippers, charged & ready to go, for my birthday, so I thanked them &, I went a clipping.
    There wasn’t a breathe of wind but I saw the lawn shiver when it saw me reach for the trigger that would soon bring this little beasty to life, in readiness to give this lawn, a no1 haircut that any true blue Anzac would be proud to wear or as it turned out a -3 or 4 that, a dog with mange, may well relate to but, I had a lot of fun getting it to look like that.
    I had to stop because I flattened the battery, which in itself was quite timely, as I was due to go out for lunch at 12.30 & needed to clean up & get ready to go .
    Gravel threw the battery on the charger while I washed & wore. We were ready, & Hunter was peed off as he wasn’t coming. We said our good-byes & off to the local for lunch with the kids & grand kids. We said our hellos then they gave me a lovely card & a nice variety of pig face plants for the garden. I don’t have any so I am looking forward to seeing how these go. I had no idea there were so may types.

    I pigged out something chronic on a huge steak sandwich & chips, followed by a piece, of what I would have to say, was the best mud cake, I have ever had, with a lit candle on top & ice-cream on the side, compliments of the publican. I was already full as a goog but, how could I refuse, so I didn’t & I was truly rewarded for my decision…..Yuuuuumeeeee.

    All of us now had that, oooooooh god, I ate way too much, look about us as we spoke of what we should do when we got home, but probably wouldn’t then said our good byes after having had a really nice birthday afternoon. H

    Now I am here, actually I have been here for about 3 hours, speed typing is not my thing but, I am hoping you all receive this before my next birthday. I want to thank you for your birthday wishes. I would like to reply to you all but my typing speed being what it is, I may well be dead, before I get to your name, so I think this way is best….don’t you? 😉

    Thank-you All

  10. Leone,

    I understand your frustration. Our principles surely have to be based on sound ethics, and locking up people in offshore hell holes is far from ethical.

    Our lives are short enough and we may as well stand for right against wrong even if it’s only for the sheer enjoyment of it. Bugger the bastards! Let the bloody liberals win the next election if so be it.

    Of course this dire outcome only assumes our party leaders haven’t the cojones to put it up the tories where it hurts the most. So in the unlikely event that Bill is reading this, I say: plain speaking and damn the torpedoes.

    Hawkie told Carleton he was an impertinent pup. Pup Palmer just walks out of pressers when it doesn’t suit him, and laughs at the others. Milne bins tory brochures.

    Fine roles models in their way! Despite their faults.

    We need a great orator to emerge for the people. A Lincoln. A Kennedy. Toadying to the media, recycling cliches and homilies, umming and erring – these are for politicians.

  11. All the points made about Shorten/Labor strategy are valid. Having said that though, I still think that Labor is hamstrung somewhat by their large election defeat which came about by events we all know about, which left a huge scar of mistrust that the abbott, the media and the Rudd forces instilled in the voters.

    At this stage in the electoral cycle, the incompetence, downright arrogance and the abbott government’s mean, nasty agenda, are opening eyes but it is going to take awhile before voters are convinced they were conned into believing the Labor Government was bad and incompetent and stood for nothing.The abbott and the media made so much noise and poured out so much hate for four years that people wanted only peace and quiet. It is for this reason that I feel Shorten and Labor are doing the right thing in treading quietly and using reason rather than being loudly angry – time enough for that during the election campaign after people have had a gut full of the abbott and his motley crew.

  12. About the Basics Card –
    From the first time this idiot idea was mentioned it has been obvious there would be many creative ways to get around it. The easiest – do the shopping for someone else, pay with the card, get the money back in cash.

    Why can’t people on welfare buy alcohol or tobacco? We pay Joe Hockey’s salary, he uses some of it to buy cigars. Should he be given a Basics Card because he is wasting taxpayers money? We know Abbott likes a drink or six – remember when he missed the vote on the stimulus program because he was passed out in his office, drunk after too much wine at dinner? Should Abbott have a Basics Card to stop his alcohol habit?

    As for helping people budget – rubbish! Charities like Vinnies have offered help on this for years and it works.Why not just refer people to them?

  13. I have no problem with Labor treading quietly and using reason, I just want the party to be different to the government. It’s possible to talk about differences and raise new ideas without any fire and brimstone involved.

    The numbers for today’s marches were down on last time. This offers some interesting reasons, given by those involved.


  15. Puffy

    Now that’s a cake! I can’t wait to get my laughing gear around a piece of it. My taste buds are going to dance the night away, me thinks.

    Hey there is plenty here, so if any other Pubsters would like a piece, please do help yourselves 😉

  16. leonetwo,

    I assumed I’d vote Labor next election, but if there is much more of this lily-livered ‘me too, we agree’ rubbish then I’ll be looking for an independent, again. I can see the Greens vote increasing if Labor persists with its cowardly silence on the government’s treatment of asylum seekers.

    Blimey! One vote for one Independent! That’s really going to change the status quo, isn’t it.

    Getting all emotional and striking out blindly against the only political party that has any chance of achieving any sort of change to the status quo that more broadly fits your preferred opinion of what should be in the best interests of asylum seekers (and most probably that of the likes of many of us here at the Pub & PB) isn’t likely to change anything, is it?

    I would have thought that leaving out emotional negativism and focusing on what might be more useful as far as being of use in changing the political direction might be a more useful direction to pursue!

    Just my humble opinion, of course!

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