The Sacking of the CES: An Insider’s Story

Another of Gorgeous Dunny’s excellent memoirs (written in 1998, but under the current mob, highly relevant) – as always, many thanks, GD.

Patrons might like to know a little more about the author, so with his permission …

Gorgeous Dunny’s earlier career was in tourist industry marketing in Sydney. After completing a Bachelor of Arts degree in 1982, he was unemployed for some time in Adelaide during the 1982-83 recession before joining the CES network in late 1984.

In 1987 he was appointed CES Employment Counsellor for Warrnambool and the Western Victoria district. Most of his work was in that role and as a Case Manager and Disability Jobseeker Adviser. He departed with a voluntary redundancy when the CES closed on 30th April 1998.

He was regarded as innovative in the successful application of CES Labour Market Programs to assist in the rehabilitation, preparation and entry into the workforce of people with severe disabilities. He formed a close liaison with Western District Employment Access who were responsible for disability training and placements in that region. A result was a continuing high number of successful placements in employment.

 

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During the 1996 election campaign, Dr Kemp promised that a coalition government would retain the CES labour market programs that were currently in place. The announcement startled the then Employment Minister, Mr Crean, who remarked that Dr Kemp had spent the previous two years bagging those very same programs he was now supporting. It did not occur to Crean (or to anyone else) that Kemp was lying, or that the coalition had no intention of honouring that promise.

The problem of Dr Kemp’s credibility was bypassed by appointing Senator Vanstone as Employment Minister. According to a DEETYA National Office heavy who visited the CES Area/Network management staff just after the 1996 Budget, Vanstone announced she wanted to get rid of the CES only a week after coming to office. He claimed that National Office staff had fought a rearguard action to salvage the CES, but had only delayed the inevitable this long. On the other hand, DEETYA National Office management had shown little commitment to the CES network, and he might have been lying as a means of damage control amongst shocked and angry CES staff.

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Whether it was the coalition’s doing, DEETYA management or (more likely) both, the CES/Area management and staff were kept in the dark until the 1996 Budget announcements. Having been subjected to two rounds of savage CES network staff cuts and voluntary redundancies in just over two years, they were assured in July 1996 by then Secretary Sandy Hollway that no more cuts were necessary. The proposed corporatisation of Employment Assistance Australia (CES Case Management) and the CES Employer Services sections into a placement service then known as PEPE (later to become Employment National) was just one of the 1996 Budget Paper concerns. The CES Jobseeker Registration functions were to move to DSS, creating a new one-stop service, ultimately to be known as Centrelink. There was to be a competitive situation not just for case management (as was introduced by the previous government) but for employment placement services. It was to be paid for by “cashing in” (i.e. abandoning) labour market programs and using a fraction of those funds to pay results-based “incentives” to placement agencies.

Thus, at one stroke the Government had heralded the end of the CES and of labour market programs while allowing the Treasurer a big saving towards filling the alleged “black hole”. Very few outside the bureaucratic and political circles of Canberra and their media and lobbyist hangers-on realised the extent of the revolution proposed. Some community groups dealing with the unemployed did, but many of these were tempted by the opportunity to bid for these services, confident that they’d do as well as or better than the CES. With some severely disadvantaged social groupings in case management this was true. So they were mostly silent.

Bishop Michael Challen, of the Brotherhood of St Laurence, wrote an excellent criticism of this proposed system in The Age. But he was almost a lone voice and was ignored by its advocates. CPSU criticisms were dismissed as self-interest. The Skillshare community organisations providing jobseeker preparatory services throughout the nation, had almost as much to lose as the CES, but were muted. Possibly they feared that public criticism might damage their chances of getting a contract. (In the event, they mostly missed out on contracts. That finally fired comment on the loss to the community. By then, 18 months afterwards, it was a bit late. Such criticism was fobbed off as “sour grapes”.)

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The extent of the revolution might also have been disguised by the fact that the same Budget contained many long overdue rationalisations to most Labour Market Programs (LMPs) making them simpler to interpret and administer. There had been some cutbacks and rule-tightening (particularly for Jobtrain, now known as TEP), but LMPs generally escaped relatively unscathed for that period. The changes were a result of several years’ negotiation to try and make sense of a range of overlapping programs and services. It had required the breaking up of enclaves in Canberra and commitment to common goals. Although unrelated to the change of government, Senator Vanstone was smart enough to seize upon the previous inefficiencies (that were, of course, “… the fault of the previous government”) which had been overcome by the current government.

On the original Budget projections, the new LMPs would only survive 14 months. (Ultimately, it was 18 months because of legislative delays in introducing the new system.) It seemed a lot of cost and trouble for programs that were doomed.

During 1996 and 1997 a complicated new mainframe and LAN/PC system called Integrated Employment System was progressively introduced. In addition to rewriting the previous Jobsystem mainframe computer system (arguably one of the best employment network systems in the world), the plan was to integrate that with Jobseeker Touchscreens, LAN PC/Internet systems and PASS (the LMP payments system).

It seems that more than just CES network and Area staff and management had been kept in the dark on the dismantling of the department. Millions of dollars and hours must have been invested in both the Information Technology (IT) and Labour Market Program changes. The Government could have saved a lot by calling these changes off quickly after coming to office. Some were probably contractual arrangements inherited from the previous government, but a more honest open policy might have saved plenty.

As it was, there were some comical effects. Vanstone overplayed her hand in bagging the previous government’s efforts. To paraphrase her, nearly all LMPs were a waste of time and money, except the Jobstart wage subsidy. She was severe on results from brokered job creation schemes such as Jobskills, New Work Opportunities and LEAP compared with the higher employment retention rate in Jobstart placements.
But it was like comparing row-boats with bicycles. Job creation schemes were for people who were 3-5 years + unemployed and not job-ready. The programs were essentially to make them job-ready. Jobstart placements were mostly filled by people 6-12 months + unemployed, and work-ready.

Shortly after, she was forced to introduce her own version of job creation with Special Employment Support (SES). According to Vanstone that was going to lead to “real jobs” (a favourite government cliché). It didn’t. It led to a lot of frantic CES efforts (plus fiddling and arranging waivers) even to get a quota of suitable referrals in the time allowed. The only difference was that it was more statistically honest than Labor’s schemes because it did not remove trainees from the unemployment lists while they were on the program.

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Job creation programs attract a lot of criticism from small business, the New Right and Treasury officials. Usually it is along the lines that they are “not real jobs”, are temporary, costly and serve no useful purpose. Statistics like Vanstone wheeled out are produced to support that view. But, as mentioned above, they are basically personal development programs. Their works are focused on environmental and recreational infrastructure. I live in Warrnambool where the Lake Pertobe Recreational Park was developed under just such a program 20 years ago. In its value as a community recreation and picnic area and as a major facility for tourists, the Lake Pertobe project would have paid for itself 10 times over. So I remain sceptical when people start saying such schemes are a waste of time and money. Talkback Radio pandering like Work for the Dole is comfortable for most people to support, and may be useful. But the costlier job creation programs at least address the issues of social alienation, which are a large part of long-term unemployed people’s concerns. They should also be the community’s concerns.

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Jobtrain was also panned by Vanstone but on inconclusive research data, which failed to consider the time lag for trainees in getting into permanent employment; or the fact that many former Jobtrain graduates got their start in employment by linking with the Jobstart wage subsidy. Training for Employment Program (TEP) tightened up approvals for training. You virtually needed an offer of work to be approved for TEP. In addition, allowable training time was halved so that only courses of 26 weeks or less could be approved. Partly, that was to encourage more people to use Austudy, which was much cheaper for the government with students having to find their own fees, books and equipment costs. But it had a detrimental effect on training approvals. The most vocationally relevant courses in our district are electronics and hospitality. Courses are usually of 40+ weeks, and there are heavy costs for equipment, particularly for long term unemployed.

By late January 1997 hardly any money had been spent on Labour Market Programs (LMPs). It was not surprising given the tighter guidelines and the Minister’s public contempt for their value.

But, perhaps feeling the heat from nervous MPs, Vanstone cracked a big tantrum before Area Managers about the lack of spending. She accused the CES staff of deliberately not approving LMPs as revenge for her decision to trash them. Managers were unable to convince her of the tighter guidelines being the problem (and I am sure they were too diplomatic to mention that her attitude to LMPs might have slowed down enthusiasm for approving them). So they came away with urgent riding instructions to the network to adopt a more ‘flexible’ approach to approvals and to develop plans for approving more people on courses. So desperate was the appeal for action that it was some days before the network was told that the guidelines (especially the 26-week limit) would not be changed. By then a bag of eligible trainees had been offered assistance on courses that were not eligible. Waivers had to be arranged.

There were similar somersaults with IT software and hardware. Probably the contract with IBM for the supply of Touchscreens and PCs had been signed and budgeted for before the change of government. Whenever it was, it was long before the decision to dismantle the CES and LMPs became known. Consequently, there was Government panic and indecision about what to do when the thousands of PCs supplied by IBM arrived for the network. Was it worthwhile paying for the software to make them useable? Would they look silly giving the CES all this costly gear just before getting rid of them? Should they look around for another buyer? Meanwhile, the PCs, fully paid for, sat in storage for several months while these points were pondered. Finally they relented and distributed the PCs to the CES network with software. I was one of the recipients, using them for 9 months before exiting with the CES closure on 30th April 1998.

The only anecdotal hint I heard of our fate was about July 1996. This was that an unseated Liberal was given a job on Vanstone’s staff. His task was to visit CES Areas and Regions, find out just what they did, and report it to the Minister. He confided to a CES manager that the investigation was a revelation to him. He had had no idea how skilled, versatile and service-oriented the CES staff were, nor how integrated they were with local communities and businesses for economic development and employment. He was submitting a report reflecting that and urging the retention of the CES services. But he advised that it would make no difference, because the Government had made up its mind long ago, and no new evidence would change it.

The view held by the coalition party members (including this ex-MP until then) and the bureaucracies in Canberra was that DEETYA was a huge bureaucracy chewing up enormous sums of taxpayers funds for little or no visible return. The unemployment rate was still too high after many years of heavy funding. If they couldn’t do anything about that, what was the use of them? It was a convenient argument (avoiding the role of economic policy) which the Government spread to selective, sympathetic columnists once the revolution was announced. Even P.P. McGuinness, not normally noted for intellectual shallowness, echoed that line.

Before analysing the new employment directions, that sophistry must be dismissed. The CES network was an aggregation of labour market exchanges throughout the country. It facilitated supply and demand in the job market and provided intelligence. It was no more responsible for unemployment than stock exchanges are for falls in investment, or the Weather Bureau for rainfall. A range of variables may contribute to unemployment – from seasons and harvests, overseas conditions and terms of trade, industry restructuring, economic policy, industry policies, investment, government spending, to individual access and skill levels.

CES/DEETYA was not responsible for these, but it had a role in identifying them and developing strategies to minimise possible damage from these variables. Labour Market Programs were aimed at alleviating some harm done in restructuring, and in overcoming the barriers to people seriously disadvantaged in the open job market such as people with disabilities, aborigines, migrants, long term unemployed, sole parents and so on. Whatever the effectiveness of the programs, nobody seriously suggested that they’d be able to change the rate of unemployed.

DEETYA was not well regarded by the Canberra bureaucracies, who considered it poorly managed. Some years ago, plans to merge it with the better-regarded DSS were later quashed by the Labor government. In addition, DEETYA and the CES were ideological misfits. An ideological puritanism has dominated Treasury, Finance and most economic departments depending on them for the past decade. One of the strands was a belief in the virtues of competition and the sanctity of the marketplace. A further one, articulated by Des Moore, was that governments should stay out of economic activity as much as possible, except possibly to encourage competition. According to Moore, governments inevitably got it wrong. On the rare occasions when they might be right, their timing was wrong. So they’d be better off doing nothing. (Our industry and trade policies seem based on that reasoning.)

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Yet here was the CES/DEETYA, a government quasi-monopoly in the middle of the marketplace actively seeking to manipulate market aberrations. Basically, the department, the network and labour market programs were incompatible with the prevailing orthodoxies. So when the coalition mentioned their desire to get rid of the CES, it would have been received with enthusiasm. The only questions were likely to be on the timing and the rationale for that decision. The politics and publicity remained sensitive. Our Regional Manager was reprimanded and gagged for making a public (and truthful) comment in 1997 that the CES was finished. The local liberal MP hastily issued a press release that it was not finished, just reshaping and improving. Well, there was no panic – so it might have fooled a few.

But it is still hard to make sense of this strategy, especially the most spectacular action in job brokerage of destroying the entire CES labour exchange network across the nation and replacing it with a fragmented contracted placement agency system.

It is scandalous that 50 years of accumulated labour market expertise and regional knowledge should be just thrown away. It would have made more sense to sell off the whole network to Drakes than to let it just disintegrate in the manner it has. Could anyone seriously imagine a decision to subject the Sydney Stock Exchange to competition, with rival exchanges at North Sydney, Brookvale, Parramatta and Cronulla each guaranteed a certain share? Yet that is essentially what Job Network will be doing. You may be able to trace any job in Australia if the touch screens and computer systems are working, but you will see each vacancy broker separately if you find suitable jobs. Information is held discretely only on the broker’s own vacancies. You cannot go to one single referral point for all vacancies. Nor can employers access the entire range of jobseekers available for work.

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Agencies receive some payments for getting and filling vacancies, but their main revenue will come from placing unemployed people on benefits in jobs for 3 months or longer. That should force them to focus on getting people off benefits into jobs, which is the government’s endgame. At least agencies will focus on those on benefits, so shouldn’t that help? It should help by having the agent ask, “Have I got the right person, on benefits, for the job?” rather than, “Can I find the right person for this job?” There is a subtle change here from the old system. Instead of an incentive going to an employer to take a longer term unemployed off benefits, it now goes to the placing agency and can occur with shorter term unemployed. Whether the agency has to split some of this with the employer remains to be seen. My concern as an old-style public servant is that there are possibilities for bribery and corruption, which were precluded from the regulations-driven system applying before.

A greater concern is that certain labour market sections will be excluded from placement assistance. Employed people seeking improved positions, students seeking after hours or vacation work and unemployed spouses in 2-income families are all unable to claim benefits. Therefore, an agency will receive no payments for placing or providing assistance to these jobseekers apart from a possible placement commission from an employer. Can Job Network thus represent the whole range of the labour market in the manner that the CES had?

It has been suggested that agencies may still help place these people to retain credibility with employers. The supply of vacancies (along with the ability to fill them quickly and reliably) will remain the most critical factor in the viability of most agency businesses. [If there is a sustainable criticism of the CES, it is the neglect of this sector from 1992-1994. It was forced by DEET and government decisions. Recovery efforts were later made with fair success.] However, it is likely that this group will have to pay a registration fee to list with an agency – an imposition not forced on those receiving benefits. It is not clear how harvest and seasonal workers not receiving benefits will fare under this system. Nor, for that matter whether growers (already squeezed by liberalised trade policies) will have their vacancies serviced without cost as they were in the past. The system is geared only to assisting people on unemployment benefits into work.

It is unclear if people on other benefits such as Disability Pension or Supporting Parents benefits will be able to receive the same placement assistance. Under the previous system they would have been entitled to labour market program assistance at the equivalent of at least Flex 3 (intensive). The 1996 Budget Paper briefing suggested that Disability placement assistance would pass to Centrelink. Up to March 1998, Centrelink staff had not been informed if any program assistance, such as the Work Experience for People with Disabilities placement program, would continue. It is similar with the Modifications to the Workplace Program. Let us hope that they remain or are rejuvenated in some form.

Miraculously, the Disabled Apprentice Wage Subsidy (DAWS) program has survived against all predictions. It is one of the oldest and most successful LMPs, enabling people with disabilities to obtain trade skills, thus becoming competitive and independent in the job market. Survival is most likely linked to it being grouped with entry-level training programs, which the government left intact. While it remains we can hope for some compassion in the job market. But not so with Training for Aboriginals Program (TAP). That original training wage subsidy scheme has gone.

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One of the virtues of our national community organisations is that they attempt to provide an equitable service throughout the nation, no matter how isolated or how poor. In turn, they reflect the diversity of the various regions and people in this country and help meld them into an Australian character. Such has been the history of the old Post Master-General’s Department (later to spawn Telecom/Telstra and Australia Post), the ABC broadcasting service and the CES. The CES had a lower general profile than the others, but was ubiquitous for those in the labour market, economic development or seeking to enter. But just as the service itself has gone, so has the commitment to community and equity.

Paul Pickering, (The Age 19/3/98), has pointed out that in metropolitan Melbourne the balance of Flex 2 (jobseeker preparation) and Flex 3 (intensive assistance) service outlets is tilted heavily in favour of the wealthier eastern and southern suburbs at the expense of the outer northern and western suburbs, despite the latter having unemployment rates 50% higher than in the chosen areas. Country regions have fared no better. Portland, Victoria is more than just a whistlestop with over 10,000 people and one of Australia’s most productive ports. Yet there is now no public employment placement service. Nearby Hamilton has hardly fared better with just one (visiting) person part-time. Ingham in Queensland has no service, not even Centrelink. No doubt there are similar stories across the nation.

The time is long due for National and provincial Liberal MPs to stop swallowing the propaganda from their whips and have a good hard look around their electorates. Loss of all these rural and regional CES outlets will be costly and demoralising for small country employers and jobseekers.

The 1 300 phone numbers are not an effective substitute. The effect on rural economies of the CES job losses will be just as damaging. And it’s following a pattern of reduced public services starting with Tax Office closures and continuing with Medicare. State services in schools, railways and hospitals have been similarly wound back. Even Centrelink is under instructions to reduce staff within two years irrespective of demand. Some Queensland Nationals drew the line at supporting further selling-off of Telstra. They rightly inferred that remote communities must miss out in a market-dominated organisation. They should spread their concerns to other public services.

The new system abolishes the notions of fairness and equity to remote and thinly populated communities and to the poor. And to those having no or redundant employment skills or history, disabilities, aboriginal ancestry, language or literacy problems, social or cultural alienation, mobility or access difficulties, or simply on pensions seeking additional work and income: things are much worse. It represents the breakdown of social and community responsibility. I speak authoritatively here, having successfully aided employment entry or re-entry for many people from those backgrounds for the past 10 years. Not since the loaves and fishes days has anyone achieved more output with less input. Yet this Government would pretend that Job Network can do just that.

The Client Classification Level (CCL), on which case management incentives were paid, was a joke amongst those with client services and labour market knowledge. The assumption that you can measure somebody’s level of disadvantage from the way he/she may answer a series of boxed and categorised questions was always suspect. It assumes that people will understand questionnaires and the purpose of the questions, that they will understand the wording of several questions (which were ambiguous even to literate people), that they will answer them honestly, and that they will answer as it affects them rather than as they think the questioner might want to hear. The first version gave no weighting to access to the labour market, nor the appropriateness of particular skills or work experience to that market.

For example, a client in my caseload, aged 45, lived 20 km out of Terang (itself a small dairy industry township) with no transport or driving licence and no farm or rural skills. Simply put, he could not get work. Yet the CCL listed him as a ‘2’ (levels were 1 to 4 then) suggesting he was more or less work-ready with some problems. I gained greater knowledge of these sorts of abominations through managing the SES program in our region.

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One client, 8 years unemployed and never having had any paid work, was classified as a ‘1’, which is work-ready. The reason apparently was that she was continually doing voluntary work and courses, which probably gave her extra points in the scale (but it made no difference to her employability).

After much argument and negotiation, I managed to get her reclassified as a ‘3’ so that she could be referred to the SES program. Even then (with her wage paid by the program) the broker could not persuade any employer to take her. After experiences like that I surveyed my entire caseload (then about 140). My estimate of the error rate (people incorrectly classified regarding employability) was 40%, which I reported at the time.

My feeling was that if this was the foundation for the new payment system, then the whole thing was a house of cards. A revised CCL appeared soon after that (with just A and B levels) and this took into account some of the things mentioned. I understand that it is now in its third incarnation and known as Jobseeker Classification Level (JCL). It is the basis of Flex 3 payments. Apparently, there’s 3.1 (job-ready), 3.2 (near job-ready) and 3.3 (review). The maximum payment for 3.3 placement (in employment for 6 months) is $9000. The other two are considerably less. Under the old system the Jobstart wage subsidy for relatively work-ready clients was from $2000 to $4000. The time cost in case managing a client is likely to be $1000+. The new system is not going to leave much to offer employers for a 3.1 or 3.2.

On the other hand, 3.3 clients are going to need a lot of time, preparatory training and possibly vocational/skills training. Considering the cost of programs in the past, it is hard to see this managed on $9000 while still allowing a margin for the agency costs and commissions. The best chance of profit is a constant turnover of 3.1 and 3.2 cases. That is why I wanted no part in it.

I found the whole thing morally repulsive: that issues of human services could be solved simply by offering dollar incentives to ambitious agencies. Is there a place for empathy? Only, it seems, if you can use it as a tool to shift the person. So I opted out. (This is not intended as a criticism of community-based tenderers such as the Salvation Army and the Brotherhood of St Laurence who have an ethical commitment and proven record with the most disadvantaged. Unfortunately, they seemed to be treated as peripheral in the awarding of tenders.)

Many others, from CES management to operational staff, worked very hard over the next 18 months at trying to make themselves ‘competitive’. That was difficult because the priorities and signals from senior management seemed to change weekly. The assumption was that their knowledge and experience was generally better than most of their competitors. Therefore, they thought they’d win the largest share of the market. Although competing tenderers knew their position by March, this information was held back from CES/EN staff. Judging by the dreadful final staffing figures for Employment National, the business given EN could only be about half or less of what the CES had had before. Either that or it has been given insufficient staff to ensure failure.

With very little time left to prepare for an alternative career, hopeful CES staff were informed of their lot with an e-mail message document tactfully entitled, ‘Unsuccessful Letter’.

It is not clear if an arbitrary decision was made to give CES/EN a certain maximum percentage of the business. It may well be that they were just considered along with all the other tenders. Dr Kemp (now in charge of the Employment Ministry after Senator Vanstone had done most of the dirty work) has made public assurances of the integrity of the tendering process. We can hope that they are more reliable than his pre-election assurances were. But there is reason to query the prudence of tender selections, and not just because some dodgy operators got contracts.

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Leaving aside the decision to pension off so many CES staff with their diverse labour market experience, it seems that most decisions were based on price mechanism. Why else would proven organisations like the Brotherhood of St Laurence (in some places) and 2nd Chance miss out, while others with no experience or expertise get contracts? And why offer Queensland firms work in Geelong that they haven’t bid for and vice versa. Didn’t the awarders place any value on knowledge of local labour markets? In our district, a successful disability placement agency tendered only for niche Flex 3 business (which is the nearest to their special expertise in the labour market). They won a tender for … Flex 1 (employment placement job-ready) business, for which they’d had no experience and which was only secondary to their bid. The tendering process was a big project, in uncharted areas, within a tight timeframe and political agenda. But on the evidence we have seen so far, it may be the biggest fiasco since the Pay-TV tenders.

Like many other large organisations, the CES had its good, bad and ugly. It had a high share of brilliant dedicated people, as well as eccentrics and mediocrities. It always achieved more than it was credited with, even by DEET National Office managers. When Traineeships were introduced, marketing sections in state offices were given the promotional task because it was felt the “CES wouldn’t be up to it”. The marketing failed, until it was handed over to the CES networks with instructions to make it work.

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There are similar stories regarding Work Information Centre resources and schools/careers teacher liaison. Gossip from Centrelink was that managers were amazed that the CES network could manage Austudy inquiries with such meagre staffing resource allocations. More far-sighted Centrelink managers, adapting to a new client-centered service culture, have grabbed any CES staff on offer, even when it meant overstaffing.

One of my favourite memories was a pompous Canberra report on the CES beginning, “Network staff are under the illusion that they are there to serve the public…” It was a nice illusion. With the CES gone, the coming months will show how valuable it was in the community. Let us hope Centrelink may in time fill the gap.

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587 thoughts on “The Sacking of the CES: An Insider’s Story

  1. Time for this decision to be assessed, along with the GST. Maybe someone out there can tell us of the success they have had with what replaced the CES. Have not been able to find anyone yet.

  2. In a similar vein to Gorgeous Dunny’s excellent piece:

    Over this Easter week-end, 2 Queensland women have been murdered brining the total to 5 women murdered in Queensland alone during the past month.http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/police-investigate-murder-of-woman-26-at-bingil-bay-and-stabbing-death-of-woman-27-at-woree/story-fnihsrf2-1226890348192

    I think of that saying “ if you are not outraged by this, you are not paying attention”.

    It doesn’t matter how those women voted, their political leaning or if they called themselves a feminist. What does matter is that they were all killed by men, some of whom they were in an intimate relationships with. All but one of them were young women in their 20’s. More women who have died in the War on Women.

    As a woman this outrages me. This is the face of patriarchy.

    http://bettsie.wordpress.com/2014/04/21/im-all-right-jill-or-stuff-the-sisterhood/

  3. Fiona

    Add to that four foreign students have been murdered in Qld in the last few months and one really must wonder WTF is going on up there ? The Mad Monk called a royal commission over four deaths in Qld. ( Pink Batts) how about one for these deaths over an even shorter time frame !.

  4. And it won’t be a softie like Verandah handing out the bon bons; it’ll be Chuckles Andrews.

  5. GD

    Great piece. At the time I remember thinking how would it all work. As Fed Up said, I haven’t met anyone that has had to deal with the way the unemployed are handled with this horrible situation.

  6. That is an excellent piece GD, and brings back memories of my own experience as a CES officer in a Jobcentre. We had so much to deal with, but everyone I worked with was dedicated, hardworking, practical and service-orientated.

  7. I know how freaking useless the current job services providers are, plus people can’t get past the blasted recruitment agencies to see an employer. One slight gap in your CV or gulp in the first interview and you are screened out. The last lot I did was for a federal Public Service temporary job. I passed everything and was put on the merit list. The number of jobs offered did not get quite down to me. (Everything included a role play of a meeting of a group of applicants to discuss a topic, to assess our communication and group skills.)

  8. That group role play is very common I found. You are given a topic and you discuss it, while three or four recruiters watch, writing things down about you.
    Advice, get your kid into drama lessons. As far as employment advancement is concerned, my two most successful kids were my two daughters. Both did ballet, one to a high level until 16, and the other switched to drama.

    Lessons? Expensive.
    Stagecraft, work ethic, performance, projecting a personality, just being able to stand as though you own the world instead of slumping in a heap? Priceless.

  9. Actually, my son who works in IT and sales did ballet as a primary school kid. It gave him great balance and seemed to fix his gangly legs. As the rare male, he got a few pas de deux roles in the end-of-year concerts. He said it made him in awe of what females could achieve.

  10. FMD!!!
    The Drum have even managed to turn Neville Wrans death into an opportunity to bash the ALP yet again with Julia Baird asking that perennial naysayer Rodney Cavalier about how Wran would view the current state of the ALP.
    I mentioned it here the other day that Cavalier never misses an opportunity to allow himself, either deliberately or not, to feed into the media groupthink of the ALP in crisis.
    And IMO Julia Baird should not be hosting now because of her relationship with the NSW premier.
    What will happen if an issue arises that requires criticism of her brother, will the panelists hold back as to not make Julia feel uncomfortable? Or will the Drum just steer clear of any discussion involving the NSW premier?
    Completely unacceptable!

  11. Back to the CES. So many people were helped by those Labour Market Programs and beauty was that they could be tailored to local needs. We had a pest control outfit open up in the northen suburbs of Adelaide, so we trained long term unemployed in pest control skills.

  12. Funny Puffy, my stepmother asked the other day if I would ever let my son do ballet if he wanted to. Of course I would, same as I’d let him play any sport he wants to within reason. My dad was aghast.
    Maybe the drama classes I did in year 10 were more beneficial than I thought.

  13. Cross posted from TPS.
    Jan..While one must fully agree with the debate within your articles, the point must be raised that the timing is all wrong…the “horse has bolted”…too late to close the barn door…likewise for Mr. Elder’s, Mr. Green’s and other worthy writers railings at journalistic ethics…..those who are partisan have no regrets and will not change, those who were “bought off” may have regrets, but will salve their conscience with some gadget or other..those who were fooled will never admit it and will go on fooling themselves till their stupidity is slap-stick-flung, pie like into their faces!

    What happened to get us all riled?….There was the Labor Govt’, led by a woman Prime Minister ( a fault in itself, evidently!) ticking along steadily with a AAA. credit rating…decent employment figures, damn decent social and infrustructure policies, small treasury debt…and a few , now settled, internal leadership squabbles…I think that covers it..what happened?

    Accusations..endless, unrelenting accusations against almost everything the govt’ had working policy toward resolution. Accusations against any minister that could be found, their sexual orientation, past suspicions, even before they entered office. against the speaker of The House, against the Prime Minister’s past relationships, against the Prime Minister’s person and her relationship with her partner, her parent, even her dress style, body shape and shoes!…an endless panoply of accusation and complaint to one end, one objective…: To undermine public confidence in both the Prime Minister and the democratically elected govt’ of the day.

    Murdoch even imported from America, his favoured provocateur to edit and ensure the result of the upcoming election would put in office, the most indolent opposition in Aust’ history..an opposition that spent the last three years not just being idle in their duty as an opposition, but deliberately avoiding ANY semblance of policy developement, ANY sort of legitimate debate of Govt’ policies, ANY appearence of polite proceedure that would reflect well on our democratic Parliament…in short..an absolute disgrace!

    And where were those “Upholders of the free, democratic process”?….The Forth Estate jury that dissects and delivers the “context”, the ” deconstructed analysis” of policy, of parties, of parliamentry proceedures?….where were they?….I’ll tell you where..in the pocket of the conservative conspiracy to destabilise and demoralise and destroy both the reputation and the actualisation of Parliament and Democratic Governance of our nation.

    Of those who were in the Murdoch camp, who, unlike their employer, were Australian citizens, the most abomnible moniker of traitors would be barely sufficient to name them….for in following the instructions of a foreign national, hell-bent on profiteering from the bringing down of the govt’, they have betrayed their duty toward their homeland…by accepting payment from a foreign national to assist that person or corporation to undermine the morale and the structure of good governance, even if they dissaproved of the political sway of that govt’, they colluded with, accepted payment from and delivered to ; a foreign national or corporation a service that deminished the capacity of their fellow citizens a degree of social and financial security of necessity to maintain stable democracy.

    Of those others in the MSM. who may first have seen opportunity, then kudos and finally reward to slight and slander the govt’ of the day , to assist in the weakening and destruction of the national economy, national infrastructure, indigenous equality, gender equality, communications technology, environmental and water systems and finally social cohesion to end up with such a divided community with hate as the main driving force of political policy in their choice of government….and it was all there for even the most obtuse to see and be warned….the title of fool is forever prefixed to their names.

    I have been mocked before for calling the behaviour of our “esteemed MSM.” traitorous..for the reason that ; in law, the term in this current situation cannot be legally applied. So sure…let the semantics prevail..let us not un-legally arraign such scum unfairly before the beak and scream obsenities at their pusilanimous perfidy..let us make debate on polite presumption for a future situation…but then again, as I stated in the opening of this piece..it is too late..; the “horse has bolted”…Murdoch et all Are profiteering, all the above structures ARE being dismantled…we HAVE been done over..” it is too late!” she cried….so let’s call the MSM. tune for what it is : We can call it ; foolishness..we can call it stupidity…we can call it blind hate….but even without the protective jargon of legal framework, without the sly sideways glances of the shamed, without the pathetic pleading of lame excuses, the miserable pettiness of personal vindictiveness, the endless worming and sliding-out of professional responsibility…..you look at the pitiable personalities of these people and you can damn well only call it one thing…: TREASON !

  14. I’ve known this young man since he was just a couple of weeks old. He started his studies at a Melbourne suburban ballet school, was accepted into the Royal Ballet School, and in 2012 became a member of the corps de ballet of American Ballet Theatre.

    From almost the moment he was on his feet he was always dancing. A gorgeous boy.

  15. I am still curious as to what, given the opportunity, one would cry out to a media scrum facing someone like the Mr Abbott or Mr Andrews or Mr Pyne.
    Do you think it would actually make the news broadcast? Would it make a difference (as in ‘the emperor really is naked’ kind of thing)?
    Or would it merely make one feel better for having fronted the offending media scrum and challenged them to better their game?

  16. Thanks for the kind comments and for Leroy and Fiona for tweeting the link.

    Fed up, I agree that the time is long due for a serious evaluation, and I was disappointed that Labor didn’t implement one during their time in government. The CES was so totally destroyed that I don’t think it can be re-introduced. Although interestingly some of DEETYA’s senior executives, including former Carlton star David McKay, were seconded to liberated Russia for a time in the early 90s to implement a similar national labor market network there.

    The problem is the ingrained attitude allowed to develop to public servants and bureaucracies. We need more public figures like Elizabeth Warren to be heard so that people could consider it rationally. As it is, I doubt if there is the political will needed to change things. Everybody would like to have the services but nobody wants to pay the taxes necessary.

    Certainly the replacement model does not appear adequate, albeit there might have been some improvements since I was last involved. It just may be possible to develop a community-type model, but there needs to be some accountability of such NGO/community groups which can fall into the hands of empire builders. Maybe if there was a way of involving the universities, colleges and TAFES in research, something useful could be done.

  17. http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2014/03/20/the-real-problem-in-italian-democracy-is-not-the-electoral-system-but-silvio-berlusconis-continued-grip-over-the-countrys-media/

    http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21601004-why-europes-populists-and-radicals-admire-vladimir-putin-russias-friends-black

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-21/two-man-race-for-egyptian-presidency/5401398

  18. GD
    I still have doubts as to Palmer’s independence. With the evidence proving DA not to be a viable solution (anyway CC is not happening according to TA) blocking it in the Senate could be what the Govt want.

  19. msadventure, I was just about to post the thought that Abbott intends to see Direct Action blocked, leaving Australia without a climate change policy.
    Repealing the carbon price will pass, Palmer will ensure it.

  20. http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bill-shortens-sweeping-labor-reform-plan-to-reduce-union-influence-20140421-zqxch.html

    http://www.propublica.org/article/weibo-ipo-reveals-a-company-struggling-with-censorship

    http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/allinthemind/the-brainstorm-that-changes-teenagers-into-adults/5394408

  21. Ah, Leone – thanks for doing that. I was about to link it, referring back to Ross Leigh’s companion piece here:
    http://theaimn.com/2014/04/21/19611/

    Meanwhile, have a look at the Minister for Grecian 2000’s “connections”:

    http://tasmaniantimes.com/images/uploads/Andrews.pdf

    Somewhere in the miasma known as moi’s memory, I have a feeling that soon to be sainted Kevin Andrews (and his “better” half) was far more prominent in either or both of the Australian Family Association and the Family Council of Victoria …. can anyone help?

  22. Q&A
    Monday 21st April at 9:34 pm (59 minutes)

    Channel: ABC1

    Tony Jones is joined by former Foreign Minister Bob Carr; former NSW Opposition leader Kerry Chikarovski; author and social analyst Eva Cox; Spiked Online editor Brendan O’Neill; British violinist Nigel Kennedy.

    Not in a month of Sundays would I watch or listen to that collection.

  23. I have had a bit of experience with the way employment services operate.

    First – my daughter needed the ‘help’ of one of these and was sent by Centrelink to Wesley Employment Services. They took her details and told her they would be in touch. That was in 2000, she’s still waiting. At the same time the same mob were taking full page ads in every edition of the local paper – three times a week – boasting about their successes and lying about how they operated. Everyone gets their own personal adviser, they said, we work with you to find employment, they said. Lie after lie, because they did nothing for anyone. My daughter found herself work all by herself, in just a week or so and has never needed the ‘services’ of one of these organisations again.

    Second- I had dealings with a bunch of sharks who were running an allegedly not-for-profit organisation that took over a smaller employment and training organisation in northern NSW. All they were interested in was dragging money out for their own enrichment. They lost their federal jobs provider status about 6 years ago and I’m happy to say I played a small part in that.

    Then there’s the Therese Rein example. Ms Rein found a niche and exploited government funding to make herself a multi-millionaire. she got her big break when she obtained a Queensland government contract or three. I’ve seen how her original company, Work Directions exploited the system.

    I’d love to see all these blood-suckers dismissed and the money they rort used instead to restore the CES. It worked. The current system costs several mints and achieves little except the enrichment of those running jobs services.

  24. One of those sharks had my son on their books. He never got one call from them or an appointment he did not make himself. Off his own bat he found a job. They wanted the employer’s details so they could claim the statistic (and dollars I assume). Son told them where to go.

  25. Puffy,
    Good on your son. Unfortunately, I’m cynical enough to entertain the thought that the job shark might have phoned around the likely employers to discover where your son was working, so they could put in the claim.

    Accountability? Nah, just another bit of flamin’ red tape.

  26. Yes, that was another thing about the Job Network, Leone. A chap I met in the taxi industry was onto them. Got the same treatment your daughter got, but it only took him a couple of months to get the job he wanted by himself.

    He reported getting a job to Centrelink who sent him on to notify his Job Network agency. He did, but when they tried to get the name of the employer from him he refused to tell them anything despite threats. He told them straight out that they wanted to claim credit for placing him when they had played no role whatsoever.

    He was right, of course. They’d have claimed a commission for his placement. I bet there’s a lot of jobseekers in the same position who do give them the employer’s name without thinking about it and the agencies then put it in as a placement with a fee credit.

    Essentially, they’re the rent-seeker class, creaming off money aimed at supporting people into work. They’re smaller beer than Macquarie Bank and other dealmakers in the private-public partnerships that occur. But it’s the same principle, and that’s the problem of privatisation.

    There’s not enough money already for services and infrastructure without allowing the spivs to cream off more.

  27. Gorgeous Dunny,
    I think we need some redefinition.

    They are not rent seekers.

    They are vultures (with every apology to real vultures who perform an important environmental service).

  28. Then

    and now

    Seriously, who is this man trying to fool?

    (Moi’s suspicion: himself. Or, just possibly, Mrs Andrews – but then, she’s a dutiful wife …)

  29. Ducky,
    My favourite sonnet is CXVI.

    It cannot in any way apply to the Andrews’ marriage. They are not true; they are petty.

  30. I think the contrast between the two Margies is interesting. One is a militant sister of the True Church, the other is trying ever so quietly to make a life of her own.

  31. Ducky,
    Oh wow! That could upset a couple of applecarts / put the cat among the pigeons … etc etc etc.

    I wish CTar would assume the role of roving reporter, but he probably can’t.

  32. On The Guardian Australia front page

    “Television 5hr 25min ago
    Asher Keddie marries in secret ceremony in Fiji, says report
    21 Apr 2014: Star of Australian TV’s Offspring weds artist Vincent Fantauzzo in ceremony on Turtle island
    3 comments”

    Three comments in 5 1/2 hours each one being WTE “we don’t care”. That’s class.

    Not that I had any idea that Ms Keddie existed.

  33. Ducky,
    Asher Keddie played Ita Buttrose in that or those recent series. According to rumour, she was pretty good – especially regarding the voice.

    I am basketing now, dunno why I’m so tired. Gnight, all.

  34. ‘Night.

    Mr Elder does not appear to think much of Mr Baird and even less of Mr Greiner.

  35. Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
    NSW cabinet reshuffle. The moderate A-G gets the flick apparently because he wasn’t behind the “fire and brimstone” approach to law and order.
    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/ministers-axed-in-nsw-shakeup-20140421-370pl.html
    So let’s see where Baird stands on the issue.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/baird-must-revisit-mandatory-sentencing-laws-20140421-zqxbf.html
    And it would have nothing to do with the likes of Westfield, would it!
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/20-movie-tickets-the-price-of-australian-wages-says-village-roadshow-20140421-370ex.html
    Peter Martin on Abbott’s already broken promises.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/abbotts-biggest-broken-promise–to-build-our-cities-well-20140421-zqx73.html
    Despite Morriscum’s efforts it’s all starting to come out.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/reza-barati-death-papua-new-guinea-nationals-attacked-asylum-seekers-on-manus-island-20140421-zqxai.html
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/nauru-breaching-international-law-says-un-20140421-zqxe8.html
    Good luck Bill!
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bill-shortens-sweeping-labor-reform-plan-to-reduce-union-influence-20140421-zqxch.html
    Any hint of scientific rigour and you’re GONE!
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/21/environmental-warning-budget-cut-water-commission
    Abbott’s Australia will be held up to international ridicule if we end up with no effective carbon reduction process.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/clive-palmer-says-hopeless-direct-action-plan-dead-without-pup-support-20140421-zqxee.html
    David Pope with a good effort on Baby Price George’s visit.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/opinion/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0.html
    Alan Moir tries to understand where Putin’s coming from.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/alan-moir-20090907-fdxk.html
    Simon Letch on dogs and fleas and Grange.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/simon-letch-20090908-ffni.html
    David Rowe – just look at it!
    http://www.afr.com/p/national/cartoon_gallery_david_rowe_1g8WHy9urgOIQrWQ0IrkdO

  36. And IMO Julia Baird should not be hosting now because of her relationship with the NSW premier.

    I agree with you, toddraff. Too bad if Mike’s position means she should lose her job as Host for The Drum. Anyway, in this present climate, many other avenues will open up for her.

  37. gigi

    ‘The Drum’

    Does anyone actually watch it.

    I bet the ratings are low. A late afternoon space filler.

  38. Pru Goward gets planning – how naice. The developers must be having champagne for breakfast this morning. She should have been booted from the ministry for sheer incompetemce and Robyn Parker should have gone with her. Ms Parker was the daftest of Fatty O’Barrell’s appointments, an absolute catastrophe as environment minister.

    AS for the AG – you kick out someone intelligent, a former public prosecutor former deputy director of public prosecutions, an SC who knows what he is talking about when it comed to mandatory sentencing and Laura Norder and in his place you appoint someone who used to be a suburban lawyer from – of course – Sydney’s northern beaches.

    I knew Baird would be a disaster, the only question now is how big. .

  39. There goes Medicare

    The ABC has learned a number of Medicare Local chief executives have been told the Federal Government plans to shut down the current system.

    Speculation has been mounting that the local health bodies, which were set up under the Rudd government to organise community-specific health programs, will be scrapped in next month’s budget.

    Late last week chief executives of the 61 community-based health organisations held a series of a conference calls to discuss the Government’s plans for the scheme.

    Some of the Government’s proposals for 2014-15 under serious consideration include:

    ending funding to Medicare Locals
    establishing larger statutory agencies to funnel state and federal funding
    heavier involvement of private health insurers
    more focus on GP involvement
    putting services out to public tender
    abolishing the peak body Australian Medicare Local Alliance

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-22/medicare-locals-like-to-face-the-axe-in-budget/5402414

  40. How much is it going to collect that $6, Is it only going to be from doctors that bulk bill, or across he board. What, $750000 million over four years. Will it apply to specialist where we already paid through the nose for,. One is lucky to get away with less than $100 per visit.

    Medicare Locals are going as well. On top of this, we are looking at the privatisation of hospitals.

    Why, when we have one of the most efficient health systems in the world. We spend much less than most other countries.

    Can only be ideology.

    The results of Howard’s user pay policies was a massive increase in private debt. Are we going back to those days.

    We also had Hunt on, and his lies. Yes, claiming that Labor’s plan was to increase power prices. Not true, Plan was to see fossil fuel replace with renewals, eventually bringing down the price of power.

    I agree with Palmer, the DA should not go ahead, as it will be a complete waste of time and money. Hunt seems to be competent it will go ahead. Abbott would like to see it ditched, but needs to be seen doing something when he has to face international bodies dealing with climate change,, later in the year.

    This will be one of the meanest, and most stupidest budget we have ever seen. Cannot see that AAA ratings surviving.

    This government is depressing indeed.

  41. In relation to Medicare Locals, “nothing has been decided yet”. That’s what a spokesperson for Dutton said this morning. We’ll see.

  42. … from – of course – Sydney’s northern beaches.

    The entire Liberal hierarchy at the state and federal levels is starting to concentrate around Sydney’s north. And yes, the new Premier (while not a Catholic) went to a GPS school, the pretentiously titled “King’s School” at Parramatta,

    “Kings” (or “School” as the inmates call it) is regarded as the elite of the elite: parkland grounds covering many acres, wooded copses for quiet contemplation, world class facilities more suited to a university etc. etc. right on the high hill overlooking Parramatta.

    With a Liberal pedigree (his father is Bruce Baird, a prominent Liberal politician in NSW) and a stint at Sydney University (where Baird was “a prominent member of the Sydney University Evangelical Union”) he then went onto the National Bank. After a couple of tries, he was elected to the NSW parliament in 2007.

    In other words, a glittering rise to prominence and a typical Liberal Party pathway. A North Shore electorate and the cycle is completed.

    However, no matter how hard they try to dress him up, Baird is no Barry O’Farrell. As Andrew Elder points out, no-one will be fooled by the hype around selling off public assets. Any price reductions in electricity as a result of a Carbon Tax repeal will be gobbled up by the simple process of cancelling discounts already in place (my own discount has been reduced by exactly 10% – I assume it’s not co-incidental that this is the exact amount of the Carbon Tax reduction expected to come… end result: NO price change in dollars shelled out for electricity supply for this household).

    They’ve put a banker in charge of NSW. Just the “type” we need here with their slavish devotion to The Bottom Line. While all this slashing and burning goes on, “women of calibre” will be paid obscene rates for producing more King’s School and Riverview sons to replenish the supply of good Liberal types wherever they are needed.

    The only cloud on the horizon is Nick Di Giralomo. I’m sure he has more secrets and “Thenk You” notes squirreled away, ready for production at the appropriate moment or, more ominously, kept hidden in return for favours bestowed.

  43. Every QT time, Dutton has got up, attacked the previous health minister for not delivering on Medicare Locals. Never raised any concerns about anything regarding health for the six years he was shadow minister. His main aim now seems to be how hard he can put the boot into the shadow PM. Seems to have a special hate for Tanya.

  44. BB , taught for a few years at ‘school’ in the mid 80’s and couldn’t get out fast enough.It cured me of private schools and happily led me to my current public school. The Sydney Uni Evangelical Union used to go around putting stencilled ‘EU’ on footpaths etc. We used to add NUCH to their efforts just to help them.
    While at ‘Kings’ I could never get any staff etc to talk about Alan Jones for some reason.

  45. Okay, just sat through Clive and Hunt on 774, and I have come to the conclusion that Labor should just block the budget. What have they got to lose? Media are against them so they can’t get any more rabid. It would shock the s..t out of everyone, knock a bit of the arrogance out of Blood Oaf and the Oafs, and really stir things up.

    I say to Labor, do it.

  46. We don’t block Budgets.

    Tempting, I know, but they’d only do it more and harsher against us later on. And the media would cheer them on, as opposed to booing from the sidelines, as they would if Labor tried it.

  47. CTar.

    Did you do the proper run up? Or just stand there?

    Turned around three times, then curled up with moi’s tail tucked neatly over moi’s front paws.

  48. Dutton, I think, hates Tanya Plibersek and Catherine King because he is terrified by women who are all the things he has never been – powerful, articulate and intelligent. He must have been a real bully when he was a copper. He attacks and tries to bully Tanya Plibersek and other Labor women because it’s all he knows and he can’t even do that well. There’s no cutting wit that would grab attention, there’s just droning, endless repetition of the same stale nothingness. No wonder he wasn’t allowed to open his mouth in QT for six years, Labor would have eaten him alive if he had tried to say a word. Now he has Madam Kero to protect him so he’s allowed to drone as much as he likes. It hasn’t occurred to the poor sod that he is simply hiding behind another (much as it pains me to say it) intelligent, articulate, powerful woman.

    This fool was once touted as a ‘rising star’, a potential leader. In case you’ve forgotten just how close we came to having Peter Dutton as second-in-command –
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/nothing-plodding-about-the-man-who-may-be-deputy-20091129-jyvs.html
    and
    http://www.news.com.au/national/joe-hockey-in-leadership-talks-with-possible-deputy-peter-dutton/story-e6frfkvr-1225805098354

  49. Dutton gives the same performance, word for word every QT. All that is changed, is the electorate, and the local member asking the question. . Does not stray from the script. Generally toward the end of QT. The man is lazy. I felt from listening to the senate hearings, his department sees very little of him. The w=ere still working from the EFO papers.

    The man is simply a bore. How can a six dollar co-payment, that is capped at seventy two dollars a year, bring in much money. We are already paying such money, every time we are unlucky to attend a specialist. Finding up to three hundred dollars a visit is hard for most at the bottom of the pile,

    If more money is needed, just increase the levy. Not rocket science, Take away the rebates given to high income earners for private medical insurance.

  50. Labor may not block supply, but I hope that this time round it argues every jot and tittle, niggling away at every mean and spiteful decision so that the MSM has to finally take notice just how pathetic this government is.

    I can hope, can’t I?

  51. One cannot and should not block a budget. We do not want to go back to the days of Whitlam. We want the budget pulled to pieces, Abbott forced to defend every line of it.

    Why does Hunt sound so competent today?

    Hunt back on mandates. It is a shame he does not take some time out to read the Constitution.

    Whether he does or not, will be decided on the floor of both houses. That is the only way legislation is implemented under our democracy.

    Will be interesting to hear what Shorten has to say today. I hope he does not let us down.

  52. Well, maybe Labor should start thinking outside the square. They can justify it by sticking up for the many people that are going to be savagely hurt by this mob. Frazer did it. Pity he didn’t make good use of it. Labor have the talent, intellect and policies to get back to making Australia one of the most envied countrys in the world again. Gonski, Disability Care, Broadband, Carbon Price………all the things most Aussies wanted, were promised by this lot and aren’t getting.

  53. This lot didn’t promise the NDIS, Gonski, the NBN or any of that. They promised to take things away but people were not paying attention.

    The people who voted for Labor aren’t going to change their vote next time; it’s the idiots who swung to the Coalition who need to be targeted. Why would you want to stick up for them? The fools have what they wanted; they can bloody well cop it now.

    If I was a Labor MP I’d be severely tempted to get my face on TV at every opportunity and say ‘this is what you voted for, suck it up.’ Then I’d launch into a spiel about what Australians would have had if they had not elected the Abbott government – Medicare, GP locals, the NBN, the NDIS, Gonski and all the rest of the stuff Rudd refused to talk about during his abysmal farce of an election campaign. I’d finish by saying ‘if you want this back then you need to vote this lot out’. Over and over and over.

    The more Abbott cuts and lies the more I’d rub it in. Make people feel real fools for voting for this miserable lot. If we think things are bad now they will be 100 times worse in twelve months. By the time the next election is due things will be dire, all those industries Abbott has knifed will finally have closed, the industries and small businesses that relied on them will be dead and gone and hundreds of thousands will be unable to find new jobs. Abbott and his ministers will, if they can be believed, be promising even worse to come. There’s a growing list of nasties they say will be taken to the next election for a ‘mandate’. Top of the list are cuts to health and education – on top of the cuts that will be in this year’s budget and the two that will follow it. Stick up for the idiots who voted to inflict all this on us? Not on your life.

    The more salt rubbed into wounds the better. Make the fools actually think – a new experience for far too many Australians – make them realise what they have done to themselves. Make them angry at themselves and this lousy government, make them determined to never make that mistake again. Make Labor voters angry with those who betrayed them. We need to stop lying around in the sun drinking beer, watching the cricket and chattering about which nasty judge on The Block should get the boot. We need to stop the lotus eating and get angry.

  54. gigilene
    Yep. The apathetic, disengaged voters in this country need to wake up to what they have done to themselves. Maybe they need a bit of roaring at, or a bit of arse kicking.

  55. GD – On the CES.

    I was an employee of a C’wlth GBE and watched as Howard/Hockey destroyed a very profitable Employment National.

    Idealistic madness.

  56. A new headache for Scrot Moribund – will the Nauru detention centre have to be abandoned? Manus Island also has the same problem.

    Unexploded wartime bomb found in Nauru detention centre

    An unexploded bomb has been found in the offshore processing centre on Nauru that detains children, pregnant women and families, raising serious questions about whether the site is safe to hold asylum seekers

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/22/unexploded-wartime-bomb-found-in-nauru-detention-centre

  57. That’s right, CTar. I didn’t cover it in that story, but there were a lot that took up Employment National, encouraged by the government promise that tenders for job brokerage would be based on merit, that felt seriously betrayed and sold out by the process. I only had knowledge of a handful of them, but in those cases they easily met and exceeded the nominal achievement targets, which were supposed to be the basis for job brokerage selection.

    Shineybum did mention once that on his inside knowledge the process had integrity. But only if it was written into the instructions that Employment National were to be excluded. It was ideological madness as you say. I’d blamed it on Kemp, who was certainly committed to that, but your comment would suggest Hockey and Howard were also driving it, which does not augur well for the coming budget.

    There is a peculiar epilogue. When Kemp was put back in control, the successful tenderers became a dog’s breakfast of spivs and chancers who went so badly that it threatened the Howard government’s survival on its own. Howard then put Abbott of all people in charge to sort it out. And would you believe that Abbott managed to neutralise it as an issue?

    What Abbott did was to basically squeeze out the commercial operators and give most of the tenders to community and church/nonprofit groups. Most of these had some commitment to caring (albeit not as much as getting the incentives), which made them more acceptable. I wouldn’t have credited Abbott with that much nous, but it was probably consistent with his Santamaria-type ideas.

  58. GD – It was strange.

    Employment National payed a huge dividend in it’s first year.

    ‘Liberals’ that can’t smell money.

    FMD

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